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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27202796 - 02/13/21 01:44 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

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Are these Panaeolus cinctulus El?
They look very chode like. Short and stout. Thick stipe and small pileus.
I don't think I have ever seen images of Panaeolus cinctulus with such thick stipes..




Yes Roger, it might be surprising to learn if you haven't seen many mushrooms in real life but when they are small they often have a thicker, shorter looking stipe.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27202800 - 02/13/21 01:48 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

By that same logic though. Psilocybe weraroa would go back to being in another genus despite the fact that genetically there is less difference between it and cyanescens as there is within many species.

As the revered taxonomist Dr Dre said 'morphology aint shit but shapes and tricks'


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #27202825 - 02/13/21 02:15 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

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NZelle said:
Yes Roger, it might be surprising to learn if you haven't seen many mushrooms in real life but when they are small they often have a thicker, shorter looking stipe.



But I see plenty of mushrooms in real life... subs and secos that is...
:lol:
I never seen a Panaeolus cinctulus in real life, I only seen em in pix so excuse a niggas ignorance.
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Mycoangulo said:
By that same logic though. Psilocybe weraroa would go back to being in another genus despite the fact that genetically there is less difference between it and cyanescens as there is within many species.

As the revered taxonomist Dr Dre said 'morphology aint shit but shapes and tricks'



Fair point, but keeping Panaeolus and Panaeolopsis as separate genera just makes shit more simple.

Panaeolopsis is a good description for the sectoid species of Panaeolous IMO...
I would think that Panaeolopsis deserves a genus of its own.
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Shroomhunts said:
Currently under debate there is very little research into them.



:whathesaid:
More research has to be done before we can officially discontinue the Panaeolopsis genus.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27202860 - 02/13/21 02:50 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

'Fair point, but keeping Panaeolus and Panaeolopsis as separate genera just makes shit more simple.

Panaeolopsis is a good description for the sectoid species of Panaeolous IMO...
I would think that Panaeolopsis deserves a genus of its own.'

If the same was applied to genus psilocybe where would you draw the line?


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #27202892 - 02/13/21 03:25 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

I'm merely suggesting Panaeolopsis deserves its own genus.
I would not discontinue Panaeolopsis just yet.

The caps of Panaeolopsis don't look at all like the caps of Panaeolus.

To keep them in separate genera just makes sense to me is all I'm saying. But this is not up to me to determine. I'm just making a statement.

Ultimately, more research about different Panaeolopsis species should be done before making the brisk comparison to Panaeolus.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #27202908 - 02/13/21 03:53 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)



People tend to post the idealised photos when in reality the range is much greater, and I propose that Panaeolopsis and Panaeolus are not likely to be morphologically as clearly separate as might be indicated by the photos that are shared.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #27202973 - 02/13/21 05:35 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

:mmmkay:
Quote:

Mycoangulo said:




Is this Panaeolopsis nirimbii?


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard] * 1
    #27204167 - 02/13/21 07:36 PM (6 months, 29 days ago)

I think the idea is that it is some sort of mutation, but personally I do think they are a separate species. A large scale DNA sequencing and microscopy study of lawn pans would yeild the information we need to say for sure

Maybe we could get a worldwide wild panaelous thread going. They are the most widespread and common psychedelic after all.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Shroomhunts] * 1
    #27204229 - 02/13/21 08:00 PM (6 months, 29 days ago)

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Shroomhunts said:
I think the idea is that it is some sort of mutation, but personally I do think they are a separate species. A large scale DNA sequencing and microscopy study of lawn pans would yeild the information we need to say for sure

Maybe we could get a worldwide wild panaelous thread going. They are the most widespread and common psychedelic after all.



"OFFICIAL WORLDWIDE PSILOCYBIN PANAEOLUS AND PANAEOLOSPIS SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)"

You should start the thread Shroomhunts, just post a pix of a 2021 pan and call it official.
I would be keen to see it happen/engage in some discussion about worldwide pans.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: RogerTheRetard] * 1
    #27204250 - 02/13/21 08:07 PM (6 months, 29 days ago)

.... :lolsy:

Can we see some pictures of this years seasonal fruits please. Enough of this jibber jabber. Go make another thread for this rambling instead.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Blazer420]
    #27206403 - 02/14/21 11:50 PM (6 months, 28 days ago)



January 2021 G. purpuratus




February 2021 G. purpuratus
dried up on rotting log.

To much jibber from some but half of it's educational, Mycoangulos are Panaeolopsis sp. from 2021, my cincts are 2021. Like the idea of an international pan thread.


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: NZelle]
    #27206472 - 02/15/21 12:51 AM (6 months, 28 days ago)

Those Gymnopilus purpuratus look really beautiful when fresh. I like that first picture heaps they look so cool.
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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Blazer420] * 1
    #27208678 - 02/16/21 03:18 AM (6 months, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Blazer420 said:
.... :lolsy:

Can we see some pictures of this years seasonal fruits please. Enough of this jibber jabber. Go make another thread for this rambling instead.



:whathesaid:

Too many people sounding clever with big words. . .

Back to munter trippers please. . .

I still reckon fung are showing us that genetivs is much more than vertical inheritence. . .


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Bobbit]
    #27219071 - 02/21/21 09:23 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

looking forward to autumn :discorex:


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: wabbey] * 3
    #27249912 - 03/12/21 03:47 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Happy 2021 to everyone. The early bird gets the worm...I think these guys might not get much bigger but happy that a patch has allready popped, get out there guys and good luck and happy hunting everyone :smile:


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: SteveSkuxx]
    #27249971 - 03/12/21 04:26 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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SteveSkuxx said:
Happy 2021 to everyone. The early bird gets the worm...I think these guys might not get much bigger but happy that a patch has allready popped, get out there guys and good luck and happy hunting everyone :smile:




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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: SteveSkuxx]
    #27250064 - 03/12/21 05:26 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Brilliant find. They look eager enough, let them sit a few days. :thumbup:


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27251411 - 03/13/21 03:41 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Still a bit dry and warm in Auckland but the anticipation is building :crazy2:


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: StartingOver]
    #27252100 - 03/14/21 07:42 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Anyone from southern parts of NZ had any luck finding anything so far? I haven't yet but also hasn't been raining too much... Anyway wishing everyone good luck with their hunting!! Lets hope 2021 treats us all well :sunny:


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Re: "OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN SEASON 2021 (NO ID REQUESTS)" [Re: CosmicKiwi]
    #27252284 - 03/14/21 11:44 AM (6 months, 21 hours ago)

I think SteveSkuxx's find might be from the South Island but I'm not sure, he does not specify.

I just checked a 2019/2020 Psilocybe subsecotioides spot of mine in the dead of the night for fruits for the lolz/piece of mind but there was nothing growing at all, as expected.

Will try again in April personally after it starts raining more.
But I would expect Christchurch and other South Island locations to have begun producing already.


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