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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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In theory you don't need to privatise healthcare to make it run smoothly and quickly, insurance companies drive prices up and refuse doctors treatment opinions regularly, why does it matter if the government pays or the patient/insurance?

In practice, in Canada, the provinces are supposed to funs healthcare and they are constantly underfunding it in an attempt to make privatisation seem more desirable

Its simple greed and corruption, not a trait of public funding at the essence

I absolutely hate who gets a elected, I'd like someone like newyorks mayor to get elected, actually Toronto's mayor is pretty cool, Olivia chow, but I want to see someone at provincial or federal level who is cool, ive literally never seen that in my life


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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AlChemicalResearch said:
https://fixvx.com/electionwiz/status/2098030284075647076?s=46 so this is where trump got the idea to pay voters

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FLASHBACK: Tim Walz promised to return HALF of Minnesota’s budget surplus if voters re-elected him, saying he could do it in a “15-minute” special session.

He promised $1k per person, $2k per family.

Democrats took control, but the checks never came.





big difference between "if I win XYZ will happen" vs "if REPUBLICANS win, XYZ will happen"

and that difference is criminal.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gopher]
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gopher said:
In theory you don't need to privatise healthcare to make it run smoothly and quickly, insurance companies drive prices up and refuse doctors treatment opinions regularly, why does it matter if the government pays or the patient/insurance?

In practice, in Canada, the provinces are supposed to funs healthcare and they are constantly underfunding it in an attempt to make privatisation seem more desirable

Its simple greed and corruption, not a trait of public funding at the essence

I absolutely hate who gets a elected, I'd like someone like newyorks mayor to get elected, actually Toronto's mayor is pretty cool, Olivia chow, but I want to see someone at provincial or federal level who is cool, ive literally never seen that in my life




I agree with you 100%. The US healthcare system is inherently flawed because of insurance companies. The number of doctors hasn't increased that much, but the amount of insurance company employees has skyrocketed. But it is super hard to become a doctor, its hard to fill that void. I don't know what it's like in Canada, but I have a feeling its similar. In the USA they're dropping standards in many medical schools to push doctors through. And you can't necessarily force doctors to work because it's someone's "human right" to have healthcare by law. Cause plain and simple, healthcare isn't a human right. The fundamental concept of human rights derive from the condition we are born into. If you sit on a tack you bleed from your ass. It's not your right to compel someone to spend 30 years of their life becoming competent as a physician to than give you medical care. Forcing a doctor to practice isn't ethical. That's why they get paid what they get paid. If they made what say public school teachers made, almost no one would become a doctor. We're lucky that most doctors are selfless and would willingly work overtime.

Greed and corruption IS a trait of public funding at the essence. How can you say its not when we encounter government corruption anywhere we look? I don't know that much about Canadian politics, but we see it in the USA basically every day.

A cursory google search indicates that almost half of Canada would/do travel to the USA for regular healthcare visits and almost 40% would for emergency care.

https://www.cma.ca/healthcare-for-real/how-many-canadians-go-us-health-care

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While it’s not known exactly how many Canadians go to the U.S. for health care, according to a poll conducted by Ipsos in March 2024, 42% of Canadians would go to the U.S. and personally pay for routine health care if needed. That’s 10% more when compared to January 2023. Of those who responded, 38% said that they would travel to the U.S. for emergency care, a number that's up 9% from the previous year.
Why might Canadians go to the U.S. for health care?

There are a few reasons that Canadians might visit the U.S. for health care.

    Quicker access to medical services
    Accessing care not available in Canada
    Low satisfaction with our health system
    Recommendations from friends and family with prior experience
    The opportunity to combine medical care with a vacation




So look, universal healthcare isn't the panacea that it's made out to be. But it sounds like a combination of public and private healthcare is a direction towards the solution we need.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
https://fixvx.com/electionwiz/status/2098030284075647076?s=46 so this is where trump got the idea to pay voters

Quote:
FLASHBACK: Tim Walz promised to return HALF of Minnesota’s budget surplus if voters re-elected him, saying he could do it in a “15-minute” special session.

He promised $1k per person, $2k per family.

Democrats took control, but the checks never came.





big difference between "if I win XYZ will happen" vs "if REPUBLICANS win, XYZ will happen"

and that difference is criminal.




No both are illegal. You're not allowed to sell votes, in any election.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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rofl, jonathan pie on form again


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Holybullshit]
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Holybullshit said:
Imagine how dumb you'd have to be to believe that. Yet those who do are the same people who love to remind others that universal healthcare isn't free and that we can't afford social safety nets due to the deficit and debt(largely resulting from military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy).



I think hes good for it:carlton:

$5000!!:fuckyeah:

And no matter how much you bitch, whine, and talk shit, hes still your president:teabird:


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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lol, give it another 12 months and the african villagers that asante has been helping are going to tell him they are holding a benefits concert for the amercian working class :grin:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Holybullshit said:
Imagine how dumb you'd have to be to believe that. Yet those who do are the same people who love to remind others that universal healthcare isn't free and that we can't afford social safety nets due to the deficit and debt(largely resulting from military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy).



I think hes good for it:carlton:

$5000!!:fuckyeah:

And no matter how much you bitch, whine, and talk shit, hes still your president:teabird:



Yea I forgot to also mention, the military budget is only 13% of the budget. Social programs are closer to 60%. We literally spend more on social programs than the military. How is the military the thing bankrupting us?

What is fair is you saying you don't agree with what the military represents, which is fine, you're entitled to your opinion. However, it is a fact we spend almost six times as much on social programs in the USA than we do the military. The military isn't bankrupting us.

Edited by AlChemicalResearch (09/10/26 01:48 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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People that don't want 5k want universal health care while simultaneously wanting the ccouring of the Shire.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.

Edited by budmanman (09/10/26 01:52 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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I would argue we already have universal healthcare in the USA



You argued for something that isnt universal healthcare, so why call it universal healthcare?

Thats Orwellian language..


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: budmanman] * 1
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budmanman said:
People that don't want 5k want universal health care while simultaneously wanting the ccouring of the Shire.



to be fair, no one is getting 5000$

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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When it is given out make sure to give me yours.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: budmanman] * 1
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budmanman said:
When it is given out make sure to give me yours.



Fuck no, I'm keeping it. I'm just saying, Trump already owes me $5000 from the DOGE dividends, $2000 from the tariff rebate, and I think there was another $1000 check in there.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: pugster]
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pugster said:
lol, give it another 12 months and the african villagers that asante has been helping are going to tell him they are holding a benefits concert for the amercian working class :grin:



I really dont see that happenning:teabird:


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
theres always money for war but never money to help the poor.  we can't afford healthcare but we can afford another endless war, this time with iran, that is accomplishing nothing but killing people and affording the trump administration their weekly opportunities for market manipulation.


Here’s how much the Trump Kids have made because of the presidency

remember this shit when you're paying $4+ per gallon for gas for no good reason, when you're paying $9 per pound for ground beef that was $4 at the start of last year, when you pay your new higher electric/water bills, and when you pay tariffs on random shit because reality has hurt the president's feelings. 

rocketing prices on everything, crumbling infrastructure, and more republican forever wars.  they are getting FILTHY rich off FUCKING you and me while telling us that as a country, we don't have the money for the basics.  your healthcare disappears or increases in price while motherfuckers like mitch mcconnell dont come to work for 2+ months, yet retains his job and lifelong top notch healthcare that you pay for. 

but we don't have money for healthcare for you plebs.  but billionaires need a tax break and also give us more money for iran/israel and ICE.



Right.

Idk how anyone who doesn't have $10+ million in assets can vote Republican anymore... it's wild to me that Republicans have managed to turn transphobia into 2 terms of the sleeziest grift imagineable.

If Democrats stood for anything at all, this would have never happened.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
dinosaurs said:
theres always money for war but never money to help the poor.  we can't afford healthcare but we can afford another endless war, this time with iran, that is accomplishing nothing but killing people and affording the trump administration their weekly opportunities for market manipulation.


Here’s how much the Trump Kids have made because of the presidency

remember this shit when you're paying $4+ per gallon for gas for no good reason, when you're paying $9 per pound for ground beef that was $4 at the start of last year, when you pay your new higher electric/water bills, and when you pay tariffs on random shit because reality has hurt the president's feelings. 

rocketing prices on everything, crumbling infrastructure, and more republican forever wars.  they are getting FILTHY rich off FUCKING you and me while telling us that as a country, we don't have the money for the basics.  your healthcare disappears or increases in price while motherfuckers like mitch mcconnell dont come to work for 2+ months, yet retains his job and lifelong top notch healthcare that you pay for. 

but we don't have money for healthcare for you plebs.  but billionaires need a tax break and also give us more money for iran/israel and ICE.



Right.

Idk how anyone who doesn't have $10+ million in assets can vote Republican anymore... it's wild to me that Republicans have managed to turn transphobia into 2 terms of the sleeziest grift imagineable.

If Democrats stood for anything at all, this would have never happened.




Isn't it wild how much the Democrats fucked shit up by basically promoting a homofascist state? It's like they found the one thing that people hate more than being screwed over by rich people: being forced to watch dudes fuck in public and having their kids genitals potentially cut off and turned into the other gender.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 5
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You got forced to watch dudes fuck in public?

That’s wild man. How hard did you cum?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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AlChemicalResearch said:
christopera said:
His point was simple. Refusing to pay is not the same as universal healthcare.

At a minimum, it means healthcare is more expensive for those that pay. At a minimum, the for profit system is a total ripoff far worse than bloated government systems. It’s even that way here.




Like I said before, I'm not defending the current system, but like pre ww2, the tax rate on all citizens was 96%, but they baked in a bunch of loop holes to get the effective tax rate to under 20%. A system like that is the best. It seems corrupt, but it is designed to be like that. When I was a wildlands firefighter we literally had a training on what to do if we're hurt cause we didn't have healthcare. Pay 10$/month for 5 years, then call and get it forgiven.



What country do you live in? America never taxed every citizen 96%.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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AlChemicalResearch said:
Bigbadwooof said:
dinosaurs said:
theres always money for war but never money to help the poor.  we can't afford healthcare but we can afford another endless war, this time with iran, that is accomplishing nothing but killing people and affording the trump administration their weekly opportunities for market manipulation.


Here’s how much the Trump Kids have made because of the presidency

remember this shit when you're paying $4+ per gallon for gas for no good reason, when you're paying $9 per pound for ground beef that was $4 at the start of last year, when you pay your new higher electric/water bills, and when you pay tariffs on random shit because reality has hurt the president's feelings. 

rocketing prices on everything, crumbling infrastructure, and more republican forever wars.  they are getting FILTHY rich off FUCKING you and me while telling us that as a country, we don't have the money for the basics.  your healthcare disappears or increases in price while motherfuckers like mitch mcconnell dont come to work for 2+ months, yet retains his job and lifelong top notch healthcare that you pay for. 

but we don't have money for healthcare for you plebs.  but billionaires need a tax break and also give us more money for iran/israel and ICE.



Right.

Idk how anyone who doesn't have $10+ million in assets can vote Republican anymore... it's wild to me that Republicans have managed to turn transphobia into 2 terms of the sleeziest grift imagineable.

If Democrats stood for anything at all, this would have never happened.




Isn't it wild how much the Democrats fucked shit up by basically promoting a homofascist state? It's like they found the one thing that people hate more than being screwed over by rich people: being forced to watch dudes fuck in public and having their kids genitals potentially cut off and turned into the other gender.


Lmao! Homo fascist state 🤣


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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'potentially' cut off. as in it never happened.

and where in this country are we forced to watch dudes fuck in public? please enlighten us all as to where this gay orgy is taking place.

some of us would like to know :gaycrankey:

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