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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
50-50 he wins or loses. If he wins, 50-50 we become a dictatorship. If we don't, then it's just more clown show like the last time, but with extra clowns.

If he loses, he continues raging 24/7 and announces his run in 2028. But by then he's basically guaranteed to lose, after clearing the GOP field.


Become a dictatorship... What the fuck are you talking about dude? This is the kind of sensationalist nonsense I expect to hear from Morning Joe... Not you.

Calm down man.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
Kryptos said:
50-50 he wins or loses. If he wins, 50-50 we become a dictatorship. If we don't, then it's just more clown show like the last time, but with extra clowns.

If he loses, he continues raging 24/7 and announces his run in 2028. But by then he's basically guaranteed to lose, after clearing the GOP field.


Become a dictatorship... What the fuck are you talking about dude? This is the kind of sensationalist nonsense I expect to hear from Morning Joe... Not you.

Calm down man.


Have you.. not paid attention to.. anything? in the last five years?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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For anyone in America but trump you might have a point, but he's being rather open about what he intends to do.

You could give him the benefit of the doubt, but that's kinda the ethos of maga imo.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 1
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he never did lock her up:shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy]
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Round 2, fight!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
Kryptos said:
50-50 he wins or loses. If he wins, 50-50 we become a dictatorship. If we don't, then it's just more clown show like the last time, but with extra clowns.

If he loses, he continues raging 24/7 and announces his run in 2028. But by then he's basically guaranteed to lose, after clearing the GOP field.


Become a dictatorship... What the fuck are you talking about dude? This is the kind of sensationalist nonsense I expect to hear from Morning Joe... Not you.

Calm down man.


Fascists operate by the principle of Shroedinger's asshole. It's all a joke...until it isn't. This is why the ranks in the kkk are called wizards and dragons--it's to make them seem ridiculous, and therefore safe. It's why Hitler started his movement in beer halls, and continued his meetings in beer halls--to look like a bunch of weirdo drunks.

Then, suddenly, they drop the mask and start punching/gassing.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Lynnch] * 1
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Lynnch said:
Have you.. not paid attention to.. anything? in the last five years?


Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.  Anything that the US might be sliding towards cannot be attributed to him.


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Edited by Joh.Ke (12/10/23 06:13 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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Trump has absolutely been president in the last 4 years.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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Joh.Ke said:
Lynnch said:
Have you.. not paid attention to.. anything? in the last five years?


Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.  Anything that the US might be sliding towards cannot be attributed to him.


When he was potus he slid in his own direction alright, bidens tweaked the crumbs for a facade of appeal with intent to never rock the status quo boat, but he ain't looking to win right now imo. If the general were held right now, polls don't swing in his favour.

I think the question here is about where the US will slide if trump slides back into the drivers seat and he's pretty much yelling iceberg ahead.

Not to avoid the danger, but that he's gonna try to ram this boat through that pussy ass cube of ice. He wanna ream that iceberg alright, make it his bitch or something like that.

Look, trump has set out his platform intentions, and like in Argentina, there looks to be big change ahead if he gets in, but not in favour of anyone below the captains deck.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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Newsoms gonna show up last minute and be the Dem nom. And he might beat trump. Thats my uneducated opinion. 

If not him, someone will show up to the stage, last minute.

Is there anyone that is known enough to sweep in?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 2
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Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.  Anything that the US might be sliding towards cannot be attributed to him.


Even if I said 3 years, it is absolutely hilarious that people try to pretend that Trump doesn't have any influence on our current political situation. The entire republican party has shifted away from any kind of platform, into simply backing trump. The right-wing movement we see today is a result of the trump presidency.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yeatster]
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Pretty sure the DNC is closing off the primaries, but if anyone else was ran as the democratic nominee I think they'd have a better chance.

At this point Biden's being propped to run, he even said if trump wasn't running he wouldn't. And imo, at this point, without some drastic change or majorly positive policy, trump beats Biden hands down.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Trump has absolutely been president in the last 4 years.


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Edited by Joh.Ke (12/10/23 06:58 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said:
Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.  Anything that the US might be sliding towards cannot be attributed to him.


Even if I said 3 years, it is absolutely hilarious that people try to pretend that Trump doesn't have any influence on our current political situation. The entire republican party has shifted away from any kind of platform, into simply backing trump. The right-wing movement we see today is a result of the trump presidency.


You seem to say that Trump has managed to steer the country towards dictatorship for the past 4 years when the POTUS is clearly someone else.  You need to back that up.  It is totally reasonable of me to doubt you.  Yes Trump can have an influence, but I doubt he, not being POTUS, can contribute much to the country turning totalitarian.


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Edited by Joh.Ke (12/10/23 07:04 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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Are you trying to say trump didn't influence the Republican platform or discourse these last 3 years?

And I think it's when he's re-elected he'll turn the country that kind of way.

I mean the whole split in the republican side of the house is related to those supporting trump with election denial allegations and such, and those who think it won't muster strong support etc.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Are you trying to say trump didn't influence the Republican platform or discourse these last 3 years?

And I think it's when he's re-elected he'll turn the country that kind of way.


I am not saying he has zero influence.  Just that when that other guy said he made the country more totalitarian, he needs to prove that.  I think such a thing is more likely attributed to the incumbent president, who makes policies.

Why do you think Trump has managed to turn the country into a dictatorship?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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OK. I can step in on this one.
He tried a fake elector plot.
He literally stole mailboxes from black neighborhoods. To make it much harder, if not impossible for people to cast their vote in Democratic areas.
He incited an insurrection in our country against the peaceful transfer of power.
He withheld secret documents that weren’t found.
Probably selling those off to people.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

All of those things sound like something that would happen in Russia.
Because all of those things have happened in Russia.

He also tried to insight a lot of distrust in the healthcare system.
He waged a war against newscasters that had a different opinion than him.
He’s doing a lot of the totalitarian playbook actually.
I do not want to see his updated playbook.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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It's that he will turn it into such a country, and I think so because he said he will and he proposed policy to do it.

He kept the status quo of the republican party upright with tax cuts for the rich and deregulations etc. But if he's elected again, he said he'll do crazy shit with project 2025 etc.

Right now it's the same shit it's always been with a thin dressing of incrementalism to satiate the masses.

But people want more change, and frankly it doesn't seem like it matters in what direction that changes takes form.

Or atleast, a lot of voters probably don't go beyond the surface level of what they're being told by legacy media sources. The policy implications of trumps proposed platform won't help people outside of the upper echelons of society.

At least trump seems to recognise the craving for change, regardless of what outcomes it would have for those outside of his immediate circle if he were to be re-elected.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 2
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Joh.Ke said:
sudly said:
Are you trying to say trump didn't influence the Republican platform or discourse these last 3 years?

And I think it's when he's re-elected he'll turn the country that kind of way.


I am not saying he has zero influence.  Just that when that other guy said he made the country more totalitarian, he needs to prove that.  I think such a thing is more likely attributed to the incumbent president, who makes policies.

Why do you think Trump has managed to turn the country into a dictatorship?


Why do you think anyone should take you or your questions seriously when you can't even count?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yeatster]
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Yeatster said:
Newsoms gonna show up last minute and be the Dem nom. And he might beat trump. Thats my uneducated opinion. 

If not him, someone will show up to the stage, last minute.

Is there anyone that is known enough to sweep in?


If this does happen, it’ll be after the convention. Biden will be crowned the nominee, then step down due to health concerns or something, and they’ll choose Newsom.

Newsom sucks too, but they don’t really have anyone else. They tried to sell Buttigieg and Harris as the next generation of Democrats and everyone hates them. At least Newsom has the aura of being progressive.


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