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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Joh.Ke said:
sudly said:
Are you trying to say trump didn't influence the Republican platform or discourse these last 3 years?

And I think it's when he's re-elected he'll turn the country that kind of way.



I am not saying he has zero influence.  Just that when that other guy said he made the country more totalitarian, he needs to prove that.  I think such a thing is more likely attributed to the incumbent president, who makes policies.

Why do you think Trump has managed to turn the country into a dictatorship?



Why do you think anyone should take you or your questions seriously when you can't even count?



I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.

You seem triggered by my participating though.  I think I will avoid you from now on.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Pretty sure the DNC is closing off the primaries, but if anyone else was ran as the democratic nominee I think they'd have a better chance.

At this point Biden's being propped to run, he even said if trump wasn't running he wouldn't. And imo, at this point, without some drastic change or majorly positive policy, trump beats Biden hands down.



I don't think so. Biden is likely gonna beat Trump. He's got the name recognition. Democrats will hold their nose and vote blue this time, and Trump will make them turn out. Newsom doesn't quite have the name recognition yet to pull it off, but he's the likely democrat nominee going forward.

Unless someone pulls an Obama.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
OK. I can step in on this one.
He tried a fake elector plot.
He literally stole mailboxes from black neighborhoods. To make it much harder, if not impossible for people to cast their vote in Democratic



:liottalol:

Also, you're smart enough to know when a period and a comma is necessary?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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Joh.Ke said:
I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.




If you don't pay attention to these things then why comment on things you know nothing about?

For example...
Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kwyjibo]
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Kwyjibo said:
Joh.Ke said:
I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.




If you don't pay attention to these things then why comment on things you know nothing about?

For example...
Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.





I wouldn't say I know nothing.  I know something, but apparently to all you people, one needs to be an expert before one can comment on a political topic.

Maybe you should ask yourselves why you have so much ire against me.  All I want is to have a conversation.  But you are making it impossible.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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Joh.Ke said:
ballsalsa said:
Joh.Ke said:
sudly said:
Are you trying to say trump didn't influence the Republican platform or discourse these last 3 years?

And I think it's when he's re-elected he'll turn the country that kind of way.



I am not saying he has zero influence.  Just that when that other guy said he made the country more totalitarian, he needs to prove that.  I think such a thing is more likely attributed to the incumbent president, who makes policies.

Why do you think Trump has managed to turn the country into a dictatorship?



Why do you think anyone should take you or your questions seriously when you can't even count?



I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.

You seem triggered by my participating though.  I think I will avoid you from now on.



That's very strange since the point you thought you were making was based around how many years someone or other has been POTUS.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yeatster]
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Yeatster said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
OK. I can step in on this one.
He tried a fake elector plot.
He literally stole mailboxes from black neighborhoods. To make it much harder, if not impossible for people to cast their vote in Democratic



:liottalol:

Also, you're smart enough to know when a period and a comma is necessary?



It would’ve been way too long of a sentence. I standby that.
If I really had the time. I would’ve liked to have made a bullet list.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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Joh.Ke said:
Kwyjibo said:
Joh.Ke said:
I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.




If you don't pay attention to these things then why comment on things you know nothing about?

For example...
Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.





I wouldn't say I know nothing.  I know something, but apparently to all you people, one needs to be an expert before one can comment on a political topic.





You seem very triggered by this.  We just want to have a rational discussion.  Have you considered why that makes you angry?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
That's very strange since the point you thought you were making was based around how many years someone or other has been POTUS.



No, that's not my point.  My point was that Trump was not likely to be the cause for your country turning into a dictatorship.  He did a lot of things, some of which are truly questionable, but I doubt he can do as much damage as compared to, say, the POTUS.

Someone actually made a list of things he's guilty of.  I don't know how true they are, but I want to point out that anybody can do scummy things, but he will likely just be a scummy nobody.  A scummy nobody can only do so much damage.  That is my point.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Joh.Ke said:
Kwyjibo said:
Joh.Ke said:
I am not American, I don't keep track of how many years someone or other has been POTUS.




If you don't pay attention to these things then why comment on things you know nothing about?

For example...
Joh.Ke said:
Trump hasn't been POTUS the past 4 years.





I wouldn't say I know nothing.  I know something, but apparently to all you people, one needs to be an expert before one can comment on a political topic.





You seem very triggered by this.  We just want to have a rational discussion.  Have you considered why that makes you angry?



Lmao, I can't believe how immature you are being.

Dude, admit it.  I was just minding my own business having a discussion with people and you came in and accused me of not being able to count.  If anyone is angry, it's you.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
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But Trump is not a nobody. He is a former POTUS and the current and almost certainly guaranteed GOP frontrunner for the next POTUS.

And he has a powerful machine building the tools he will need to establish a dictatorship.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Yeatster said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
OK. I can step in on this one.
He tried a fake elector plot.
He literally stole mailboxes from black neighborhoods. To make it much harder, if not impossible for people to cast their vote in Democratic



:liottalol:

Also, you're smart enough to know when a period and a comma is necessary?



It would’ve been way too long of a sentence. I standby that.
If I really had the time. I would’ve liked to have made a bullet list.



Im most amused by "he literally stole mailboxes..."

Im sure you have proof. Lol

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yeatster]
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Sure. Guess where all of these came from?



https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/17/facebook-posts/no-wisconsin-mailbox-picture-isnt-proof-massive-vo/
Did you not hear about this?



Stealing mailboxes seems to be a very inefficient way to commit voter fraud.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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It happened on a large scale. Mostly in the swing states that actually decide who’s gonna be president. In our country most of our states are pretty set as either red or blue. Lots of the purple mailboxes vanished.
What a coincidence…

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
It happened on a large scale. Mostly in the swing states that actually decide who’s gonna be president. In our country most of our states are pretty set as either red or blue. Lots of the purple mailboxes vanished.
What a coincidence…




Wouldn't it be some kind of felony?  To interfere with the electoral process like that.  If Trump is truly found guilty of it, then he should go to jail.

Some people seem to think that I am a Trump supporter, I am not. I do not care whether he runs in 2024 one way or the other.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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Trump literally stole those. Obviously

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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Joh.Ke said:
ballsalsa said:
That's very strange since the point you thought you were making was based around how many years someone or other has been POTUS.



No, that's not my point.  My point was that Trump was not likely to be the cause for your country turning into a dictatorship.  He did a lot of things, some of which are truly questionable, but I doubt he can do as much damage as compared to, say, the POTUS.

Someone actually made a list of things he's guilty of.  I don't know how true they are, but I want to point out that anybody can do scummy things, but he will likely just be a scummy nobody.  A scummy nobody can only do so much damage.  That is my point.



Trump hasn't done it yet, it's just suggested he will if re-elected because of what he's proposed to do..

Point being, the US isn't a dictatorship or the likes yet, just that trump might intend to turn it more authoritarian.

Though functionally the US is an oligarchy, the actual policy platform isn't authoritarian as of yet.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Joh.Ke]
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Joh.Ke said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
It happened on a large scale. Mostly in the swing states that actually decide who’s gonna be president. In our country most of our states are pretty set as either red or blue. Lots of the purple mailboxes vanished.
What a coincidence…




Wouldn't it be some kind of felony?  To interfere with the electoral process like that.  If Trump is truly found guilty of it, then he should go to jail.

Some people seem to think that I am a Trump supporter, I am not. I do not care whether he runs in 2024 one way or the other.



Well, Trump actually put somebody in charge of the USPS. Who did not have the American voters best interest at heart. They had trump’s best interest at heart.
So they tried to justify it with some thin excuse. But they ended up stealing a lot of mailboxes that did not come back.

Some people in our country have to wait almost an entire day to go and vote in person.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yeatster]
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Yeatster said:
Trump literally stole those. Obviously



If he literally did propose the idea. And then he literally had his cronies carry out his plans for him.
Without having to lay his hands on it.
I would say that he did literally have those mailboxes taken away.

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