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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Benderr] * 1
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Benderr said:
I got a Nat swab! Following along, got it on agar now waiting for germination.

Will post just like with the other stuff as it grows, thanks folks.

It looks like cubes on plates right?


Check the "Collected notes on growing natalensis" in my sig for some recapped info from this thread.

On agar nat myc can be tomentose, silken, or crazy rhizo. In my experience, the myc of clones I took went in the silky direction on agar, so it's what I've looked for.

Nat myc is really aggressive, will even try to grow out of the agar dish. It really likes FAE, and I think it doesn't like being suffocated in the dish :rofl:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Benderr] * 3
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Nah Benderr, it looks better than cubes on plates

:cookiemonster:

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: stagger]
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stagger said:
Chris, my first and only experience with nats was unexpectedly challenging at moments, mostly for going off others reports.  49.3g fresh nats were just as strong, except for duration, compared to a recent 60g fresh pe trip.  Maybe this is still on the lighter side for some or most, but I'm not sure what makes challenging experiences for others either.

I know this is out of context a bit from what you were saying, which I generally agree with..  but if I were to sift back through other pages or through other threads, it seems more often than not they are said to be somethimg lighter or weaker or less visual. That wasn't my experience and I was pleasantly surprised by them.


49.3 fresh should be about 4g dry or so?. thats a big dose.. no wonder you got what you asked for :wink: im glad you say pleasantly surprised, even though it was challenging at times.
thanks for sharing


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 3
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I don't personally find them to be challenging but I do feel fairly comfortable on high doses.

6-8 g is a good dose, sure it's not for everyone but I love those higher doses, so much more happens.

But I do love low dose Nats as well because they make me feel great.

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
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DERRAYLD said:
I don't personally find them to be challenging but I do feel fairly comfortable on high doses.

6-8 g is a good dose, sure it's not for everyone but I love those higher doses, so much more happens.

But I do love low dose Nats as well because they make me feel great.


i really feel you about the beauty and good feeling on a low dose.
less than 0.5 and i took the metro to the citycenter, headphones with very silent ambient music.
didnt feel gone with the music at all, but fully connected with smooth people all around me (maybe got lucky)
rarely i spend time among strangers on mushrooms but this time it was a blissful experience full of love and positivity. sun was shining, and my field of view got so large and harmonious. even slightest reaminders of nature (while walking the streets) kept me feel connected.
great feeling in the body... lasted at least 3 hours


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
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chris77 said:
:mindblown:

i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.

in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?

and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?


For me 2-3g would be an extremely strong dose.  1g gets me waves of OEV's so dense that I can barely see anything beyond them.  The natalensis I've had were 2-3x stronger than regular cubensis.  Although that could just be personal sensitivity or an unusually potent variety.

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chuparosa] * 2
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Damn son. Almost sounds like there are 2 varieties of Nats. One with regular strength and then some super potent fuckers like what you and DERRAYLD have.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chuparosa] * 3
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chuparosa said:
chris77 said:
:mindblown:

i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.

in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?

and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?


For me 2-3g would be an extremely strong dose.  1g gets me waves of OEV's so dense that I can barely see anything beyond them.  The natalensis I've had were 2-3x stronger than regular cubensis.  Although that could just be personal sensitivity or an unusually potent variety.



Yeah I'm going to need a sample of them super potent ones for

:havesomescience:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] * 5
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So I ate my twat last night. 5.5g fresh. Was not expecting much, took it before bed and figured I would sleep before it hit and possibly be treated with some lucid dreams.
Minutes after lying down, white noise became organized into rhythms and layers of textured melodies. This persisted until I felt I was part of the music, kind of vibrating along as it's center.
At this point cev's made there way into the mix and became one with the sound vibrations. The cev's where not at all cubelike but just as vivid. Less geometrical and colorful but not less intense.
Headspace was clean and happy. Like nats, if a stressful topic bubbled up, it just kept floating by. Din't grab me and send me for a spin.
Overall it felt very short and I was left with a sense of wellbeing and WAY too much energy. Still feeling good this morning. Going to take a burn in the woods on my mountain bike.
Look forward to playing with these more, will probably start with 2.5g dry after this experience.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] * 3
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Adas said:
Damn son. Almost sounds like there are 2 varieties of Nats. One with regular strength and then some super potent fuckers like what you and DERRAYLD have.


I second that emotion... I prefer my AA+ for visuals (and baptizing my friends), but I like nats for the introspective, contemplative, manageable and feel-good vibe...

also:

I'm going back to spores, snakes are too labor-intensive


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: 999999999] * 7
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Here is my harvest from this week (minus 2 jars I powdered for capsules today) after 2 runs of the dehydrator. One oz nats per jar.





Only 1.5 oz to go until I hit the 1 pound dry mark with nats. They were slow getting off the ground, but I got there. Next trip is going to be late November/early December for both the GF and I. Our second nat trip. Looking forward to it.


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Edited by BlueAndOrange (11/10/22 03:09 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
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BlueAndOrange said:
Here is my harvest from this week (minus 2 jars I powdered for capsules today) after 2 runs of the dehydrator. One oz nats per jar.





Only 1.5 oz to go until I hit the 1 pound dry mark with nats. They were slow getting off the ground, but I got there. Next trip is going to be late November/early December for both the GF and I. Our second nat trip. Looking forward to it.


:manofapproval:
nice!!!!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 4
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1 years worth of NAT tripping for me and my GF.

Mylar bags, impulse sealed, O2 and moisture absorbers.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
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What size capsules do you use for those & where do you source them? I've been making chocolate but would love to create caps as well.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CJD] * 4
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For my big doses I use size 000. For my micro doses I use size 1. I buy empties here:

https://www.capsulesupplies.com/

I like these filling machines:

https://www.herbaffair.com/products/capsule-it-capsule-filler?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=2067985856&utm_content=76112161373&utm_term=capsu%20fill%20machine&gadid=541251582228&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv7fm-ICl-wIVjuDICh380Q3VEAAYAiAAEgLeUvD_BwE

For grinding I use a 150g grain mill, and I use wallaby for oxygen absorbers, Mylar bags and an impulse sealer. I use a 500g capacity scale capable of .01g accuracy that was under $50 at Amazon.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
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You're my hero! I wanted all that info but didn't want to be a pest asking for it all. :rockon:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CJD] * 2
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Happy to help. I owe many debts of gratitude to this community that has thought me much. Happy to pay it forward when I can help.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 5
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environment influencing pheno


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CJD] * 1
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CJD said:
You're my hero! I wanted all that info but didn't want to be a pest asking for it all. :rockon:


I use this machine to make my capsules. It works great and does 100 at a time. They can be purchased for different size capsules. I use the 00 size and can get almost a gram in them with heavy packing. The capsule are easily found on Amazon but the machines are not sold on there.

https://www.allincapsule.com/products/all-in-capsule-filling-machine-for-size-00-make-your-own-capsules-now-easier-and-faster-use-with-empty-gelatin-or-vegetarian-caps-clear-illustrated-instructions-with-video


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW]
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
CJD said:
You're my hero! I wanted all that info but didn't want to be a pest asking for it all. :rockon:


I use this machine to make my capsules. It works great and does 100 at a time. They can be purchased for different size capsules. I use the 00 size and can get almost a gram in them with heavy packing. The capsule are easily found on Amazon but the machines are not sold on there.

https://www.allincapsule.com/products/all-in-capsule-filling-machine-for-size-00-make-your-own-capsules-now-easier-and-faster-use-with-empty-gelatin-or-vegetarian-caps-clear-illustrated-instructions-with-video


Wow. I’m using the same machine as you and getting around half a gram into the bigger capsules. If I pack harder it starts damaging the capsules. What’s your secret?


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