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chris77
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Melgo] 1
#28041415 - 11/09/22 01:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.
in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?
and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?
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 dear snake whispers, is this a decent time to chop them reptiles? looking forward for the second flush where I get the meaty fruits Love
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck] 1
#28041448 - 11/09/22 03:03 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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 dear snake whispers, is this a decent time to chop them reptiles? looking forward for the second flush where I get the meaty fruits Love 
looking good to go 👌🏼 well done!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 3
#28041452 - 11/09/22 03:11 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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chris77 said:

i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.
in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?
and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?
I've only heard of one negative with nats from a spore vendor; person providing the testimony could have simply overdone it, though.
My experience was very profound on just 1.5g via tea; definitely stronger than cubes at the same dose, but extremely gentle, as many have stated. Feelings at 45min-1.5hrs were very euphoric and "fun"; music was amazing and even got up to dance a few times haha. There is a distinct vibe I felt during this time where I just felt so happy and carefree, with problems plaguing me just melting away and allowing me to enjoy the moment. The remainder of the trip, T:+2hrs-4hrs, was very insightful and healing, allowing me to focus on a very serious life obstacle causing me a lot of mental and emotional pain. Dose wasn't high enough for OEV or CEV, though meditative imagery was quite pronounced, which provided the main therapeutic value of my session. Returned a call to someone I haven't had a conversation with in about 10 years at the T:+3hr mark; was able to keep it together and apparently left an impression of being extremely mature and wise, while helping them through issues they were struggling with. I was just surprised I held it together and formulated cohesive sentences haha. Hit baseline at about T:+4-4.25hrs.
If I had to state anything close to a negative, it would be that I experienced somewhat of a narcotic/heavily drunken effect at T:+2hrs to about T:+3hrs. Walking and maintaining balance took some effort; had to catch myself on walls a few times, but I attribute this to low tolerance for most entheogens in general.
Overall, love nats and look forward to working with them at higher dose levels in the future.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#28041453 - 11/09/22 03:13 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Nice Gleyck! My snakey flushes had much lower spore drop than the more cube looking ones, so I let them go a little longer. You could pick those now if you wanted though.
The one with the furry hat in the bottom right hanging out of the shoebox is awesome! Am I seeing that right, can you take a closer picture of that guy?
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Thanks for sharing Norsern_vind. Good to hear more reports.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#28041487 - 11/09/22 04:39 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Norsern- that lethargy is fairly common with some of the Nats from my experience through the years.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] 3
#28041611 - 11/09/22 06:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: For me pans BY FAR have the best visuals, but the mental and emotional effects of natalensis are just so good. Prob gonna try spiking my nat dose with some pans next to see if I can get the best of both worlds.
Funny, I just posted on the pans thread a mini report on this. For me, mixing pans with nats at a 65% 35% pans/nats rate yielded a great trip with mind blowing CEVs with a much more gentle, friendlier vibe than pans alone
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MrBlueshrooms said: I switched to nats several months ago. Kept my dose the same and got used to it pretty quick. They are stronger but gentler.
I didn’t find cubes ungentle when microdosing. How big is your dose? I’m thinking of switching to nats when my cube caps run out.
I take 1/3 gram 2 times a day for inflamation (serious medical miracle the things, I was actually siezed up pretty bad. 6 weeks into the nats and I was pretty much cured). Cubes just felt a little grungy. the biggest differences with nats were all positive. I find myself in a better mood and able to deal with stress easier, cubse did too, but nats just feel more effective to me (plus cubes did not help the inflamation).
Anecdotally I will agree that the anti-inflammatory properties of Nats are amazing. More research needed.
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My GF and I both have chronic pain issues. We eat anti-inflammatory diets, exercise, sleep well, but are interested in upping the relief. We also have mental health/emotional reasons for microdosing, so it would be great if daily microdosing nats provided both benefits. I’m making up some nats capsules tomorrow.
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BlueAndOrange said: My GF and I both have chronic pain issues. We eat anti-inflammatory diets, exercise, sleep well, but are interested in upping the relief. We also have mental health/emotional reasons for microdosing, so it would be great if daily microdosing nats provided both benefits. I’m making up some nats capsules tomorrow.
I hope they help. Be sure to stick with it for a while, my relief came over a period of several weeks. At 6 weeks I was like,"this is unbelievable."
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BlueAndOrange said: My GF and I both have chronic pain issues. We eat anti-inflammatory diets, exercise, sleep well, but are interested in upping the relief. We also have mental health/emotional reasons for microdosing, so it would be great if daily microdosing nats provided both benefits. I’m making up some nats capsules tomorrow.
I hope they help. Be sure to stick with it for a while, my relief came over a period of several weeks. At 6 weeks I was like,"this is unbelievable."
I really appreciate your experience here. I’ll definitely stick it out 6 weeks, but 1/3 gram is a big microdose for us. We’ll be starting closer to .1 gram and working up to it.
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Keep us posted! I am really interested in hearing other's experiences using these for inflamation.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#28042161 - 11/09/22 01:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.
in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?
and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?
2-3g might be quite a bit for a first or second time. I’m pretty sensitive to mushrooms but 1g of natalensis is a solid trip usually. I’d dose them like they were PE just to be safe unless you’ve tried the batch before.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#28042166 - 11/09/22 02:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i guess its safe to say, that so far we haven't heard of harsh or very challenging experiences with natalensis? at least i havent.
in this case it should be safe to say that natalensis are kind of ideal for beginners who haven't had any psychedelic experience in their life?
and that an initial dose of 2-3 grams would be a good starting point?
2-3g might be quite a bit for a first or second time. I’m pretty sensitive to mushrooms but 1g of natalensis is a solid trip usually. I’d dose them like they were PE just to be safe unless you’ve tried the batch before.
understood! it is for a friend who wants to try for the first time, and as I haven't hat a real go at natalensis yet, i thought o would rather ask. thanks for your reply, will recommend a low dose.
as i have only tested minor dose of Natalensis (less than 0.5g) i depend on recommendations. better to start with 1 g and take a second cup 1hr in, than an overwhelmingly strong experience for a first timer. thank you
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Tiny experiment with 1:4 ratio compressed to the limit of my strength. Never seen this kind of root-like myc growth; seems to be really muscling up that sub
Seems to be a pattern in my culture: on WBS and coir 1st flush - thin snakes; On BRF cakes - chubby, meaty, mutant and sterile fruits. Love you, Natalensis, you freak
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck] 3
#28042261 - 11/09/22 03:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Wow @ Gleyck They cool! Looks like my other two cultures may overlay
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 3
#28042791 - 11/09/22 08:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Chris, my first and only experience with nats was unexpectedly challenging at moments, mostly for going off others reports. 49.3g fresh nats were just as strong, except for duration, compared to a recent 60g fresh pe trip. Maybe this is still on the lighter side for some or most, but I'm not sure what makes challenging experiences for others either.
I know this is out of context a bit from what you were saying, which I generally agree with.. but if I were to sift back through other pages or through other threads, it seems more often than not they are said to be somethimg lighter or weaker or less visual. That wasn't my experience and I was pleasantly surprised by them.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] 5
#28042797 - 11/09/22 08:43 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I got a Nat swab! Following along, got it on agar now waiting for germination.
Will post just like with the other stuff as it grows, thanks folks.
It looks like cubes on plates right?
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