Kwyjibo said:

there's evidence we know exists that we haven't seen and have been asking for. We're not claiming evidence exists without any proof of it's existence.

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Kwyjibo said:

there's evidence we know exists that we haven't seen and have been asking for. We're not claiming evidence exists without any proof of it's existence.

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koods said:

Video evidence of that should be simple to get if you don’t have any after two Months it doesn’t exist

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Kwyjibo said:

Have you seen the complete unredacted Mueller report?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Kwyjibo said:

Have you seen the complete unredacted Mueller report?

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I've seen the report's conclusion:  "Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities."

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Brian Jones said:

I don't believe he has a political future.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

IdiotCircusBoy said:

It's my understanding these people fell into two categories.
1. They were not official poll watchers.  There were already official poll watchers there and these people just showed up.
2. They were harassing poll workers.

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My understanding is that they kept official poll workers too far away to see anything, when they were supposed to allow them to be to be 6 feet away.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

Video evidence of that should be simple to get if you don’t have any after two Months it doesn’t exist

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Dude, this wasn't even disputed in court.  A judge even ordered they had to start allowing official poll workers to get within 6 feet, but by that time it was a bit late.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

Video evidence of that should be simple to get if you don’t have any after two Months it doesn’t exist

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Dude, this wasn't even disputed in court.  A judge even ordered they had to start allowing official poll workers to get within 6 feet, but by that time it was a bit late.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

DividedQuantum said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?

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If we can use facts as evidence, the facts are that there has been extensive confirmation of the validity of the vote submitting and counting process, including numerous recounts and vetting of voting systems, and no fraud whatsoever has been found. Over sixty lawsuits alleging fraud have been dismissed due to the fact that literally zero evidence of fraud could be produced. Vote certification has been done in all fifty states with extensive confidence. Any attempt to refute or gloss over these facts is conspiracy theorizing.

Are facts enough?

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Did they not find suspicious activity though?  What about the Dominion machines finding a 68% error rate?  Do we just accept koods' excuse of "End of story. Clearly that expert was an idiot."?

And now we have new evidence of fraud.  Are we going to dismiss that as well, or should we maybe check into it?

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Kwyjibo said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

I've seen the report's conclusion:  "Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities."

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I never said the evidence would prove or disprove anything. Regardless of what the evidence is we haven't seen it.

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What was redacted was grand jury material, sensitive intelligence, matters that could affect ongoing investigations, and infringements on the privacy rights of peripheral third parties.  The conclusion wasn't redacted.

Kwyjibo said:

If you're willing to believe the conclusion in the Mueller report then you should be just as accepting of the ~60 court cases that weren't able to show voter fraud.

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Who said I wasn't accepting of those? 

I'm saying I'm willing to look at any new evidence and see what's there, not cry about it.

Enlil said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

A judge even ordered they had to start allowing official poll workers to get within 6 feet, but by that time it was a bit late.

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That order was overturned.

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koods said:

That’s evidence they need a better tape measure, not fraud. It’s certainly not anything that even gets close to calling votes in question.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Did they not find suspicious activity though?  What about the Dominion machines finding a 68% error rate?  Do we just accept koods' excuse of "End of story. Clearly that expert was an idiot."?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Enlil said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

A judge even ordered they had to start allowing official poll workers to get within 6 feet, but by that time it was a bit late.

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That order was overturned.

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Which further proves the point that observers weren't allowed to be close enough to really observe.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

DividedQuantum said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?

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If we can use facts as evidence, the facts are that there has been extensive confirmation of the validity of the vote submitting and counting process, including numerous recounts and vetting of voting systems, and no fraud whatsoever has been found. Over sixty lawsuits alleging fraud have been dismissed due to the fact that literally zero evidence of fraud could be produced. Vote certification has been done in all fifty states with extensive confidence. Any attempt to refute or gloss over these facts is conspiracy theorizing.

Are facts enough?

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Did they not find suspicious activity though?  What about the Dominion machines finding a 68% error rate?  Do we just accept koods' excuse of "End of story. Clearly that expert was an idiot."?

And now we have new evidence of fraud.  Are we going to dismiss that as well, or should we maybe check into it?

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Enlil said:

Georgia counted by hand and got the exact same vote as the dominion count. That is 68% lower of an error rate than those experts found.

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koods said:

I’d be careful making posts using that libelous report. Dominion is out for blood.

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