ballsalsa said:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats-Historical-Data-Tables

data?

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qman said:

rxb said:

man, you clearly have nothing to back up what you are saying... and i dont like tax solutions anyhow...

so why dont you either be a man and admit you over-reached or just quietly drop it.

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I been smoking weed and drinking, so I ain't looking up shit tonight (maybe tomorrow), but think about it, would you work or own a business and take that risk for just 10% of your profit after taxation?  Not a chance in hell, nobody's that stupid.

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zZZz said:

I'd rather have illegals than legals, it's usually the legal ones who run a muck, cuz they feel so entitled like they can do wutever they want

Just look at all the prisons, like 90% of the inmates are legal citizens

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rxb said:

ballsalsa said:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats-Historical-Data-Tables

data?

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is that your attempt to show who used loopholes?

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koods said:

qman said:

rxb said:

man, you clearly have nothing to back up what you are saying... and i dont like tax solutions anyhow...

so why dont you either be a man and admit you over-reached or just quietly drop it.

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I been smoking weed and drinking, so I ain't looking up shit tonight (maybe tomorrow), but think about it, would you work or own a business and take that risk for just 10% of your profit after taxation?  Not a chance in hell, nobody's that stupid.

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Let's be more reasonable and ask if rich people would really stop investing their money if their profits were taxed at 30% or 40% instead if the current 15%

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koods said:

qman said:

rxb said:

man, you clearly have nothing to back up what you are saying... and i dont like tax solutions anyhow...

so why dont you either be a man and admit you over-reached or just quietly drop it.

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I been smoking weed and drinking, so I ain't looking up shit tonight (maybe tomorrow), but think about it, would you work or own a business and take that risk for just 10% of your profit after taxation?  Not a chance in hell, nobody's that stupid.

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Let's be more reasonable and ask if rich people would really stop investing their money if their profits were taxed at 30% or 40% instead if the current 15%

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

koods said:

qman said:

rxb said:

man, you clearly have nothing to back up what you are saying... and i dont like tax solutions anyhow...

so why dont you either be a man and admit you over-reached or just quietly drop it.

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I been smoking weed and drinking, so I ain't looking up shit tonight (maybe tomorrow), but think about it, would you work or own a business and take that risk for just 10% of your profit after taxation?  Not a chance in hell, nobody's that stupid.

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Let's be more reasonable and ask if rich people would really stop investing their money if their profits were taxed at 30% or 40% instead if the current 15%

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Many of them would slowly make their way offshore. The rich have the place by the nuts globally.

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rxb said:

ballsalsa said:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats-Historical-Data-Tables

data?

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is that your attempt to show who used loopholes?

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zappaisgod said:

Kinko said:

You are incorrect zappa as you know ive been working without papers for a while the people who came in with papers either were lazy or could not handle the job , or were fired promptly... You mericans think you should be treated differently because your a citizen lolol illegals have to do the jobs because noone else will.

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I am sure you are extremely impressed with yourself and think you are an irreplaceable snowflake.

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VivaLaMushie said:

here in AZ all the illegals have to do is stand by the Circle K on the corner and they get picked up by contractors and shit.

STEALING JOBS FROM AMERICANS

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Hmm no... You mericans need ac and an hour lunch break. I had a commercial cleaning business a few years back guess who was working?? Not mericans and yes the hispanics paid taxes i made sure of that

qman said:

zZZz said:

well the wealthy pretty much own the country so alot of that money also goes to the country

btw paying taxes is inevitable, everyone pays taxes

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If you're trying to make a case that illegals working in the US is beneficial from a economic position, you're going to fail. 

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my3rdeye said:

qman said:

zZZz said:

well the wealthy pretty much own the country so alot of that money also goes to the country

btw paying taxes is inevitable, everyone pays taxes

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If you're trying to make a case that illegals working in the US is beneficial from a economic position, you're going to fail. 

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Of course it is beneficial. If you want to buy a house its cheaper because of illegal labor. If you want to go out for dinner, the illegals in the kitchen are the reason it's affordable. Every American I know has a gardener, I can't afford a couple of white guys in a truck, to them it's a real job. You know if you go to Europe or Aus or Canada, pretty well anywhere else you are going to be in for some serious sticker shock at the grocery store. That's because our food is planted and maintained and harvested by legal immigrants and people born here. The idea of getting an illegal to drive the truck that delivers it is also unheard of here.
You anti immigrant people never ever complain and say you want higher prices on these things. You consider fair or living wage to be a liberal plot. So I don't care if some mexican took your job, maybe if an illegal immigrant who knows no one, and doesn't know the language came and took your job, maybe you need to look in the mirror for someone to blame.
Fuck if I could hire illegals I would start a business tomorrow. I can't afford to give people medical benefits and vacation time and bathroom breaks though.

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kr0nik0 said:

You're a big reason of what's currently wrong in America, OP.

My poor mother paid so much money to immigration lawyers, the INS, as well as more money towards visas, work visas, and eventually so did I so we could go through all the proper channels for us to eventually become legitimate, American citizens in the early 00's. We never spent one day illegally in this country and I'm damn proud of that because it's a lot more than 99% of other immigrants can say. You taking your fucking shortcuts to work here is pretty much stealing directly from me and this country. You get it?

You don't have the right to ask why people here might not have a job (which isn't my case). You're the reason that it was so damn hard for me and my family to enjoy what this country has to offer. Of course the government doesn't trust the majority of immigrants. Because of your "technically legal" bullshit.

Fuck that! I rarely ever get mad on these boards but this is a subject that is very close to my heart. I wouldn't feel any guilt whatsoever if someone called the INS on you and deported your ass so you'd stop stealing from MY and other Americans' pockets.

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ballsalsa said:

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The fact is, they are a necessary labor resource. As it stands now, this country food supply depends on a reliable undocumented labor force. Crackdowns have demonstrated that American agriculture would be crippled without them.

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This is a common argument.  It might even be true.  Of course we won't know unless Agribusiness starts paying at least minimum wage for the jobs that they hire migrants to do.  One thing is sure, americans are not going to pick berries for less than minimum wage.  The other problem with this, is that it assumes that migrants are too stupid to realize that they can walk across the road to Mickey D's and get a raise.  I assure you, they are not.

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ballsalsa said:

OP back in the day:

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