Le_Canard said:

Well tell me why they're finding work here?
And, here's a radical thought - why don't we crack down on those that hire them? No jobs, no Mexicans it seems to me.

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zappaisgod said:

Le_Canard said:

Hey they work hard and long for real cheap. And none of those pesky health and safety regulations to worry about either. That right there is free market capitalism, my friend.

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There is nothing free market about it.  They are here illegally, do not adhere to the regulations the rest of us have to, and, contrary to the idiot's narrative, DO NOT PAY TAXES.  They also do not work harder than anybody else and around here they aren't cheap.  $125 a day plus lunch and transportation.  I figure that works out to about  $20 an hour for a taxed American take home pay.

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it does, I make about 20 an hour for now and take home about 110-120 a day after taxes. and I have to pay for my own transportation and lunch

zZZz said:

it's cuz they're making the country filthy rich

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zZZz said:

well the wealthy pretty much own the country so alot of that money also goes to the country

btw paying taxes is inevitable, everyone pays taxes

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zappaisgod said:

Le_Canard said:

Hey they work hard and long for real cheap. And none of those pesky health and safety regulations to worry about either. That right there is free market capitalism, my friend.

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There is nothing free market about it.  They are here illegally, do not adhere to the regulations the rest of us have to, and, contrary to the idiot's narrative, DO NOT PAY TAXES.  They also do not work harder than anybody else and around here they aren't cheap.  $125 a day plus lunch and transportation.  I figure that works out to about  $20 an hour for a taxed American take home pay.

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qman said:

zZZz said:

well the wealthy pretty much own the country so alot of that money also goes to the country

btw paying taxes is inevitable, everyone pays taxes

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If you're trying to make a case that illegals working in the US is beneficial from a economic position, you're going to fail. 

"a lot of that money also goes to the country"

No, it goes into the pockets of the very few while he destroys wages for tens of millions of US workers, it's not even a debate, it's a fact.

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CaptainKurt said:

zappaisgod said:

Le_Canard said:

Hey they work hard and long for real cheap. And none of those pesky health and safety regulations to worry about either. That right there is free market capitalism, my friend.

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There is nothing free market about it.  They are here illegally, do not adhere to the regulations the rest of us have to, and, contrary to the idiot's narrative, DO NOT PAY TAXES.  They also do not work harder than anybody else and around here they aren't cheap.  $125 a day plus lunch and transportation.  I figure that works out to about  $20 an hour for a taxed American take home pay.

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I think it all boils down to property taxes, the government is taxing the hell out of properties. The farmers are barely making a profit becuase they have this huge piece of land growing food on it. The food harvested has gotta pay the land tax. Landlords have to take 80% of a persons income for rent, because they gotta make a profit after paying landtax and try to pay off the building itself for what they paid for it. To help balance this outta people are being exploiting now, becuase nobody can afford to pay $5 for a ballpoint pen made by american workers with full union and health benfits. We buy ones made in china for 25 cents each. Those workers are being exploiting to the hilt be paid like 8 dollar per day. Mexican day laborers are being exploited also by american business, like a more slightly more expensive version of a chinese worker.

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zZZz said:

they get no taxes back tho. the regular citizens randomly get deducted from their checks for shit like health care, or their social security plan and whatnot, the illegal immigrants still have to do this anyway, but the only difference is their is no paper work. either way tho they'll have to pay taxes eventually if they dont already.

everyone pays taxes tho, u ever see the tax stickers on the food products and whatnot?, a tax is a tax is a tax

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zZZz said:

alot of the money goes straight towards the government, i.e. courthouses, which in turn should go back to the city.

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AcidBath said:

People who fill out applications and sit on their ass waiting for someone to offer them a job. I am a Texan and have learned after a few years of the above that shit doesn't cut it. Especially in today's society, where most people pulling a min wage job can't afford to keep groceries stocked after taxes. I've worked under the table in a foreign country before.. You really do come out ahead until you fuck your body up.

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