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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz]
#21702521 - 05/20/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: they get no taxes back tho. the regular citizens randomly get deducted from their checks for shit like health care, or their social security plan and whatnot, the illegal immigrants still have to do this anyway, but the only difference is their is no paper work. either way tho they'll have to pay taxes eventually if they dont already.
everyone pays taxes tho, u ever see the tax stickers on the food products and whatnot?, a tax is a tax is a tax
"they'll have to pay taxes eventually"
Really, just like they pay for their visits to the ER? What fantasy world do you live in, it must be fun?
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: qman]
#21702571 - 05/20/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea i dont know makes people think that just because u arent a citizen u are somehow free from paying any bills
truth is the average immigrant has about as much rights as a homeless person, probably even less than an homeless person because homeless people can't get deported.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz]
#21702588 - 05/20/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: yea i dont know makes people think that just because u arent a citizen u are somehow free from paying any bills
truth is the average immigrant has about as much rights as a homeless person, probably even less than an homeless person because homeless people can't get deported.
illegal immigrant
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz]
#21702615 - 05/20/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: yea i dont know makes people think that just because u arent a citizen u are somehow free from paying any bills
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truth is the average immigrant has about as much rights as a homeless person, probably even less than an homeless person because homeless people can't get deported.
That's right although some of the homeless are illegal and we still feed them, house them and pay for their kids' schools in addition to medical care. They are a huge net loss.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zappaisgod]
#21702627 - 05/20/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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any good business man would say it is a good investment.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz]
#21702631 - 05/20/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Of course he would because the taxpayer is subsidizing his workforce. Welfare for business owners.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: Herbologist]
#21702639 - 05/20/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: yea i dont know makes people think that just because u arent a citizen u are somehow free from paying any bills
truth is the average immigrant has about as much rights as a homeless person, probably even less than an homeless person because homeless people can't get deported.
illegal immigrant
stealing is illegal too u know..
but yet we've been doing since the dawn of man. we pay thieves to live on stolen land. that's gotta be illegal.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz] 1
#21702641 - 05/20/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
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zZZz said: yea i dont know makes people think that just because u arent a citizen u are somehow free from paying any bills
truth is the average immigrant has about as much rights as a homeless person, probably even less than an homeless person because homeless people can't get deported.
illegal immigrant
stealing is illegal too u know..
but yet we've been doing since the dawn of man. we pay thieves to live on stolen land. that's gotta be illegal.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zappaisgod]
#21702656 - 05/20/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Of course he would because the taxpayer is subsidizing his workforce. Welfare for business owners.
welcome to the real world. if u aren't rich better get used to those chains boy
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz]
#21702663 - 05/20/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm a business owner. I want the laws applied equally to everyone.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zZZz] 1
#21702686 - 05/20/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: any good business man would say it is a good investment.
Really? Pissing away tax money on people that don't belong in the US is a good investment? Who do you think pays for their health care, education, social services and criminal justice expenses? It's not them.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: qman]
#21702692 - 05/20/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is a good investment for the welfare case business owner.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zappaisgod]
#21702697 - 05/20/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Well tell me why they're finding work here? And, here's a radical thought - why don't we crack down on those that hire them? No jobs, no Mexicans it seems to me.
I agree 100%. When Reagan signed that stupid fucking amnesty bill in the 80s there were supposed to be huge fines for anybody caught hiring illegals after. What happened? Nothing. The government has chosen not to enforce the laws it has enacted.
Well, what would have happened is that pretty much every small business owners would have had to declare bankruptcy
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: Kinko] 3
#21702698 - 05/20/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're a big reason of what's currently wrong in America, OP.
My poor mother paid so much money to immigration lawyers, the INS, as well as more money towards visas, work visas, and eventually so did I so we could go through all the proper channels for us to eventually become legitimate, American citizens in the early 00's. We never spent one day illegally in this country and I'm damn proud of that because it's a lot more than 99% of other immigrants can say. You taking your fucking shortcuts to work here is pretty much stealing directly from me and this country. You get it?
You don't have the right to ask why people here might not have a job (which isn't my case). You're the reason that it was so damn hard for me and my family to enjoy what this country has to offer. Of course the government doesn't trust the majority of immigrants. Because of your "technically legal" bullshit.
Fuck that! I rarely ever get mad on these boards but this is a subject that is very close to my heart. I wouldn't feel any guilt whatsoever if someone called the INS on you and deported your ass so you'd stop stealing from MY and other Americans' pockets.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: Patlal]
#21702706 - 05/20/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope. That never happened.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: qman]
#21702751 - 05/20/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Really? Pissing away tax money on people that don't belong in the US is a good investment? Who do you think pays for their health care, education, social services and criminal justice expenses? It's not them.
that money gets pissed back into the economy tho, everyone wins, it's just not directed at anyone in particular.
they pay for all those services, try to live with those services without a job, unless u're just a kid, it aint gonna happen anytime soon pancho
and for the last time, everyone pays taxes, everyone is fucked unless u're like filthy rich pretty much, get used to it folks, u should have been by now already.
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#21702771 - 05/20/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Really? Pissing away tax money on people that don't belong in the US is a good investment? Who do you think pays for their health care, education, social services and criminal justice expenses? It's not them.
that money gets pissed back into the economy tho, everyone wins, it's just not directed at anyone in particular.
they pay for all those services, try to live with those services without a job, unless u're just a kid, it aint gonna happen anytime soon pancho
and for the last time, everyone pays taxes, everyone is fucked unless u're like filthy rich pretty much, get used to it folks, u should have been by now already.
"everyone wins"
Nope, not the US worker, do you understand the basic concept of demand and supply? US wages are stuck in the mud for decades now and illegals are one of the mains reasons for that fact.
"they pay for all of those services"
Nope, they cost over 8 times more in tax revenue than they contribute, that's called being a burden.
"that money gets pissed back into the economy"
The profits from cheap wages? So what? That's the worse economic argument I have ever heard, try again.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: Patlal]
#21702792 - 05/20/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Well tell me why they're finding work here? And, here's a radical thought - why don't we crack down on those that hire them? No jobs, no Mexicans it seems to me.
I agree 100%. When Reagan signed that stupid fucking amnesty bill in the 80s there were supposed to be huge fines for anybody caught hiring illegals after. What happened? Nothing. The government has chosen not to enforce the laws it has enacted.
Well, what would have happened is that pretty much every small business owners would have had to declare bankruptcy
No. I am not surprised that you don't understand the nature of level field competition. I didn't file for bankruptcy and I never hired any of the fucks. I am sure it cost me money, though, because I was competing for work with people who did.
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Re: working as an illegal back breaking work [Re: zappaisgod]
#21702802 - 05/20/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Well tell me why they're finding work here? And, here's a radical thought - why don't we crack down on those that hire them? No jobs, no Mexicans it seems to me.
I agree 100%. When Reagan signed that stupid fucking amnesty bill in the 80s there were supposed to be huge fines for anybody caught hiring illegals after. What happened? Nothing. The government has chosen not to enforce the laws it has enacted.
Well, what would have happened is that pretty much every small business owners would have had to declare bankruptcy
No. I am not surprised that you don't understand the nature of level field competition. I didn't file for bankruptcy and I never hired any of the fucks. I am sure it cost me money, though, because I was competing for work with people who did.
I said that because when you see everybody else hire illegals and get rich faster, some people would be like "fuck it, their doing it, I'm doing it". Which is why if there would have been an immediate crackdown, too many people would hav egotten caught at once.
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