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"that what exists is that which....."
    #1536044 - 05/10/03 01:15 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

"..... by its very nature causes itself to exist."

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regfjxe/consc.htm

Don't look now, it's an MD claiming consciousness cannot be merely a product of neural connectors/brains.


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    #1536047 - 05/10/03 01:18 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Sounds similar to Spinoza


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Re: [Re: NariusFractal]
    #1536080 - 05/10/03 01:31 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Actually I think that quote came from Spinoza.


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Re: "that what exists is that which....." [Re: ]
    #1536442 - 05/10/03 05:55 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Yes, that is correct. Nice link, 5 shrooms for the thread.

Cheers,


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    #1537064 - 05/10/03 03:32 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

It seems a bit too obvious.

It's like saying "This rock is here because it is here."


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What if all the world you think you know,
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    #1537098 - 05/10/03 03:56 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

There is no other reason.

There's nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be. It's easy.


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Re: [Re: Revelation]
    #1537315 - 05/10/03 06:10 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

So if I get arrested for weed then I'm supposed to be in jail? Maybe according to the government...


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    #1537377 - 05/10/03 06:43 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Wow, I love it :laugh:
Great link!

Its going under favorites and I'm gonna read it every night before I go to bed :tongue:


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    #1537476 - 05/10/03 07:28 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Look man, you can't argue with the beatles. Listen to the last 23 seconds of the last song on "Sgt. Pepper".


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Re: "that what exists is that which....." [Re: ]
    #1537970 - 05/10/03 11:34 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

"..... by its very nature causes itself to exist."




So what falls under this category?


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    #1538151 - 05/11/03 12:47 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

It's so simple that its confuzing!


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Re: [Re: Murex]
    #1538490 - 05/11/03 04:25 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Welcome to the machine.


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Re: [Re: tak_old]
    #1548442 - 05/14/03 04:43 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

just got around to reading the first half of that, and he does in fact mention spinoza. Nice.

Spinoza's ethics always intrigued me


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Re: "that what exists is that which....." [Re: ]
    #1548660 - 05/14/03 05:53 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

From the link:

Quote:

We just need our paradigm of mindstuff to catch up with the rest of biology, which says we are symbiotic colonies, not single life units.





Great line.


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