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mushroomstudy
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Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009
#9815021 - 02/17/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ever taken Psychedelic Mushrooms? You are needed for a study exploring psychedelic mushrooms and spirituality. It involves only one questionnaire (approximately 15-20 minutes) and participation is VOLUNTARY AND ANONYMOUS If interested please go to www.mushroomstudy.com -or contact Kevin Bunch, M.A. at mushroomstudy@gmail.com.
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: mushroomstudy]
#9815210 - 02/17/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Professional school, eh. Interesting.
and... heh.
"Any participant who experiences distress as a result of their participation in this study will be entitled to one free consultation with a licensed therapist."
furthermore
"If you have ever been hospitalized or sought treatment from a medical or psychological professional due to negative effects from taking any psychedelic drug do not complete this questionnaire."
Why? Seems to be skewing the data to one side.
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Edited by Kickle (02/17/09 04:20 PM)
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: mushroomstudy]
#9815319 - 02/17/09 04:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushroomstudy said: Ever taken Psychedelic Mushrooms? You are needed for a study exploring psychedelic mushrooms and spirituality. It involves only one questionnaire (approximately 15-20 minutes) and participation is VOLUNTARY AND ANONYMOUS If interested please go to www.mushroomstudy.com -or contact Kevin Bunch, M.A. at mushroomstudy@gmail.com.
I didn't know mushrooms were connected with spirituality.
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Zanthius
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: mushroomstudy]
#9815346 - 02/17/09 04:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushroomstudy said: Ever taken Psychedelic Mushrooms? You are needed for a study exploring psychedelic mushrooms and spirituality. It involves only one questionnaire (approximately 15-20 minutes) and participation is VOLUNTARY AND ANONYMOUS If interested please go to www.mushroomstudy.com -or contact Kevin Bunch, M.A. at mushroomstudy@gmail.com.
I am appreciating that you are making the spiritual experiences gained from the use of magic mushrooms more known to the scientific community.
I wish more people knew that ethanol is a much more harmful drug than magic mushrooms, and that ethanol makes people more primitive, while magic mushrooms make people more enlightened.
Edited by Zanthius (02/17/09 04:39 PM)
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9815550 - 02/17/09 05:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9815584 - 02/17/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zanthius said: ethanol makes people more primitive, while magic mushrooms make people more enlightened.
Primitive ain't always a bad thing. Just like any drug, ethanol is excellent in moderation and harmful when abused.
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: mushroomstudy] 1
#9818127 - 02/18/09 01:39 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybin research needs to be done, but for too long the wrong people have been asking the wrong questions! (i.e.; "Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial and sustained personal meaning and spiritual significance".) This study by R.R. Griffiths, W.A.Richards, U. McCann, R.Jesse, was a joke. Also by asking the shroomery "Ever taken Psychedelic Mushrooms", means one of two things. You have never taken shrooms or...
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818265 - 02/18/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zanthius said: I wish more people knew that ethanol is a much more harmful drug than magic mushrooms, and that ethanol makes people more primitive, while magic mushrooms make people more enlightened.
I heard that butt sex makes people gay
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Zanthius
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9818430 - 02/18/09 04:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mod Edit: P&S isn't OTD. Read the rules of this forum before posting again. Consider this your one warning.
Edited by Diploid (02/18/09 06:43 AM)
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818500 - 02/18/09 05:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where was I mentioning anything about me in there? Are you unaware that you're not allowed to make any personalisms in this forum? My remark was being a sarcastic one, as a reaction to your statement that mushrooms make you spiritual and ethanol make you primitive. It is foolish to think that any of these substances can make you be in any other way than you already were, since all they do is bring to the surface aspects of your personality.
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Zanthius
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9818504 - 02/18/09 05:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where was I mentioning anything about me in there? Are you unaware that you're not allowed to make any personalisms in this forum? My remark was being a sarcastic one, as a reaction to your statement that mushrooms make you spiritual and ethanol make you primitive. It is foolish to think that any of these substances can make you be in any other way than you already were, since all they do is bring to the surface aspects of your personality.
That might be part of what they are doing, but not necessarily all they are doing, especially regarding psilocybin.
My remark was also sarcastic, as a reply to your sarcastic remark. Ain't I allowed to speak in the same way as you are doing?
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: C.M. Mann]
#9818508 - 02/18/09 05:30 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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C.M. Mann said: Psilocybin research needs to be done, but for too long the wrong people have been asking the wrong questions! (i.e.; "Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial and sustained personal meaning and spiritual significance".) This study by R.R. Griffiths, W.A.Richards, U. McCann, R.Jesse, was a joke.
Why? I think it was quite good.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818524 - 02/18/09 05:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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That might be part of what they are doing, but not necessarily all they are doing, especially regarding psilocybin.
Elaborate.
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My remark was also sarcastic, as a reply to your sarcastic remark. Ain't I allowed to speak in the same way as you are doing?
No, it is not the same thing. My remark was bashing your statements, while yours was a personalisms. Personalisms aren't allowed in this forum. Also, your reply had didn't have anything to do with the subject.
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Zanthius
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9818538 - 02/18/09 05:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: No, it is not the same thing. My remark was bashing your statements, while yours was a personalisms. Personalisms aren't allowed in this forum. Also, your reply had didn't have anything to do with the subject.
Well, I didn't see any relevance between your remark and the subject, and I just asked you a question according to what you said in the remark. If you don't want people to ask you personal questions, then don't show your personal feelings in your remarks.
When you are saying that you are sad because butt sex makes people gay, then you should expect that people ask you why you are sad about it. That is completely natural.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818548 - 02/18/09 06:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zanthius said: Well, I didn't see any relevance between your remark and the subject, and I just asked you a question according to what you said in the remark. If you don't want people to ask you personal questions, then don't show your personal feelings in your remarks.
Posting an emoticon doesn't equal displaying one's feelings, and, like I already said, personalisms aren't allowed in this forum. You either respect these rules, or get the fuck out and go whine in the anonymous forum.
Also, you have failed to answer this:
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That might be part of what they are doing, but not necessarily all they are doing, especially regarding psilocybin.
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9818562 - 02/18/09 06:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: Posting an emoticon doesn't equal displaying one's feelings, and, like I already said, personalisms aren't allowed in this forum. You either respect these rules, or get the fuck out and go whine in the anonymous forum.
Feel free to throw me out. Show me what a dominant girl you are, and what happens to guys that don't obey your rules.
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MushroomTrip said: Also, you have failed to answer this:
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That might be part of what they are doing, but not necessarily all they are doing, especially regarding psilocybin.
Why don't you explain to me why psilocybin and ethanol ONLY brings to surface aspects of your personality instead?
Edited by Zanthius (02/18/09 06:20 AM)
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818593 - 02/18/09 06:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well this thread went downhill fast.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818596 - 02/18/09 06:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Feel free to throw me out. Show me what a dominant girl you are, and what happens to guys that don't obey your rules.
These aren't my rules, these are the forum rules.
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Why don't you explain to me why psilocybin and ethanol ONLY brings to surface aspects of your personality instead?
I don't have to - you made a claim and it's your responsibility to back it up.
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9818605 - 02/18/09 06:59 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: I don't have to - you made a claim and it's your responsibility to back it up.
Actually you made the claim that psilocybin and ethanol only brings to surface aspects of your personality.
Well, the prime reason why I believe that psilocybin and ethanol doesn't only bring to surface aspects of your personality, is because it does some similar things to all people. If ethanol and psilocybin only brought to surface aspects of your personality, then there would be no similarity between the experiences of different people while influenced by these substances.
But even if it only brings to surface aspects of your personality, then ethanol brings to surface the primitive aspects of your personality, while psilocybin brings to surface the higher aspects of your personality. The more you bring to surface the primitive aspects of your personality, the more these primitive aspects will color your sober state of mind. And the more you bring to surface the higher aspects of your personality, the more these higher aspects will color your sober state of mind.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Psilocybin Mushroom Study 2009 [Re: Zanthius]
#9818620 - 02/18/09 07:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, the prime reason why I believe that psilocybin and ethanol doesn't only bring to surface aspects of your personality, is because it does some similar things to all people. If ethanol and psilocybin only brought to surface aspects of your personality, then there would be no similarity between the experiences of different people while influenced by these substances.
You're talking as if peoples' psyches and brains would differ so much that it is impossible for them to have very similar feelings, thoughts, and emotions. Guess what, people are being able to report exactly similar experiences even without drugs, and when we're talking about specific situations and contexts, such as being in love, or experiencing fear, or confusion, these experiences seem to be, following their descriptions, almost the same for everyone. Even though no two humans are exactly the same, the things that they have in common outnumber the differences.
Also, not ALL the people using psychedelics have the same experiences. There are people who experience bliss and people who experience terror, there are people who don't change their behavior a bit as a result of a psychedelic experience, there are people who choose to improve their personalities, ans there are people who even choose to harm others or themselves, after tripping. How do yoy explain all these variations?
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But even if it only brings to surface aspects of your personality, then ethanol brings to surface the primitive aspects of your personality, while psilocybin brings to surface the higher aspects of your personality. The more you bring to surface the primitive aspects of your personality, the more these primitive aspects will color your sober state. And the more you bring to surface the higher aspects of your personality, the more these higher aspects will color your sober state.
Experiencing primitive aspects of one's personality doesn't have to be a bad experience and it doesn't implicitly mean that the result of experiencing these primitive states will have any negative effects. I think that a human being needs to be completely aware of the entirety of their being, completely accepting to every detail no matter how inconvenient it might feel, and aware of the fact that none of these aspects are fully defining who they are. There has to be a balance between the primitive and the "higher" aspects of oneself, and in my opinion it is detrimental to the psychological health to ignore certain traits that we possess.
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