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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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Aminata muscaria, is supposed to taste like chicken, or steak! However if not cooked right, can lead to pain.

In my experience though it tasts like nothing, but does smell like chicken seasoning.


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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: Swami]
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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: World Spirit]
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It is a very safe conclusion that this was done by design to limit how much we consume and how frequently we consume.

Though a distinct possibility, that's too big of a jump to make.


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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: whiterasta]
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Eat salmon.........The other "pink" meat;)
WR


LOL


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: World Spirit]
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Swami ~ Try listening for once.
It is very important to start off a post with a personalization.

Now lets's check your reading skills:

the Mimosa Hostilis plant was not known to be used as an Ayahuasca admixture until the last decade or two.

The Jurema Tree, known botanically as M. hostilis, has been used for centuries in northeastern Brazil as the source of an intoxicating drink, Vinho de Jurema."

An 1881 report of the Sert?es people states that they "extract from jurema a certain kind of intoxicating wine with delightful effects......they strip off the bark and after boiling it for 24 hours, they add honey to counteract the astringency of the inebriating drink which is kept for later use".

Is Vinho de Jurema the same as Ayahuasca or used as an admixture? No! Actually its use said to be extinct today (Schultes and Hofmann 1980).


Now let's check your math:

has been used for centuries
Millions of years minus two hundred years = millions of years.

Even if these items were new to human taste buds
Nice addition of an escape clause after making your faulty point.


Now let's check your reasoning abilities:

It is a very safe conclusion that this was done by design to limit how much we consume and how frequently we consume.
Which is why chocolate is so bitter (as I previously mentioned), yet is consumed in prodigious amounts throughout the world. Therefore using Enterology (a special form of logic) it is a very safe conclusion that chocolate was designed to be ingested infrequently.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: Swami]
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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: infidelGOD]
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aspirin can help people at risk for heart disease, that's a lot of people..



I greatly doubt that. They are just used against headaches and gets you feeling light headed.Or do you have anything on the net to show me?


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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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They are most likely bitter to prevent animals from eating them so they can spread more spores.

Personally, I don't think psilocybin is really a defense. I'm willing to bet that most animals that eat (all kinds) mushrooms smell them first and eat if on instinct. But, that's a whole other discussion that has been done before.

Should we eat them or shouldn't we? I'll put aside whether or not they're used for the right reasons. But psilocybin exists. If it wasn't meant to be, it wouldn't be. Redefine "god" to just that higher force, light, why anything exists. So existence gives us these physical laws that are why this world is like this. These physical laws even boil down to our brains and emotions. Psilocybin is no exception to these laws. So if it's already happened (all of us are here in the psychedelic experience which isn't confined to the trip) we should, as long as there is respect for the psilocybin mushrooms.






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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
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Jazz--> http://www.aspirin.org/consumer.html

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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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My cum tastes bitter.

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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: billy cuts]
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thx for the read!


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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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I belive that plants that are bitter tasting are doing this in an attempt to stop any thing eating them, so they get a chance to reproduce, which is a hard thing to
do from a digestive tract.
Take mushroom for example,they dont tast to good hu.And cant reproduce them selfs as well if there picked for cosumption, so to them its a self protection thing,
which we bypass as we know different and eat them for our own selfish needs.

This is a odd thing though, as we benifit from them, and they certainly benifit from us(i have grown and spread further many none native species)So like many things in this world, there is no real right and wrong way, just the survial of the fittist fastest mutators.


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Re: Are we supposed to eat psychoactive mushrooms? [Re: Paid]
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Bitterness is a sensation of the presense of alkaloids, as sour is the sensation of the presence of an acid.

The fact that it is one of only 4 tastes our mouth can detect, and that it is a 'bad' taste, must mean it is generally not a good idea to eat foods with a high alkaloid content, because it's not. Most bitter plants are to some degree toxic, causing anything from indigestion to death. So being able to detect that taste is/was helpful enough to our survival for it to evolve, even if it keeps us away from a minority of neutral or even useful plants.
That's what our brains are for.

Mushrooms don't taste bitter, anyway; though the active ingredient would if isolated.

All the various forms of Ayahuasca do, Mimosa or not, as do all mescaline containing cacti- as do most completely inactive cacti... as does cocaine and coffee and chocolate...

It's a very crude warning mechanism, and I wouldn't read too much into it.

Of course it's a safe conclusion for Enter that this was done by design because he has already come to the conclusion everything was done by design. It's certainly not a safe conclusion for anyone with an interest in science and rational thought.

But back to the 'philosophy' of this question... "supposed to," what does that mean, anyway, when applied to biology? All we are really supposed to do as organisms is reproduce ourselves. Now that we have free will and knowledge, we don't even have to do that unless we choose to.

We're not "supposed to" do anything at all!
It's a concept that is only applicable within a society. Most of society's inabitants have forgotten that there is any difference between society and reality, that is, we are fully domesticated. Our first life experience is our parents telling us what we are allowed to do "sit still" "be nice" "don't yell" "don't touch that" etc. Then inevitably we grow up and leave our parents, immediately replacing them with police and politicians and corporate advertising executives; "drive slowly" "pay your taxes" "be productive" "don't do drugs" "drink Pepsi" "watch MTV..."

Eventually we- ok, some of us- lose respect for the police and politicians and their various puppetmasters and see it all for the silly game it is, yet we still need some authority to validate us. It's ingrained in us. I mean there must be some point to all this... right?

We turn to God for the answers.

God is silent.

So we put words in His mouth (with the best of intentions, of course) based on what we think is OK to do. Which is the same as doing what we think is OK, but feels safer and less selfish when you externalize it. Better yet, "God's" wishes (and if your concept of God looks anything like humanity's Collective Unconscious then this may not be far from the mark) can be appropriated by all the parents and politicians of the world to give their own arguments-from-authority more weight.


OK, you're still reading because you want an answer?
No. We're not supposed to eat psychedelics because tripping hogs too many CPU cycles. There's no idle space left in our brains to run extra programs, our bodies are producing little or no net energy, and even the perceptual aftereffects are so processor-intensive that your entire sector is running at a loss for a week or so. They want us to drink alcohol, because they can just put our pod's construct generator in power-save mode for the night and we won't even notice. But it takes a whole frat house full of drunks to compensate for one tripper, and that's why society is set up to punish, discredit and marginalize them to such an extent.

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