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Invisiblebuttonion
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Observable change after a mushroom experience
    #730698 - 07/08/02 07:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I know this is not a new topic, but it is something I think about often. A lot of people think that mushrooms have such great potential to change life for the better, but do they really? Do mushrooms have the potential to change your life, to help you in reaching some ideal that you tacitly aspire to achieve (whatever it may be)?

But I am asking this from an empirical standpoint. Not just have you noticed the rut you are in or have had a peek of what life should be like, but have you actually taken action to get out of the rut, to move toward whatever your ideal is, and for longer than just a few days after shrooming. I'm talking about a behavioral and long-term change.

I personally feel I have gained several meaning insights into myself on shrooms, into my motivations especially. But I get frustrated when I realize that I have fallen back into the same old rut of thinking and acting. For myself, my ideal is something approaching Buddhist non-attachment. Let me know what you think...


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Re: Observable change after a mushroom experience [Re: buttonion]
    #730756 - 07/08/02 08:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, i know what u mean,,, I think. For me there is always that afterglow for about the next week or so, where u dont look at things as you usualy do, u dont talk to people as you usualy do. All things are different. Now as for a lifes ideal, I'm not sure i really have one or ever will. Its nice to expierience new and different things. I think no one should get locked into a certain ideal or way of life. As for a long term change,. Think about when you first ate mushrooms. How you were then, and how u are now. Now can u honestly say that your the same then as u are now? I know i cant. And i dred the day that i will ever return to that state. Now i dont think it all is standing on mushrooms. Its the person too.
Or something like that......


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Re: Observable change after a mushroom experience [Re: buttonion]
    #730821 - 07/08/02 08:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What you describe happens with any kind of awakening, whether shroom induce, meditation or psychoanalysis.
The next step is action, knowledge is only useful is you can apply it, and to answer you, yes I felt that shrooms helped me change, In my case I use to dream in moving into the country, one day I tripped on shrooms, and I so that nothing was stopping me only my self, so I took action and left the city.
Now timing is every thing, if you don't take advantage of the insight, you will fall asleep again.
The other behavior change that I felt done by the shrooms, is laughter, I never use to laugh like I laugh now, it comes from way inside me, is like the shrooms opened up something that was repressed in me.
It is also helping me understand Love, love as a force a universal energy that beacons me to join with it.


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Re: Observable change after a mushroom experience [Re: LOBO]
    #731177 - 07/08/02 11:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, timing is very important...
As I'm sure many have said before me, I don't believe knowledge or wisdom comes directly from the mushroom, but rather the mushroom opens up new possibilities that otherwise would be hidden from sight. I am sure these possibilities can also open up by other means, but tripping seems the right tool to use if you want to be quickly shown something and then I think you must try to reach a similar state without the mushroom's help... Otherwise you will fall back asleep and be back in the hole you started in.
Also, mushrooms are especially good for the repression of my ego. I enjoy being humbled.


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Re: Observable change after a mushroom experience [Re: buttonion]
    #731304 - 07/08/02 12:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I don' t know if psychoactive mushrooms have changed my life, because I don' t know how my life would be if I had never taken them...hehe, this is Ini-logic

But seriously, I think the shrooms gave me some good hints. One name I gave them is "the openers of the ways". They helped me breaking trough some mind-loops, seeing things from the "third side".
But still a long, winding road leads from a thought to an action.

Thought to Mind
Action to Body
The Body is liable to gravity
The Mind is not
Physics?


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