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 CockyMandrill
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 Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom  [Re: deep_umbra]
#1373396 - 03/13/03 03:36 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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ITs just sad seeing people using something that can teach you anything you want to know and show you how to live a better life to just waste some time cause there bored.
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: CockyMandrill]
#1374366 - 03/14/03 12:54 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do you know if someone else's time is wasted of not? Seem rather presumptious that you know what is best for another. Doesn't the mushroom teach not to judge?
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: CockyMandrill]
#1374375 - 03/14/03 12:59 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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swami, i know you've eaten mushrooms lots a times. And a side of the point you've made: did you never ever experience some mindgobbling revelations that, in some degree, manifest itself either positively or negatively in your normal life??
I myself am as much of a sceptic as you in many 'paranormal', 'UFO' or whatever kind of theories some ppl present here as absolute 'truths', but never ever would I degrade the profound life-altering mushroom-experiences to some 'pretty fractal visions'. Are these experiences 'sacred'?? Well to ME they are, and that is what counts isn't it?? But sacred in the way a mothers' love is sacred, sacred as i see the beauty of nature. Sacred as i charish my filosphical tendencies to view the world. Sacred, i guess, as in something i cannot grasp, but nevertheless is very right-down-to-earth, not something 'supernatural'......
exuse my english by the way....it's not bad...but its certainly not great either.. 
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: Swami]
#1374568 - 03/14/03 02:54 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are conflating respect with reverence.
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: quemo]
#1374747 - 03/14/03 03:58 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are these experiences 'sacred'?? Well to ME they are, and that is what counts isn't it?? But sacred in the way a mothers' love is sacred, sacred as i see the beauty of nature. Sacred as i charish my filosphical tendencies to view the world. Sacred, i guess, as in something i cannot grasp, but nevertheless is very right-down-to-earth, not something 'supernatural'......
Well said, that's the way I would look at it. 
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: ]
#1374987 - 03/14/03 05:16 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you saying that I regularly perform conflatio?
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: ]
#1375024 - 03/14/03 05:27 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Conflating?
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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
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 Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: ]
#1375106 - 03/14/03 05:54 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms aren't sacred in themself, they are only sacred to individuals to wish to interpret them as such.
Exactly. Everything in this life is how you interprept it. Or how you decide to see it. I'm sure there are people that would trip to watermelon seeds if they thought it would make them trip (reminds me of the banana peel).
Swami, do you get more pleasure out of tripping on mushroomz or by trying to "prove" that they aren't a big deal? We are given the choice to either believe they are sacred or that they are not. So you decide if they are or not for yourself, and let other people decide for themselves too, instead of you telling them that they aren't.
Peace.
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I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
  
 
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: Murex]
#1375353 - 03/14/03 07:30 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Conflating?
Conflate 1. To bring together; meld or fuse: “They ingeniously conflated other characters and incidents to provide an op?ra-comique setting” (Andrew Porter).
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: ]
#1375425 - 03/14/03 07:57 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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"How do you know if someone else's time is wasted of not? Seem rather presumptious that you know what is best for another. Doesn't the mushroom teach not to judge? "
I do consider doing shrooms for just some laughs and visuals is a waste of time. Plenty things are a waste of time. Why do you think most American citizens spend so much money on entertainment? Its cause we have too much time on our hands and not much else to do besides find fun ways to make it pass.
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: Earth_Droid]
#1381863 - 03/16/03 04:38 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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hell no i wouldnt want to be on shrooms when i was about to die. that would be a definate negative setting and a bad trip.
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: 1stimer]
#1381947 - 03/16/03 05:25 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the reason they are considered "sacred" is because of their ability to open the mind to a greater awareness of existence. I am grateful for all my trips but...
I dont worship the shroom itself, i worship the divinity that the mushroom guided me towards
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I dont worship the shroom itself, i worship the divinity that the mushroom guided me towards
nicely put.
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: shaggy101]
#1381984 - 03/16/03 05:42 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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The mushroom itself is not what is sacred.
The state of mind achieved from teh mushroom is what I consider sacred, or special if you will. Its a state of mind I'm priveldged enough to experience, so you better believe Im thankful.
Food in itself is sacred to me as well, simply because its sustaining life. Life is the greatest gift I've recieved thus far, and whatever helps me keep it is sacred , or atleast very, very great to me 
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Re: Respecting the Sacred Mushroom [Re: 1stimer]
#1382103 - 03/16/03 06:54 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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hell no i wouldnt want to be on shrooms when i was about to die. [/quote
There'snever been a time when you thought you were abou to die or had gone "too far" when you were trippin hard? I think mushrooms could be an intense gateway to the *actual* death experience, but i agree, it might thrwo you off balance for the "final" exit.
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