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 Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening 
#522874 - 01/16/02 08:29 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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The past month has been such a rollercoasting of extreme feelings and experiences, that I thought I might share with you tonite a fraction of a grand story that we are all characters of. My mushroom experiences are limited to three voyages into higher vibrational frequencies, all of which had a profound effect on my "normal" life. As I reflect I notice a pattern in the spiritual path I have undertook...
Briefly - in the first "experience", I became aware of the walls around me. I became aware of the spirit of the Earth. I became aware of how I was connected with this massive, dreamy, loving Earth that is a knowing environment of this holy experience. This trip prepared me for what was to come... My second time on mushrooms, it felt like i was warped into an eternal dimension where so many things were revealed that I have trouble remembering it all. Im sure you all know what im talking about... During this trip I overcame ego completely, and opened all of my chakras, including the illusive crown chakra, which spun energy so fast around my obdula oblungota I felt like I was warping into hyperspace. I could feel energy spinning at the speed of light around my brain, I could feel some kind of field around myself. I experienced the true love, the light that I had forgotten since birth, the shining light of where I came from. In the eternal dimension I was boosted into space towards a planet which I now suspect as being Uranus (ruler of Aquarius). I approached this planet in spirit form and had telapathic conversation with it... It told me that I was part of It's flock It had sent to Earth for the particular purpose of shifting the Earth's consciousness, or dimension. (I cannot be for sure the EXACT meaning since it was communicated through my mind, which slightly alters any truth to my version of "truth") Also during this experience I met with some sort of Hindu serpent god/goddess that morphed my meditation posture into a "cock n ball" image (I was viewing myself out-of-body at the time). I suspect it to be Kali or Shiva, particulary since I recently discovered that according to Hindu legend, Kali was born on the same day as I (February 17th). Anyways, the third and most recent experience involved an intensely painful, fearful, and blissful Kundalini awakening. I was alone, afraid, and pitiful when i sent out "the call" for higher guidance to get me through my Fear into Love. (Be careful what you wish for, by the way..) Anyway, the serpent being came again (this time not in the form of Kali or Shiva, but more of an "alien" form) and revealed to me that the road I wanted was the hardest road of all, but with the most blissful rewards to reap. I agreed, and we made some sort of pact on a deeper level that I am still discovering the small print to 
Some of the small print revealed so far:
All the problems that come with kundalini energy, such as digestive problems, aching muscles, splitting headaches, pains in the left foot, intense depression, the terrifying fear that comes with confronting your fears, etc... But I wouldn't of made this pact if the rewards were not worth the pain. At some stages of the cycle (usually after I break down the fear-created walls around me) I experience a most blissful state in which my chakras bloom (mostly my heart chakra), I can see things with my Third Eye, and my Higher Self comes down to be here now, in this body, to help me along this path. Ive noticed that my pupils become large when my Higher Self is here, and that I feel liquidy warm sensations up and down my spine and in my chest (all of this occurs sober, keep in mind).
This brings me to my current state... I never imagined how hard this could be, to confront my innermost fears and embrace light and love with my entire being... but I'm getting there...
Sorry for writing a "life story", im sure most of you are tired of this kind of stuff by now, but I would be interested in hearing anything similar from anyone, so I figured I'd put part of my own story out for someone else's interest. Its comforting to know I am not alone in this and that I really am not going insane when so many around me are sleeping and Im trying to wake up. "Is there even something to wake up to?" my Fear asks, and that deeply instilled intuitive KNOWing that was ignited through the mushroom replies with a definite, comforting, "yes".
I will leave you all with a quote I found on the net today that sent those tingly feelings you get when you recognize serious synchronicity at work:
"The shaman seers of the Fourth World generally agree that those who tenaciously cling to the past will fall into mass insanity. The serpent power of the Aquarian Age is upon us. The Kundalini of Gaia is about to awaken. No one can avoid being affected. Most human beings may go out of their minds; others will go beyond mind." -John Hogue
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Edited by Adamist (01/26/02 11:25 PM)
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#522995 - 01/16/02 11:07 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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excellent! I know well the true love you experienced, and the opening up, realisation of the earth....interested in this serpent being you're talking about though, since recently i've been learning of serpent myths and gods showing up (often as the principle deity or bringer of knowledge etc) in cultures all over the world - seems like it could be leftovers from an older culture or something. maybe they were all fucked up on mushrooms and met your serpent friend? can you ask it if you ever meet again?
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 Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Traveller]
#523283 - 01/17/02 07:14 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kundalini is often referred to as the the serpent Goddess .And as a matter of fact, the word Kundalini has many translations, but roughly means "coiled thrice". This is speaking of her as an energy coiled 3 1/2 times around the base of your spine.This is our pure lifeforce. When awakened, Kundalini has a mind of her own and will take you places where you may not want to go even if you think you do. Many of the symptoms of an awakening resemble schizophrenia, bi-polar, and several other mental illnesses. I know many who have been institutionalized as a result of a spontaneous awakening. Your Mind should be pure, your body cleansed and purified,and your spirit strong. So many struggle for years to achieve this state. And then some of those try to wish it away...too late.Sometimes K is called Shakti and many have recieved Shaktipat to achieve their awakening. But be careful asking for her....
At the time I had no knowledge of Hindu or really any Eastern philosophies or religions.I had a spiritual path I followed that was perfect for me and had been a solitary Wiccan for 7 dedicated years. I myself had my awakening by grace(spontaneously) more than 2 years ago now.I have been hospitalized and diagnosed with Bi-polar disorder and put on meds. I no longer take them at the urgeing of the Kundalini energy herself. I was to become a vegetarian, celibate for 30 days, erect an alter to a chosen diety which would come to me in meditation,travel to the East and discontinue all chemicals in my body. I did all that was asked, except going to the East, and had some very unique things began to happen.
The diety turned out to be Shiva, who came to me as I was actually sleeping. My body was paralyzed and I felt the energy start as a ball of searing fire in my lower back. It traveled up my spine to my heart chakra where it opened slowly as my chest rose and expanded to an unbelievable size.I felt a flowering of sorts in my heart and tears poured from my eyes. The energy shot straight to my crown and exploded into tiny stars and bubbles that enveloped my prone body. I was then entered through the first and second chakras as if a sexual act were occuring.The intense body orgasm that followed was preceded by a penetration and the in and out movements of intercourse, with each thrust moving the energy higher back into my body up my spine. As the whole body orgasm occurred I was swept into an eternal sea of bliss that cannot be described in words. I came to know this as my true awakening moment .The moment when Shiva and Shakti were united within myself.I had obtained a pure connection within of both feminine and masculine energies. I had been awakened to my the fact that I was connected to the Devine..just as we all are. I now know Shiva and Shakti are the balance just as some believe Yin/Yang.
After this experience, I would spontaneoulsy fall into various asanas and perform strange finger/hand gestures that I know now to be mudras. They were for perfection, healing, understanding, protection,and acceptance.Much more than anyone will ever know has happened as a result of my awakening. I also have had books worth of automatic writings that contain information on my past lives, some minute future events and most importantly I was told that in this body/life I was reborn now into the living soul of Maharanyana and I was to travel to the East. I have yet to do this as I am still wondering if I am not a bit crazy!! :) I still ask "Why me? What makes me worthy?"
It can all be very overwhelming at times and have had many physical problems due to the energy in my body. But I have recieved gifts beyond words. The bliss I felt that night has not returned in it's entirety but I believe was given to me as a small show of what's to come for me if I follow the path that has been unfolded for me.
The serpent you speak of has been a symbol of enlightenment for many centuries. It does show up in almost every culture's spirituality in some form or another. Look to our very own symbol of healing-the caduceus. The symbol itself is the very epitome of Kundalini healing energy. It shows two serpents entwined and circleing up a staff. This is the spine with the two paths, ida and pingala, circleing upwards to the crown.
I am very happy to be able to share this with you here, but I also warn anyone who is actively seeking this...please do not! There is no way to stop it once it has been awakened. It can be dangerous and I urge you all to educate yourselves before trying to attain a goal that requires such responsibility. And if you, too, have been given the gift by grace...educate, seek a spiritual advisor or at least share your experiences with like minded people. It is important to realize what a world wide awakening is occuring as we speak. More people than you think have shared your very same or similar experiences. It is surely a sign of things to come. The world should be prepared. I believe it is a time in which many healers will come forth, both physical and spiritual.
Namaste,
~K~
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#523320 - 01/17/02 07:50 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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It was very nice to share your experience, I felt very similar things, my biggest teaching also was Love, I am beginning to understand what love really is, and that I have to open my self to it. I am no expert in charkas but I guess I have to open more my heart charka, and one time I have seen the spirit of the mushroom, and he said to me (not verbally) that he had things to show me, and gave me a wink. Don?t ask me to describe him because I can't (very strange looking).
I don't know if is the kundalini but the last time I felt a lot of energy surges in my intaier body
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 Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: LOBO]
#523622 - 01/17/02 03:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I experienced what might be considered a kundalini awakening when I attended a sahja yoga class. Youv'e probably heard of it. Anyway while listening to an indian instrument playing (sitar mabye, not sure) the whloe group had to hum at the same pitch as the instrument( the more experienced would not hum but repeat hindu words like Aum and others I don't remember).
I don't know how long I kept this up but when we finished my perception felt crystal clear I as more alert than I had ever been the room was bright and the sound clarity was amazing! My organs were shaking inside of me as if they possesed their own life (scary stuff when sober!!).
I don't attend these classes anymore, Ive since read up on kundalini yoga and to be honest it scares me, not because of some internet horror story but for a while after that one experience I had in the class a strange sexual perversion took me (for at least two weeks) though I didn't act on it totally, it scared me especially after these feelings had manifested themselves and I then read that this type of thing can happen.
I'm pissed with the people of sahja yoga for not informing me about this, mabye you can say I should have found out more before I attended a class but I believed it to be a simple meditation class and this is how they advertise it as well, there was no talk of awaking dangerously destructive powers just talk of what will be the reward of practice at the end.
Enlightenment... at what cost?
Love...By what definition?
I'm glad that someone found there to be balance in the system but for myself it threatened to destroy my very spirit and replace it with something I'd rather not think off.
P.s this post is to long to bother checking for spelling mistakes so sorry in advance. 
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 Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
#523626 - 01/17/02 03:51 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have to agree...there are many out there who instruct others in different forms of Yoga. Yoga is one of the things that bring body, spirit and mind together. What you experienced sounds like a chakra opening/alignment done with the different tones and chants. Someone should have helped you close them again when you were finished as it sounds like you wandered around with a wide open first and second chakra!! YES that can be very unsettleing. I had to stop bellydancing and K.Yoga along with even meditations for about 8 months due to the "buzz" of energy that would wash over me in my classes or performances. Can you imagine dancing in front of a large crowd and suddenly find yourself waking as if froma dream not knowing what you had just done for the last 4 min 38 seconds???? WELL...it's scary and people look at you funny. It was an awesome performance, but not what the rest of the troupe were doing..they were a bit freaked, but as it was so beautiful...they just backed off and let me go solo. I'd NEVER had done that in my own mind...but K. tookover and moved with the music like I couldn't..or I should say...wouldn't let myself!!
I do think you are right about the cautionary note though.It is not for everyone...many are led to madness by this energy. I don't believe in seeking it. It should be given.
~K~
Edited by MystrysAbsynth (01/17/02 03:53 PM)
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: ]
#523766 - 01/17/02 06:50 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mystrys I can relate to the K. taking over in certain situations... In sexual situations my body is taken over much more intensely than before. I attempt to describe it as a serpent-like, magical, dreamy, hungerful mode that I shift to. Sometimes it will take over when listening to music, I start doing weird dances that reminds me only of maybe weird tribal/shaman movements.
On another note, has anyone who is living daily with Kundalini ever noticed any physical changes to the bone structure of the spine? Ever since it was awakened, the top of my spine has risen (6 clear humps), and the bottom-middle of my spine is also protruding. Sometimes I will get a constant energy-burning feeling in these areas, like they are growing intensely. When I feel the energy in me most, I can put my hand on my spine and feel it pulsating with liquidy warm energy... it reminds me of a child, or something living, inside of me, pulsing with life and energy.
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#524409 - 01/18/02 10:31 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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No Roger, there was recently a rule in all Haflas and public dance performances in the Seattle area that prohibits video taping without the dancers consent.Long story, a certain pervert, police and a restraining order or two!! LOL :)
BUT someone may have taken a few stills...I dunno..no one I know did though!! I kinda wish someone had been there from my family with a camcorder :( oh well. And I agree about the irresponsibility of those in a position of education in this sacred and POWERFUL form of ritual. Because, honestly, Yoga is a ritual performed to the Devine and in all it's glory can and WILL bring you closer if your intentions are pure. It has been used for centuries along with meditational practice to connect to the Devine within. I would be angry as well. You might do well to find a more seasoned instructor to help you through what has already begun. AND...I'm not even saying you necessarily NEED someone, it CAN be done on your own....but wouldn't it be a comfort to know what step to take next that will cause you the LEAST amount of discomfort and possibly pain or confusion??
Adamist:As far as physical changes go, many can occur once the serpent has awakened. Your spinal issues sound familiar and yet different. Everyone may have similar experiences, but each one of us being individuals makes our own reactions and afflictions(for lack of a better word) different. It does however sound like you would benefit from Reiki body work and even accupunture/pressure. The energies seem to be re-forming ,so to speak, your spine for easier flow. That is one reason a strong supple spine is important here. That is usually where stretching and yoga come in. Maybe you could seek out a holistic practitioner who can help with a spinal adjustment. If something is blocking the flow of energy going either way, you will feel pain. Even so, the burning sensation will remain as it is the liquid fire of the serpents energy rising through the channels.You should have a free flowing area through the Ida, Pingala, and Sushuma(the spinal channel basically). You may want to look into Reiki as I mentioned before.A good Reiki Master can put your energies "back into place".
I apologize for these posts and their length, but it is so unusual to find a positive common interest sometimes in these surroundings. This is a good place to come sometimes.
I do want to drop a final piece of knowledge that was passed on to me by a fellow Kundalite and also is spoken of in many written areas...It is much more difficult for the Male having a Kundalini awakening than for a Woman. Our sexual energies are already more internal and focused by nature as where a male's sexual enegies are forced outward as with the ejaculation factor. Therefore, being able to move my sexual energies upward from the depths to the higher chakras is not as difficult as it may be for a man because my nature is not to shoot my essence/energies out of my body , but to hold it in a nurture it. So do not feel discouraged if things are difficult, by nature you will have a harder time with the Serpent Goddess as she takes you to your connection with the Devine.
I can offer several good books for anyone needing some guidance or info on how to deal with or even if you just wanna know what is happening to you.There are many good websites that offer sound info and advice as well.
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: ]
#524465 - 01/18/02 11:25 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I haven't had nearly as profound effects as some of you, but while I was in the military I used to take the bus for 4 hours every weekend to get back home. Well, I read a small article about kundalini, and there was one simple excersise there. It was just sitting with your palms in your lap, and reciting "Mother Kundalini, please give me my self realization" or words to that effects.
I tried this out of boredom and curiosity while on the bus, and I must say I felt a small change. Mostly it was increased love and identification for my fellow travellers on the bus.
I'm joining a yoga class next week, I just hope I will have a better experience than some of you...
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Timeleech]
#524539 - 01/18/02 12:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Timeleech!!
Good luck in your class. :)
Who's to say it WILL happen to you. Not everyone is prone to this experience.Not everyone is ready or able to handle or accept it. Sometimes none of that matters anyway ;)
I have an aquaintance who calls me every so often because even her Kundalini yoga teacher and a dance teacher have both abandoned her after her awakening in K.Yoga class one day. They told her she was a distraction to others and that the other students were "freaked out by her" . Now this falls into our previous posts about responsibility, but it just shows you can have not only an instructor, but an entire class of people and only 1 outta the bunch gets anything as big as a true AWAKENING!! The K.Yoga teacher was the one who called me and asked if I would talk to this person. She had NEVER in her career encountered an "awakened" Kundalite. Doesn't that strike you as odd??? I immediately decided NOT to take a course from her I was considering. But I did talk with this lady who needed me. And we still talk...she still needs help. Because No One around her thinks she's sane. Her biggest prob is that she is a elementary school teacher. She fears for her career if she can't get a grip on her symptoms. Kinda hard to teach when you go into a spontaneous blissed out state in front of 25 4th graders!!!
I don't want you to get the wrong idea here.At least not about MY experience. It was overwhelming at first, I did think I was crazy, had and do still have some physical issues, BUT:
I would NEVER trade my mystical experiences for the world!! There is a quote by Sri Ramakrishna that some call the Yoga of Tears. It is short, sweet and to the point I think. He simply states:
Weep at least once to see God.
I can truly say I have FELT-with my entire being- the presence of the Devine. It DID bring me to tears.But tears with a feeling of floating in the Cosmic-consciousness as I like to call it. I came away in a total state of bliss for 3 solid days. The things that came from my lips in those 3 days were more profound, enlightened and experienced than I am. It was humbleing to be a "vessel" of pure Love and Light. I felt too, that increase in love, compassion, acceptance, patience and understanding for my fellow human. And all of this from someone who prefers her pets over people cuz pets are NEVER cruel for the sake of cruelty. And know nothing but devotion and love for you no matter what. It changed me and gave me back my faith in human nature. I also accept my, and everyone elses, flaws as just part of our nature. As something to be overcome on our path to enlightenment. I was given this gift and I feel I am in no position to complain of the torments that come with the bliss. I accept it good, bad or indifferent. But it is helpful to talk about it with others that understand( and don't think you are completely off you rocker!!)
I wish you peace and health and hope you, too, get what you are seeking from your experience.
Namaste,
~K~
Edited by MystrysAbsynth (01/18/02 12:45 PM)
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#524691 - 01/18/02 03:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: KeepAskingTime]
#526585 - 01/20/02 01:22 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is massage harmful or helpful to Kundalini blockage? Some days (like today) I feel like I've been hit by a semi truck... it seems like every part of my body aches, particularly the middle part of my chest/back. I know this is from blockages I myself have created, but would a massage be a good form of therapy or do I just have to remove the blockages manually? Its hard to embrace Light when self-pity is this hard to silence.
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#526601 - 01/20/02 01:53 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Usually a masage is VERY helpful, but be warned...I have known those who have let loose with a burst of energy from the spine that knocked the massaging partner on their ass. Even happened at a massage therapists office,too. You may have alot of pent up energies so find someone who knows what they're doing. Good luck! :)
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#528904 - 01/23/02 07:17 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kundalini, also known as the serpent-fire:
According to some esoteric teachings, this is something very serious. When awakened, changes to the person is at hand. One should never meditate upon the chakras, since the accumulation of energy can hurt the chakras. When meditating one should meditate upon abilities, rather than upon the corresponing chakra. Example: do not meditate upon your heart, but instead think and feel what love is. This is the only safe way - ability first, and the chakra will develop subconsciously and automatically.
Chemistry:
By chemical resemblence, psilocybin is activating crown (top of head) chakra. This means spirituality, and since crown chakra is intimatly connected to heart chakra, one can often be struck with love and compassion.
Personally, when I tried cubensis the first time, perhaps level 1 or 2, I felt the presence of the Devine. I was so happy, blissful, I cried. It was so beautiful. It felt like I was hugged by God. Serenity. Tranquility. Total peace. It was completly AMAZING. I never thought this was possible. The cognitive changes were mindblowing. I used to meditate before, but this was something else. My thoughts were on fire, and they went whereever I pointed out for them to go. It was like I knew everyting, anything I put my mind on. The result: I was jumping up and down, crying "I won the game. I won the f*cking game." [note: the game, being life]
And that was my first time.
What happened, I asked myself afterwards. Rene Descartes wrote that the portal to the soul is the pineal gland. This is the centre of the crown chakra. Psilocybin clearly opens this little door. However, this is breaking-and-entering. This is made with chemicals from without. This is not the proper way. However, when used go gain spiritual insight and love, I see no wrong with it, nor any real dangers (other than dissolved illusion, and face-to-face conversation with personal psychological complex/problems).
Seek knowledge, and you shall find it.
Gnothi seuton ("know yourself").
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: prema]
#529510 - 01/23/02 08:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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the only chakra i can seem to bloom while sober is my heart... have any advice for trying to open the crown?
I got a massage Monday, which was both painful and helpful. Every time she pressed her hands into my back it felt like something was biting into my skin... kind of like when a bee stings me. After she cleared the "toxin", as she called it, the pain disintegrated.
I think that the massage stirred things up with the Kundalini, because the last few nights I have been having really weird dreams (which I can't recall afterwards), and I will wake up with parts of my body on fire and/or paralyzed. This happened a couple of times last night.
Evolution can be a bitch sometimes
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Adamist]
#18520753 - 07/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how can i know that all this not insanity?
and why do we strive so much for this truth i no longer know if it actually is truth?
do these roads lead anywhere? and how do know that i want to embark on any of these journeys? i've scratched the surface... and being someone who doesn't folllow any religion, doubts the existence of a god, and refuses to blindly believe in anything, why does all this resonate with me and has some sort of truth that contradicts everything else i just said? we all fucking die. why do i want to give a fuck?
blabber, i know. this is the place for it i guess...
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But this moment of deliverance has not arrived,
and I have done nothing to hasten it.
Perhaps it doesn’t matter.
Perhaps I wasn’t meant to do anything.
In which case, I have succeeded admirably.
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Apollop]
#18520778 - 07/06/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good questions and imo no one has the answers. You're on your own and you must decide and your decision is only a best guess. Anyone who tells you different is a liar imo.
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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Rahz
Alive Again
Registered: 11/10/05
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Icelander]
#18521163 - 07/06/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how can i know that all this not insanity?
Have your own experiences and determine whether they are sane. As for whether the road leads somewhere, all roads lead somewhere. 
Most people work on their chakras without working on their 'chakras'. I agree with prema, that chakra meditation for the sake of chakra meditation probably isn't the best way of going about it. If the chakras are seen as challenges in and of themselves there's no metric for success since there's no 'highest energy output'. You never make it to the top because it's non-existent but you might blow a fuse trying to get there.
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why does all this resonate with me and has some sort of truth that contradicts everything else i just said? we all fucking die. why do i want to give a fuck?
People have desires despite the fact of death. Why this is I don't think anyone can say. It just seems to be how the animal life manifesting in this universe behaves (speaking mostly for myself and observation of other humans).
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Repertoire89
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Registered: 11/15/12
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Apollop]
#18521726 - 07/06/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apollop said:
how can i know that all this not insanity?
and why do we strive so much for this truth i no longer know if it actually is truth?
do these roads lead anywhere? and how do know that i want to embark on any of these journeys? i've scratched the surface... and being someone who doesn't folllow any religion, doubts the existence of a god, and refuses to blindly believe in anything, why does all this resonate with me and has some sort of truth that contradicts everything else i just said? we all fucking die. why do i want to give a fuck?
blabber, i know. this is the place for it i guess...
All the original posters in this zombie thread are probably dead by now
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Icelander
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Registered: 03/15/05
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Re: Kundalini, Mushrooms, and the Awakening [Re: Repertoire89]
#18521746 - 07/06/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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One can only hope.
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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