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Invisibleadrug

Registered: 02/04/03
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2166456 - 12/07/03 12:34 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely worth the read! Very interesting.

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Offlinepattern
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166463 - 12/07/03 12:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

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Altering your consciousness does not affect your genetics any more than you lifting weights will make your offspring more muscular.




True, but if you are in a culture of weight lifters, then the offspring with randomly better "weight lifting" genetics will be more successful.  That's natural selection.  Environmental pressures direct the course of evolution.  There doesn't have to be an affect on DNA.  Remember Darwin?  He knew nothing of DNA or genetics when he wrote The Origin of Species.

Same as with mushrooms.  If our ancestal primates lived in an area inhabited by psychedelic mushrooms, and ate them, that could create an environment where "higher" consiousness and creativity were selected to evolve.

:sun:


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OfflinePositronius
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: pattern]
    #2166480 - 12/07/03 12:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I read somewhere that cocaine and ecstacy damage your genetics...in otd I think


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: pattern]
    #2166491 - 12/07/03 12:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

True, but if...

If, if, if...

Sorry, the vast majority of women do not choose mates based on psychedelic usage, but on ability to protect and provide.


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Offlinepattern
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Positronius]
    #2166494 - 12/07/03 12:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

If its in OTD it must be true! :kiss:


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Offlinepattern
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166510 - 12/07/03 12:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sorry, the vast majority of women do not choose mates based on psychedelic usage, but on ability to protect and provide.




Being smarter gives a better ability to protect and provide.

:rolleyes:


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: pattern]
    #2166522 - 12/07/03 01:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Only two false assumptions in one short statement. Not too bad.

1. Women (in general) will choose a jock over a mathematician ANY DAY of the week.

2. There is ZERO evidence that psychedelics make one smarter as evidenced by the egregious grammar, spelling, and inability to clearly express thoughts that permeate this board.


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OfflinePositronius
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166527 - 12/07/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

-Women (in general) will choose a jock over a mathematician ANY DAY of the week

mmmmmm, I dont know about that. If we are going to level women to being single-minded creatures, they will go for money before anything else.


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Invisibleadrug

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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Positronius]
    #2166537 - 12/07/03 01:08 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like where this conversation is going at all. :smirk:

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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Positronius]
    #2166541 - 12/07/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

mmmmmm, I dont know about that.

Your ignorance tells us nothing about how mate selection works.


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OfflinePositronius
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166549 - 12/07/03 01:12 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

its not ignorance its a reality, being a "jock" is meaningless in advanced capitalism...duhhh.

you sound a tad bitter though.....


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OfflineBhairabas
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166556 - 12/07/03 01:15 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

You still haven't commented that your comment about perception having nothing to do with your DNA has been proved wrong by some very smart cookie's.. What do you have say about that?? Or do you just want to ignore it??
http://www.hofmann.org/papers/Human%20Genome%20-Cosmic%20Joke.html
Actualy read it this time..

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Offlinepattern
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166573 - 12/07/03 01:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Only two false assumptions in one short statement. Not too bad.




Wow. Only one under-handed insult in this post.

Quote:


1. Women (in general) will choose a jock over a mathematician ANY DAY of the week.




That is surprising, I didn't know there were jocks and mathematicians back then.

Quote:

2. There is ZERO evidence that psychedelics make one smarter as evidenced by the egregious grammar, spelling, and inability to clearly express thoughts that permeate this board.




For instance, saying "There is ZERO evidence" is a grammatical error.  Maybe you are right Swami, you've proved your own point for us.

:lol:


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: pattern]
    #2166591 - 12/07/03 01:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Wow. Only one under-handed insult in this post.
Calling an assumption false is not an insult any more than saying 2 + 2 = 5 is false.

That is surprising, I didn't know there were jocks and mathematicians back then.
Back when? Evolution is supposed to be on-going, not something that stopped long ago.

For instance, saying "There is ZERO evidence" is a grammatical error.
Wrong again. (Not an insult, but a fact.) Zero can be used as a noun or an adjective. Learning is fun, try it.

Webster

zero:

adj.
Of, relating to, or being zero.


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OfflineViaggio
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166639 - 12/07/03 01:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: adrug]
    #2166648 - 12/07/03 01:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like where this conversation is going at all.

Where is it going that you don't like? Does your not liking something change the "way things are"?


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OfflinePositronius
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166664 - 12/07/03 02:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

please enlighten us as to how "the way things are"

firstly,
women dont care about physique like they did in the past, physical ability is secondary to mental capacity or the ability to make chedder, that is obvious to anyone with half a fucking brain.

secondly,
women, like men, have the ability to transcend reproductive instinct in the sense that they regularily choose partners that arent the prime genetic candidates, nor are they good at making money.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Positronius]
    #2166760 - 12/07/03 02:43 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

that is obvious to anyone with half a fucking brain.

I am concerned with whole-brained people, not accident victims or genetic mutants.


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Offlinenubious
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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: orizon]
    #2166784 - 12/07/03 02:59 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

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DOes anybody believe in Adam and Eve anymore? 




Nope :smile:


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Invisibleadrug

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Re: Humans evolved with mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #2166798 - 12/07/03 03:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, not in the mood to argue today. :wink:

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