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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Politics Philosophy Religion
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What's the difference?

  They all seem the same to me.

Well it's really not them themselves.

It's how humans use them and for what ultimate goals.

And it seems all the same to me.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: Icelander]
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And there are people out there who aren't interested in those things at all. That kinda makes me :sad:


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: zouden]
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I'm not really interested much anymore. I'm realizing how much philosophy is manipulated by our ego and it's usually, unhealthy and unskillful needs. That's what this post is about. Control, power, fear behind most of it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: Icelander]
    #9033352 -

But that's interesting!


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: zouden]
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But old news to me.:shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: Icelander]
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Politics and religion might ultimately be identical in that both are instruments of social control, but how does philosophy fit in there?

One hardly sees the hordes lining up to march in front of Kant's banner.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: deCypher]
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The Cypher said:
Politics and religion might ultimately be identical in that both are instruments of social control, but how does philosophy fit in there?


politics = thought
religion = thought
philosophy = thought

it's all egocentric indulgence.

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: deranger]
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So anything we do is ultimately egocentric indulgence?


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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I'm not really interested much anymore. I'm realizing how much philosophy is manipulated by our ego and it's usually, unhealthy and unskillful needs. That's what this post is about. Control, power, fear behind most of it.

I think you're right.  The ego will run in circles to keep YOU from discovering what IS.... 

Happiness is always off in the distance.  You're becoming better.  Becoming somebody.

It is now.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: deranger]
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SyntheticMInd said:
The Cypher said:
Politics and religion might ultimately be identical in that both are instruments of social control, but how does philosophy fit in there?


politics = thought
religion = thought
philosophy = thought

Basically true IMO. We use these tools to try to feel like we are in control of things when we really can't be. And our emotional states are the result of that frustration.

it's all egocentric indulgence.



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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: deCypher]
    #9033560 -

The Cypher said:
So anything we do is ultimately egocentric indulgence?


i think some acts are more egocentric than others.

but it depends on what you consider the ego to be, really.

if you are your ego, then yes anything you do is egocentric, no?

is all doing of ego?

are you your ego?

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Re: Politics Philosophy Religion [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
We use these tools to try to feel like we are in control of things when we really can't be.


yep, nothing like securing the house of cards.

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