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 Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked...  [Re: EchoVortex]
#1212376 - 01/12/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spiritual minded peeps 3
Swami 1
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 Murex
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: Swami]
#1212513 - 01/12/03 04:29 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm with Freak on this one Swami.
How can you possably get anywhere when you deny the very thought of experiencing oneness with God/universe/higher consiousness?
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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: Murex]
#1212536 - 01/12/03 04:34 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really don't care how many peeps are with who or what the score is. Physical training techniques show demonstrable and repeatable results with no excuses, spiritual training techniques seem to have a limitless number of excuses why they fail to work.
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The proof is in the pudding.
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: Swami]
#1212548 - 01/12/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Physical does not = spiritual.
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Murex
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: Swami]
#1212582 - 01/12/03 04:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Physical training techniques show demonstrable and repeatable results with no excuses, spiritual training techniques seem to have a limitless number of excuses why they fail to work.
Take 5 dries grams and sit in a pitch black room for 6 hours- then tell me there was nothing spiritual there. 
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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
Edited by Murex (01/12/03 04:50 PM)
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: Swami]
#1212773 - 01/12/03 06:10 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really don't care how many peeps are with who or what the score is. Physical training techniques show demonstrable and repeatable results with no excuses, spiritual training techniques seem to have a limitless number of excuses why they fail to work
Sure there are working physical techniques, but there are also plenty of bullshit phsyical techniques that produce very little desirable effects. All of them produce some effect, but only a few are truely effective in the long run. The same goes for spiritual techniques. There are some that work, and many that do not. Meditation is consistently effective, while prayer is rarely effective. Its like the difference between Aikido and Tae-bo.
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Remy
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Re: If Religion and/or Spiritual Techniques Really Worked... [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#1212787 - 01/12/03 06:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey there Remy.....without the existence of a personal "ego" imo, there would be no springboard into supra conciousness/enlightenment/nirvana etc...i believe there has to be a point(personal ego) at which the individual can in fact overcome his/her personal "identity" in order to experience the the universal love/wisdom/conciousness that (i believe) exists within us all....i believe the ego does serve a purpose, if only to build a substantial ground(relatively) upon which an individual can transcend/transform it.......just some random thoughts
This is how I have always viewed it, but as of late, i have been speculating on whether or not there is such thing as a good ego. Once we can control the ego, should we try to keep it under control, or should we use it in a way to make our spirit prosper?
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