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InvisibleSwami
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Skeptics are more powerful than Believers
    #1075948 - 11/22/02 06:11 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, I did NOT just make this up. The "believers" have said this countless times.

Whenever some mystical power is claimed, they whine, "We can't show you (substitute power-of-the-month) because your disbelief prevents it from happening (you mean my lack of gullibility disallows your duping me).

Yes folks, skeptics are the kryptonite that strips bare the superpower of BelieverMan!

BelieverMan: Able to leap logic in a single bound. Recites his excuses faster than a speeding bullet.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1075953 - 11/22/02 06:23 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Right on!    :grin:  :wink:
Love and compassion to the poor skeptic...

No one can be forced to be free


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1075958 - 11/22/02 06:33 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, stop right there with the BelieverMan thing...

You've got copywritable ideas that should be made into a comic strip immediately.

Although I am a bit skeptical of the "know-it-all" tone put forth in your post ... :wink:

 


Edited by dee_N_ae (11/22/02 06:36 AM)


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: dee_N_ae]
    #1075962 - 11/22/02 06:40 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Can you draw? I need a partner.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1075967 - 11/22/02 06:52 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hell, anyone can make a crudely rendered Super Hero and an Arch Nemesis look good with Photoshop.  :smirk:

So who's the super villian?
Doctor Logic D. Evil?
   


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1075974 - 11/22/02 07:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Of course Swami doesnt have any beliefs!! he is far too sophisitcated for that!


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: GazzBut]
    #1075986 - 11/22/02 07:11 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Believers for me are people who have alot of "emotion" invested in a set of opinions, obviously they dont see them as opinions thats what makes them believers. They like to state their beliefs over and over again and arent really open to the idea that they might be wrong. Even in the face of contradictory evidence.

Swami you seem to invest alot of energy and emotion into your opinions!

Aha! a charlatan Skepric art thou. To the ducking stool at once, mayhap we can still save your soul.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076063 - 11/22/02 08:39 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Swami you have just as much ego attached to your opinions and yes, beliefs (non belief is a belief) than any "Believer". 

PS- Your post was made at 11:11.  :grin:


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076079 - 11/22/02 09:04 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If someone tells you that, than you are right. I just don't know how you didn't meet someone with special powers.. They are really a few.. but in all your journeys.. :smile:
  I said this before..but I will do it again. I HAVE SEEN A CHINEESE MASTER curing a more ladies at once! THey had tumors as big as even tenis ball. He didn't even touch them!! He explains the usage of Chi(qi) in this. He did this very quiqly. Maybe you can come also. He does this every few times per year during a course.
    Maybe this is something made up by mind. But if mind needs extra help to make his powers stronger than it's good. 


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Adamist]
    #1076435 - 11/22/02 11:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Swami you have just as much ego attached to your opinions and yes, beliefs (non belief is a belief) than any "Believer".
Sorry, but non-belief is NOT a belief. Show me something contrary and I will change my stance. A true believer will NEVER change his stance no matter what he is shown.

Also, if I make a claim I can back it up. I don't weasel out.

PS- Your post was made at 11:11.
And all of the other posts were NOT. Even though you display the grinning icon, this is how the believer's mind operates. He selects only data to reinforce his position and rejects; no reject is too strong a word; other data doesn't even register or if it odes, is quickly forgotten.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076500 - 11/22/02 12:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Whenever some mystical power is claimed, they whine

Tell us, what are you doing at a spirituality board if you despise it so? Does it just boost your ego making all these useless posts? Why not post at a science board with no spiritual talk whatsoever?

Just because spirituality failed you so miserably do you feel so bitter you need to naysay it for everyone else?

Get a grip swami.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Adamist]
    #1076507 - 11/22/02 12:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Swami you have just as much ego attached to your opinions and yes, beliefs (non belief is a belief) than any "Believer"

He has far, far more ego. I rarely see such posts by "Believers". Swami makes these ego-driven posts all the time.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076517 - 11/22/02 12:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

A true NON believer will never change his stance regardless of what he is shown...Now I don't know you, but it seems to me Swam as if you have convinced yourself that you are completely correct in every instance, and it would destroy you to admit that for once maybe you don't have all the answers...From some of the stuff i've read in your posts, ie. tarot experience, and others, how can you still have SO MANY doubts about certain phenomina...you're like a die hard religious fanatic refusing to question his religion for fear of losing faith, and therefore direction...somebody must have REALLY taken advantage of you some years ago..Im sorry friend, but we're not all schizophrenic


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Xlea321]
    #1076554 - 11/22/02 12:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I had a mushroom vision, and in it, God told me my mission was to tear away the veil of ignorance and become a debunker (I used to be a bunker).


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076556 - 11/22/02 12:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ive always thought that science and spirituality will ultimatly go hand in hand. Science is usually associated with skeptics and spirituality is associated with believers. This isnt necessarily true. I've found that most people who post in the spirituality board are skeptics, including me. I am a very spiritual person, but I am still skeptical and am open to anyone elses ideas. I feel sorry for those people with hardcore beliefs that have been drilled into their minds since day one, who block every other idea out. But there isnt anything that anyone can do to change this, and if this is what they choose to do, then fine. Also, if someone just comes out and say that religion is a scam and that people dont have souls and all believers ideas are bogus. Then that person is no better and no more right than that person with hardcore beliefs. Now some may say that proof will put all this mystical talk to shame, but I havnt seen any such proof.......yet. The best way to live in MHO is to relax and keep an open mind to different ideas.


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Xlea321]
    #1076574 - 11/22/02 12:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Just because spirituality failed you so miserably do you feel so bitter you need to naysay it for everyone else?

You already had your say in the "Analyze Swami" thread. You are totally fascinated with the where and why of what I do, is this infatuation?



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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076585 - 11/22/02 12:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

God told me my mission was to tear away the veil of ignorance
or maybe spread the veil of ignorance, so that people can tear it away themselves


Edited by raytrace (11/22/02 12:40 PM)


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: FatNug]
    #1076595 - 11/22/02 12:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

but it seems to me Swam as if you have convinced yourself that you are completely correct in every instance
Please show a post as an example. I generally use accepted sources rather than mere opinion or anecdote to back up my position(s).

how can you still have SO MANY doubts about certain phenomina
Because of issues such as non-repeatability, jumping to conclusions, interpretitive error, selective memory, alternate explanations and so forth...

Im sorry friend, but we're not all schizophrenic
I love all the free psychoanalysis on this board (and so do I!).


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076604 - 11/22/02 12:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Im sorry friend, but we're not all schizophrenic
I love all the free psychoanalysis on this board (and so do I!).
hahaha


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Re: Skeptics are more powerful than Believers [Re: Swami]
    #1076626 - 11/22/02 12:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

I love all the free psychoanalysis on this board (and so do I!). 


 

GOOD cause this is clearly dissasocitave identity disorder, not schizophrenia as you were jokingly alluding to... :crazy: maybe Swami DOESN'T know everything!!      Just yankin your chain :laugh:... though i do have to admit I'm not your biggest fan, it would  be pretty Damn boring around here without you Swam.     


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