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 Ravus
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 Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy 
#6197957 - 10/22/06 02:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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is an ancient enemy indeed.
"His disciples asked him: When will the dead rest? When will the new world arrive? He replied: That which you are waiting for has come, but you don't recognize it."
Obviously, the Second Coming is bullshit, an ancient misinterpretation that solidified into mythology even against numerous sayings of Jesus that deny it.
"Jesus said: You often wanted to hear the words I am speaking to you. You have no else from whom you can hear them. The days will come when you will seek me and you will not be able to find me."
Those days are already here, though the Church does not admit it. Jesus knew he was only human insomuch as he saw all human beings as "only humans", but humans with spirits and the potential to reconnect to the "Kingdom of God." The entire modern day Church turns Jesus into something he was not because they listen more to his ignorant disciples than to the man himself.
"Jesus said: Where they are three Gods they are Gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."
Jesus quite clearly asserts that the Trinity is polytheistic.
"Jesus said: People think, perhaps, that I have come to throw peace upon the world. They don't know that I have come to throw disagreement upon the world, and fire, and sword, and struggle."
Speaks for itself.
"Jesus said: If your leaders say to you "Look! The Kingdom is in the sky!" then the birds will be there before you are. If they say that the Kingdom is in the sea, then the fish will be there before you are. Rather, the Kingdom is within you and it is outside of you."
Isn't it ironic that the people who almost always proclaim that the "Kingdom is in the sky" are Jesus' self-proclaimed followers? Jesus clearly did not believe in the Christian Heaven or the Christian Second Coming supposedly linked to the "Kingdom of God," because he continuously asserts the Kingdom of God is in the present and that those are lies.
And Jesus' most enlightened quote:
"Jesus said to them: If you fast you will bring sin to yourselves, and if you pray you will be condemned, and if you give charity you will damage your spirits."
Clearly, the only way to end Christianity once and for all is to bring its Prophet back.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Ravus]
#6197970 - 10/22/06 02:13 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Absolutely a cool post....
I mean I don't know much about Christianity, I choose a more scientific approach to religion...
I wonder why Jesus's quotes were overlooked, or so it seems, in the modern church.
Isn't he the most important concept/person/being in the entire religion?
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Ravus]
#6197977 - 10/22/06 02:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ravus said:
Clearly, the only way to end Christianity once and for all is to bring its Prophet back.
They'd just crucify him again.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Silversoul]
#6197979 - 10/22/06 02:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Silversoul said:
They'd just crucify him again.
You cannot crucify awareness.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fireworks_god]
#6197992 - 10/22/06 02:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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The quotes used in the original posting are not found in the scripture.
Another minion of darkness is attempting to add to God's Word and pervert the gospel.
The doctrines expounded are nonsense.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198051 - 10/22/06 02:38 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another minion of darkness 
Down right corny. 
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198065 - 10/22/06 02:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
fivepointer said:
The quotes used in the original posting are not found in the scripture.
That's a relief. 
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Another minion of darkness is attempting to add to God's Word and pervert the gospel.
Calling another poster a "minion of darkness" in this forum contributes nothing to the discussion of ideas presented in this thread. Please refrain from addressing other members in this manner and instead focus on the ideas presented.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fireworks_god]
#6198108 - 10/22/06 03:02 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone who brings a false gospel, with quotes that are false, is unregenerate, spiritually dead and under the bondage of Satan. Such a person a minion of darkness by definition, it is merely a statement of fact, not a personal attack. I hope God may grant him repentence from such spiritual wickedness, and have the light of the gospel shine into his heart.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198118 - 10/22/06 03:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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fivepointer said:
Anyone who brings a false gospel, with quotes that are false, is unregenerate, spiritually dead and under the bondage of Satan.
Aw, don't be so hard on yourself. 
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I hope God may grant him repentence from such spiritual wickedness, and have the light of the gospel shine into his heart.
That's the spirit. Now go out there and repent your false teachings.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198127 - 10/22/06 03:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is not a statement of fact; it is an expressed judgement of the nature of another individual who is contributing in this forum. If you review the rules, this is not acceptable, as it does not benefit the discussion of the ideas presented. If you feel the need to label another poster in such a manner, feel free to contact them or anyone else through private messages, or post about it in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.
Not everyone in this forum holds the same viewpoint as you, and what may appear as a statement of fact to someone with your viewpoint will not appear as such to someone who does not hold your viewpoint.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Silversoul]
#6198135 - 10/22/06 03:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Silversoul]
#6198139 - 10/22/06 03:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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fivepointer said:
Anyone who brings a false gospel, with quotes that are false, is unregenerate, spiritually dead and under the bondage of Satan.
Aw, don't be so hard on yourself.
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I hope God may grant him repentence from such spiritual wickedness, and have the light of the gospel shine into his heart.
That's the spirit. Now go out there and repent your false teachings.
Pr 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198161 - 10/22/06 03:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO you understand nothing about and contribute nothing to this forum. You seem unable to understand this and so I must assume you lack some fundamental education and understanding or you have a severe learning disability. Since all this has been pointed out to you before. I suggest you go away until you can become a contributing member of this forum. Pretty please. 
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Icelander]
#6198167 - 10/22/06 03:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
fireworks_god said:
It is not a statement of fact; it is an expressed judgement of the nature of another individual who is contributing in this forum. If you review the rules, this is not acceptable, as it does not benefit the discussion of the ideas presented. If you feel the need to label another poster in such a manner, feel free to contact them or anyone else through private messages, or post about it in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.
That stands for you as well, sir. 
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fireworks_god]
#6198176 - 10/22/06 03:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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But he said "pretty please." 
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Icelander]
#6198183 - 10/22/06 03:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
IMO you understand nothing about and contribute nothing to this forum. You seem unable to understand this and so I must assume you lack some fundamental education and understanding or you have a severe learning disability. Since all this has been pointed out to you before. I suggest you go away until you can become a contributing member of this forum. Pretty please.
How does the assertion that I have some "severe learning disability" add anything to the discusion? Where is the moderator??
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198186 - 10/22/06 03:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm right here, and I gave him the same warning that I did you.
I hereby decree that any further comments directed towards the nature of any other poster in this thread will receive follow-up, as the presence of these types of comments are derailing this discussion.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198201 - 10/22/06 03:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't assert anything. I assumed it based on the evidence I had.
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: fivepointer]
#6198214 - 10/22/06 03:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
fivepointer said:
The quotes used in the original posting are not found in the scripture.
Another minion of darkness is attempting to add to God's Word and pervert the gospel.
The doctrines expounded are nonsense.
There are more Gospels than those included in the Bible, in case you didn't know. And not only are there more Gospels, but the Gospels recently discovered in archaeological digs are unchanged and contain the true quotes of Jesus.
Not to say these Gospels are isolated from the Bible. Many of the quotes Jesus said in the Bible are also in the Gospels not in the Bible, sometimes with slight variations and other times with wider variations. But seeing as the Bible has been revised and translated from language to language for thousands of years, it seems quite clear which is more accurate.
These quotes all come from the Gospel of Thomas, which I've read numerous times. It's the most enlightening Christian book you'll ever read, if you can decipher the metaphorical way in which Jesus speaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas
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Re: Modern Christianity's Greatest Enemy [Re: Ravus]
#6198219 - 10/22/06 03:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isn't it ironic that the people who almost always proclaim that the "Kingdom is in the sky" are Jesus' self-proclaimed followers?
This illustrates the difference between followers and practitioners. Those who are looking for someone to worship are not interested in practicing that which is preached to them. Those who seek out a teacher, rather than an idol, will at least attempt to apply that which they learn.
Also, in my experience, those who proclaim themselves Christian are some of the least likely people to practice what Jesus lived. The volume level and intensity of their proclamations is inversely related to their practical application of said beliefs.
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