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Offlineinsectvhore
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Christ on a Stick
    #3965126 - 03/24/05 03:52 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

in honor of the birth of the vampire or the death of the magician..its time we saw a Satanism thread in the philosophy folder yes?
i do not refer to 'devil worship' or whatever the 'average' person thinks satanism is...
i am talking about the philosophy Anton Lavey developed, and the Church of Satan.
there are too many misconceptions surrounding satanists...in fact too many for me to just simply address...instead i will reply to your queries or arguments from a satanic standpoint...so please i welcome all abuse and insults you can aim at Satanism, or any questions or comments concerning this philosophy...i will check back here later tonight or tomorrow to respond to any thoughts you might have...
the basic tenets of satanism include:
Do what thou wilt, thus shall be the whole of the law. (A. Crowley)
man is nothing more than an animal, and the pursuit of pleasure is his most lofty of goals
Good is what you like; Evil is what you dont like
Truth will never set Man free, only Doubt can bring freedom
The Satanic Golden Rule: do unto others as they do unto you


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Re: Christ on a Stick [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965137 - 03/24/05 03:54 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Do you promote evil or negative actions toward fellow beings currently inhabiting this planet?


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Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965140 - 03/24/05 03:55 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

for more information ask me or go here:
http://www.churchofsatan.com/


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: egghead1]
    #3965150 - 03/24/05 03:58 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

not in any way...i do believe vengeance is acceptable however...karmic retribution is not always best left to the wind..not even the weatherman can predict the weather


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965177 - 03/24/05 04:03 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

If you take Karmic retribution into your own hands, doesn't that render it your own retribution and no longer anything to do with Karma and therefore anything you do to that end will balance against your own Karma?


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Diploid]
    #3965217 - 03/24/05 04:12 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

yes...but the original meaning of karma is duty or action...i, as a satanist see no reason to believe there is any external forces balancing the whole of human mentality at the individual level...that is to say, i no longer believe in karma.


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965273 - 03/24/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Then the retribution is yours; it is not Karmic retribution.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965275 - 03/24/05 04:30 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Anton LeVey is a charlatan. He is an atheist who uses Satanism as a moral reason for engaging for in rituals involving group sexual activity. I read his "Bible" once and he is so full of shit it is funny. These guys are such big no-life losers it is ridiculous. The whole setup is fake and totally lame.


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Diploid]
    #3965280 - 03/24/05 04:32 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

i know that..i guess i worded what id said earlier confusedly...


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3965286 - 03/24/05 04:32 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

why is it called satanism?


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965290 - 03/24/05 04:34 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

hueh:
charlatan maybe, marketing genius none the less...
and do you have any specific reason or grounds with which to back up your claim?


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965309 - 03/24/05 04:39 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

bleak: straightforward answer: to sell books
semantic answer: the meaning of satan is accuser or adversary, and satan represents opposition to all religions which condemn man for hs natural carnality
LaVey is in many ways a charlatan, though he freely admits to it...he also admits to the power of words..he chose the name satanism to attract and repel people


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3965323 - 03/24/05 04:42 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Anton LeVey is a charlatan. He is an atheist who uses Satanism as a moral reason for engaging for in rituals involving group sexual activity. I read his "Bible" once and he is so full of shit it is funny. These guys are such big no-life losers it is ridiculous. The whole setup is fake and totally lame.




I tried talking with one of the people who run www.churchofsatan.com... I had some questions. The reply I recieved was either A) completely sarcastic or B) written by a pseudointellectual. I posted about this exchange a few years ago.


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Re: Christ on a Stick [Re: insectvhore]
    #3965370 - 03/24/05 04:55 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Somehow I don't see satanism as a way of bringing unlimited joy into your life and feeling bliss and oneness with the universe.
It's much to active and noisy, has demands and wishes, much like
the avarage human.


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Re: Christ on a Stick [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #3965375 - 03/24/05 04:56 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
Somehow I don't see satanism as a way of bringing unlimited joy into your life and feeling bliss and oneness with the universe.
It's much to active and noisy, has demands and wishes, much like
the avarage human.





ppphhht, as if humanity were somehow opposed to joy.


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Re: Christ on a Stick [Re: BleaK]
    #3965520 - 03/24/05 05:33 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Truth will never set Man free, only Doubt can bring freedom

can you elaborate on what this means exactly?

give me an example..

i mean, should'nt i doubt satanism so i can be free from it? and should'nt lieing about satanism be ok too? for example, "satanism is a joke religion teenagers would look into to piss off there parents in the late 70's." (or is that true? would it matter to a satanist?)


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Edited by JCoke (03/24/05 05:44 PM)


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3966222 - 03/24/05 09:08 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Anton LeVey is a charlatan. He is an atheist who uses Satanism as a moral reason for engaging for in rituals involving group sexual activity. I read his "Bible" once and he is so full of shit it is funny. These guys are such big no-life losers it is ridiculous. The whole setup is fake and totally lame.




I'm not an expert on satanism. Still I do agree with alot of what I have read. Not too diferent from most magical groups. Alot of people think Crowley was a loser too. Compared to how most reliqions are practiced I don't have a problem with satanism.

And whats wrong with group sex? :smile:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Icelander]
    #3966247 - 03/24/05 09:14 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:

And whats wrong with group sex? :smile:




Takes away the magic and meaning, but then again casual sex does that too.


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #3966253 - 03/24/05 09:17 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

satanists


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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Gomp]
    #3966276 - 03/24/05 09:26 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

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