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![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 02/20/02 Posts: 2,253 |
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After watching disney movie after disney movie, I cant help but see hidden messages.
I have come to love disney, and when I have a kid I will make sure he , if he wishes, gets to see all of the Disney movies he wants. It seems as if they make it obvious in many of their movies what humanity has become , and seem to almost try ot direct or guide humanity. has anyone else noticed disney is somewhat more "special" than most film companies?
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![]() stereotype ![]() Registered: 06/19/02 Posts: 1,294 Loc: Around Minneapol Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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no dude... disney has a horrible record with supression of creative freedom, made propaganda videos for the military, participated in the co-oping of psychedelia, perpetuates false (see: eurocentric) historical accounts-- (I don't think that pocahantas _wanted_ to leave america) not to mention their mcdonalds-type wholesale nature....
what is appealing to you in disney movies (while you're tripping or rolling, of course......) are the perennial, archetypal themes and situations. this is the stuff of basic myth, 'cept with good (nowadays) animation. now, I think that it is certainly profound that even 'normally' cynical tripped out people gravitate towards this "feel good" type stuff. Perhaps these platitude-in-a-story moral lessons resonating with meaning - at least in altered states - can provide some reinforcement or faith in a ridiculous situation. oh, and their either good to gay people and get heat for it from the christians of its the other way around... I can't remember. -------------------- The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side. - Paul Tillich
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![]() Endo Smoke ![]() Registered: 05/31/02 Posts: 609 Loc: State of confusi |
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LION K IDND IS THE BEST MOVIE CEVER I LIKE O SEE IT WHEN II AM FUCKDS UPO I HIT MY HEAD TRYING TO EDO A FLIP FROM THE CEILING IN HTE HOTEL ROOM WITH A CORONA AND A LIEM U GUYS R THE EBST
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![]() The Witness ![]() ![]() Registered: 12/20/02 Posts: 1,883 Loc: San Antonio, TX Last seen: 12 years, 6 months |
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i love disney and you make a good point supermarket ive never really analyzed a disney movie cause there for kids and all that. but i read your post and starting thinking and i get what you mean. the only beef with disney movies i have is that they cant make one without someone in the main charaters family dieing in the very beggining. lion king, bambi are some examples. oh and malachi they are nice to gays and the christian coalition banned its members from going there because of it. disney world is one of the few places that gays can go to and rent a room as a couple and not forced to pay for two seperate people. also they have a big parade on gay pride day. at least that how i remember from a 60 min(or one of those shows like that 20/20, 48 hours, who knows) episode. peace
blaze2 -------------------- "Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein "peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson
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![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 02/06/02 Posts: 4,454 Last seen: 12 years, 1 month |
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hrmm, Gays must bring in more $$$ than christians then...
I know what you mean Supermarket, but I agree with Malachi, though I believe there are some good intelligent people in the business with some real messages hidden somewheres (probably the animators) I think the same goes for videogames.
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![]() 1up on the rest ![]() Registered: 10/20/02 Posts: 534 Loc: Canada Last seen: 4 months, 17 days |
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Go watch the lion king, and when Simba sees his father in the clouds, right as he's running after him as the clouds are blowing away get ready to freeze frame it - the clouds dissappear and simba plops down in the flowers on the edge of the cliff - for *1* frame the dust from the flowers spells sex. Once you see it, you'll see it everytime.
-------------------- No one knows the worth of innocence till he knows it is gone forever, and that money can't buy it back. Not the saint, but the sinner that repenteth, is he to whom the full length and breadth, and height and depth, of life's meaning is revealed. Good and evil loose all objective meaning and are seen as equally necessary and contrasting elements in the masterpiece that is the universe.
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![]() The enlightend ![]() Registered: 10/10/02 Posts: 321 Loc: ontario Last seen: 16 years, 20 days |
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yea there was supposed to be a lot of sexual hidden animations like in alladin the roof tops looked like tits or cocks or some shit, i was never bored enough to confirm it but i think it was in the news. and imho most kid shows/movies have positive messages, like the smurfs, i like sponge bob hes kool, i have a sponge bob pillow who always saves me from bad trips
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![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 07/11/99 Posts: 8,406 |
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Walt Disney was an occultist.
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![]() the lense ![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 05/11/03 Posts: 2,374 |
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my dad always told me that child size dungeon chambers with child sized shackles on the walls were found in the basement of Disney's mansion.
it's probably just a joke....
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![]() illusion ![]() Registered: 04/18/02 Posts: 3,040 Loc: there |
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I tripped on acid at Disneyland and there were hidden messages EVERYWHERE!
or... maybe not.
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![]() Stranger ![]() Registered: 04/20/03 Posts: 463 Loc: over here Last seen: 3 years, 4 months |
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wasnt the smurfs communist propaganda...so someone says
-------------------- get it all together get like birds of a feather
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![]() Stranger Registered: 05/26/03 Posts: 21 Last seen: 9 years, 10 months |
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In Lion king when the leaves are falling from the tree 4-5 leaves stop in mid-air and form the word sex and tits
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![]() stereotype ![]() Registered: 06/19/02 Posts: 1,294 Loc: Around Minneapol Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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I think that there's some 'hidden' stuff in fantasia. or it could've been the acid.
if you look closely at the cover of the little mermaid, there is a cock in the castle. -------------------- The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side. - Paul Tillich
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![]() enthusiast Registered: 10/18/01 Posts: 369 Loc: Abilene, TX Last seen: 14 years, 4 months |
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Someone sent me this a while ago:
http://home.antichrist.com/disney.htm DISNEY There are many symbolic messages being told in the world today, but more often than most we don't see them for what they are. I've broken these Disney stories down in my own interpretations of their symbolic meanings. Remember, even though some of them contain blatantly obvious inner-meanings, we may all have a different understanding of them. I've listed what I think they mean, but even having said that I'll probably still get letters from people saying "IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT!!!". I'll just answer right now with, "YES IT DOES!... to me at least." Aladdin Beauty And The Beast Cinderella The Hunchback Of Notre Dame The Lion King Pocahontas Snow White And The Seven Dwarves (closing thoughts with the Doctor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ALADDIN 1. The story started out with a guy dealing drugs in the streets. After he pulled out a pot pipe (hookah) he then pulled out a lamp and the story began. (his vision, and his enlightenment [lamp] starts right out under the influence of drugs). 2. Out of his lamp (golden vial) of drugs, he poured out a powder (chemicals) and threw them into the sky (airwaves) to make the stars ('celebrities' - drugs have enlightened many). 3. Jafar (J-Jesus- afar), an evil sorcerer (the Christian "God of fear and control") stood at the entrance of a cave, which was actually a huge panther head (black=dark-spirited CAT= opposite of dog/dogma/God, hence 'antichrist') who was called Allah. A lamp (enlightenment) and a treasure were inside (of the mouth, i.e. WORDS OF GOD). But Allah said that Jafar, the evil sorcerer, could not enter (cannot hear the words, nor receive the lamp/enlightenment), because "only a diamond-in-the-rough could". (stars being created/diamonds= stones of value [the rock of the church/rock-n-roll], yet even though they were created from the star-powder [celebrity-chemicals] of the lamp, as shown in the beginning, they were enlightened by it also [at which time they will no longer be "in-the-rough"]). 4. Aladdin stole food (eat=knowledge) because he was hungry (without knowledge/fasting), but gave it to children and went without (ROBINHOOD SYMBOLISM, i.e., steal from the rich to give to the poor - this is also the Biblical symbol of the swine [rich and greedy people] building their own wealth so that we may all inherit it in the New World, thus the reason for the creation of money/greed, as well as the need of world's destruction to inherit it. "For God so loved the world" that he gave his only BEGotfen children). 5. Jasmine the princess was forced by law to marry a prince (become MARRIED= ONE with the Mother/God/Prince of Peace), but she had to be married by her 21st Birthday (the 21st Century/ when she finally grows/ spiritually adulthood) which was only three days away ("on the third day", and the beginning of the third set of thousand years). But she didn't like the law. (in other words, she has no freedom of choice to think as she likes, neither religiously nor socially). 6. She was protected by a tiger (another CAT [opposite of Christian DOGma] and "by his stripes {of a tiger} we are healed" [a bible quote regarding whip-marks showing his SUFFERING], and yes, by that pain they have caused, we will now be healed of Christianity). 7. She looked into the sky (looks to the heavens) and saw birds (spirits) fly into the sun (the Son), then she climbed over the fence (the WALL of separation built by all religions) and left the palace which she had never been out of (showing her new found freedom from the constraints of the Beast, led by spirits [birds] to finally be allowed to have thoughts of her own). 8. Jafar (Christianity) held a stick, with a snake-head on it, over her father's face, and hypnotized him into giving him his ring (they use the fear of Satan, thereby brainwashing, for monetary gain. This symbolizes the connection [ring] made through evil, hypnotic pretenses), but the ring shows Jafar who the diamond-in-the-ruff is, and it is Aladdin (Allah DIN/eat/knowledge). 9. Aladdin saved Jasmine (J/Jesus as mine) from false accusations of thievery (admonishes the Christian's for falsely slandering his name) but he was imprisoned for helping her (he is trapped within Christian control) but Jafar (Christianity) disguised himself (wolf in sheep's clothing) to get Aladdin out of prison, but only because he wanted the treasure in the panther's mouth (words). Aladdin went into the panther's mouth for the lamp but he was trapped by the panther (trapped within his own enlightenment) and everything started burning and he fell into a pit (goes into perdition like Jesus did), but a genie came out of the lamp and granted him his freedom (God comes to him to lead him out of religious bondage/Christianity). 10. Aladdin, pretended to be a prince because of the law, and took Jasmine on a magic carpet ride (takes the Christians for a ride) past birds (spirits), horses (horsemen/musicians) and a pyramid (the Mt. Luxor, the Tower of Babel/Bible). 11. The Genie (God of enlightenment/lamp) that gave the Aladdin his powers, was tricked by the evil Jafar (Christianity) and was trapped by him having granted him powers that even he could not control (God was imprisoned by his own words... the Bible, by the people who gained their power from it). But instead of Aladdin using his last wish to become a prince so he could marry his love, he used it to free the Genie (he gave up his first and only true love, PLANET EARTH/the Old World, so that we may finally have FREEDOM to do whatever it is we please in the New World). 12. The Sultan, impressed with what Aladdin had done, changed the law so that Jasmine and him could be married. And the Sultan said that with all he had done, he was worthy to be a prince (the prince of peace) and he even changed the law to say that Jasmine could marry anyone she wanted to, and of course she chose Aladdin. (he fought for freedom and won the fight). CONCLUSION: This story has many more symbolic meanings than I have mentioned here, but it is basically told by a drug dealer in the streets, similar to the Alice in Wonderland story, explaining the enlightening factor that drugs can sometimes provide. Yet mostly, it is a fight for freedom of choice, which is what the whole drug war is about anyway. What gives ANYONE the right to say which drug should be legal and which one shouldn't? We should have the freedom to decide for ourselves, and if they were ALL legal, we wouldn't have a drug problem to this day. We are rebellious by nature, because we are human. You tell me not to do something, I'm going to want to see why. Aren't you? What were they thinking when they took charge? Only a clean start could fix this problem. Common logic would have it: If one drug is legal, then they ALL should be, otherwise you have hypocrisy! Now society has to deal with the problem that they themselves have created. And no, I don't do drugs anymore, and I haven't for many years. I don't believe in them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1. A prince (savior) was turned into a lion-type of Beast (lion of the tribe of Judas, Gen 49:9, Rev 5:5) by an evil witch (Christianity) because he turned her away in her time of need (he wasn't there for the church when he should have been). 2. The spell would remain upon him forever unless he was able to find someone to love him before his 21st birthday. (the day of spiritual birth at the beginning of the 21st century, which is the day he becomes a spiritual "grown-up" [i.e., 21 years of age]). 3. The red rose (symbol of love), that the witch tried to trade for his help, was left with the Beast as a reminder of his curse for not helping her, which he kept in the 'west' wing of the castle (the U.S./west). It remained alive in a glass case (computer) for him to look at. 4. He looked upon the outside world through a magic mirror (a symbol of the "glass case" also known as a computer, to gain knowledge and see the world). 5. A young girl named Bell (dinner Bell / Last Supper / mass communication), always reading books (acquiring knowledge), dreamt of something much greater (the New World/freedom). 6. Bell's father, an inventor (Alexander Graham Bell and/or the inventor of the computer) got lost trying to show off his invention (is unsure of direction [or magnitude of his invention]) and stumbled upon the Beast's castle (the Internet falls into the hands of the Beast). 7. At the Beast's castle (the Cast of antichrists), Bell's father (the Internet) was greeted by a talking candelabra (given enlightenment) and a talking clock (a countdown to the end of Christianity), but he was eventually imprisoned by the Beast (God's own words were being used against him). 8. Her father's horse (horsemen/musicians) ran to tell Bell of her father's imprisonment (shows the Christian bondage via the Internet), so she offered herself in exchange for her father's freedom (became the sacrifice to free us from religious domination). 9. The candelabra and the clock (enlightenment of the countdown) were both convinced that Bell (the Internet) was the only one who could break the Beast's evil spell (take down the religion), so they invited her to dinner (the Last Supper [knowledge given]). 10. Bell saw the glass case with the rose in it (realizes the Internet's potential), which upset the Beast (Christianity). He scared Bell and she ran out into the woods, and was almost killed by the wolves (dogs/dogma), but was sought out and saved from them by the Beast, who actually wasn't really the Beast at all, but Bell didn't know it yet (the biblical beast that "was, and is not, and yet is", Rev 17:8). He got injured in the fight with the wolves (the religion caused him to suffer). 11. The Beast fought Bell's jealous boyfriend (the Christian "jealous" god, Deu 6:15) and in throwing him from the tower (the fall of the Luxor/ Tower of Babel) into a pit to his death (ending the religion forever), his side was pierced by him, so he died also. (Jesus' body was pierced in the side [in-side] with a spear [inside his spirit {spear it} symbolized by the rib cage {Heart in a cage}] while hanging dead on the cross). 12. But upon his death, Bell's love for him finally broke the witches evil spell which caused a light to shine on him, and he was not only resurrected back to life, but was also changed into the handsome prince, and they were Married (need I explain this?... the resurrection by way of the love from the Dinner bell [see bible codes] caused the Beast to become the "is not" part of his "and yet is" reign, Rev 17:8). CONCLUSION: The evil spell (which was the imprisonment of beastliness) was more the Beast of the story than the Beast himself. This could also be looked at as the transformation of a not-so-nice Beast (religion) into a handsome prince in the end. So, Christianity, I hereby lift your spell. David, the Bell Captain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CINDERELLA 1. She got her name from cleaning fire places (she was sent to clean hell, i.e., SIN-der-HELL-a, doing away with hell). 2. The Step Mother's Jealousy (the "jealous god", a STEP-GOD not really Mary's parent at all) was mainly concerned with her 'ugly' children. (She was born of her own ugly nature, the Christian religion] 3. But Cinderella (Eve) broke free (became antichristian) and went to the BALL (globe of clarity. A ball is also known biblically as a compass/ COMPuter PASSage to direct us Home/heaven, 2 Chr 4:2-4). 4. After dancing with the Prince she fell in love with him (becoming obsessed with his looks and his security/wealth). 5. Cinderella lost her GLASS SLIPPER on the stairway (glass symbolizes clarity, ability to see through to the FOOT [which are ROOTS, see bible code], meaning that she lost the ability to see what is in store for the beginning of the new human species. And she lost that ability on the Stairway to Heaven, Gen 28:12). 6. She had to be home by midnight (HOME= Heaven & MIDNIGHT= Rapture, the strike of midnight, New Century's Eve). 7. But Cinderella was late to leave for home (like Christ's "second coming" is known to be late). 8. Cinderella's chariot (ability) created from a pumpkin, was her vessel of transportation to meet her future husband (a pumpkin is an uncarved Jack o' Lantern / 'John of enlightenment'). The carriage was turned back into a pumpkin (the symbol of the Gatemaster of Heaven, St. Peter who: "had a wife (Cinderella/Las Vegas) and couldn't keep her" (he knew she must me destroyed), but he "put her in a pumpkin shell (SHEll / sHELL - like a candle in the Jack-o-Lantern) and there he kept her very well" (kept her very rich). 9. The Prince (the Messiah), determined to find the girl (Eve/Mother Mary), searched diligently for her (as if searching through the scriptures and the religions to find the true meaning of the old Eve and the new Mary). 10. Then He (the Christ, the spiritually connected people) finally found her. But first he had to go through all of the other women in town (religions) who tried to lie and cheat their way into his heart, but "the shoe didn't fit" (the pseudo-christs did not qualify). 11. When he came to her house, her evil Step Mother kept her locked in her room, but her friends (the mice) stole the key to help her get out. (the codes were broken, which opened up the door of understanding, to prepare the bride to meet her groom, the Christ to become one with Mary/married). 12. When it was her turn to try on the slipper, it got broken (they try to cover the truth and the clarity) but Cinderella still has the other one. She tried it on and of course it fit. She got Married (she becomes Mother Mary the Madonna, with "children at her feet". So then the wedding ring of connection to Mary, the Mother of the New World, and they live happily ever after). Okay, now for the REAL breakdown of Cinderella, the EXPANDED VERSION: (not to be confused with a pregnant virgin): CINDERELLA The evil Step Mother (Earth) told Cinderella (Las Vegas) to prepare her evil step-sisters (the Hotels) for the BALL (the FALL, of Babylon, or Lucy's Ball). She is beautiful, but has been given a dirty name, one she often lives up to (Lost Wages, Law's Vague Us, or Last Fake Ass- or whatever you want to call her) but she is looking for her Prince (Prince of Peace, the Messiah). Also, the BALL, might typify Bally's, on Flamingo Road ["Babylon's flaming rod" (Exo 9:23)] which is a hotel that used to be owned by the MGM [the MGM lion symbolizes the biblical "Lion of the Tribe of Judas"] but now, upon it's resurrection (having resurrected stronger and greater than before, as a major family theme park) stares right toward the Luxor (Luck soar/sore) as if to be waiting for the Fall. But the Lady (Luxor) is hidden in the background away from the Lion (the MGM) behind King Arthur's Excalibur, which symbolizes King Arthur of 'The sWORD and the stONE (the King of Art, of words in the stone [2 stone tablets of TEN commandments] Christianity). She is hidden behind the words of the bible, out of the LION's view (out of the sight of the Lion of the Tribe), remembering that only the KING of ARThur had the ability to remove the words from the book, which granted him Royalty, making him King of Kings (Arthurs, Caesars, MGMs, etc.) and LORD of L(w)ORDS... But still the Luxor stays hidden out of the direct sight of the LION (MGM), the tribe of Judas (antichrists). But now, the dance and the Ball (also referred to as a compass or a computer/Internet, Isa 22:18, 2 Chr 4:2) is almost over (the end of the Babylon is near) and Cinderella (Babylon)is preparing to leave the Ball (take a fall) where upon so doing, she loses her slipper (loses the ability to see clearly, her step into the future) on the stairs (Stairway to Heaven- ["a Lady we all know, who has a white light and wants to show"] - a song written several years before Lucy was built). But of course there's got to be more to it than this. Let's look at just that one Las Vegas intersection (Tropicana & the Strip) where the resurrected Lion lays wait: New York City was thought to be Babylon by many Eschatologists (theologians who study end time prophecies) because of the great wealth of Wall Street (which symbolizes the Wall built between mankind and god due to the corruption of money). So, a replica is built for them (New York New York Hotel and Casino). This fulfills their prophecy. New York is now in Las Vegas (everyone is correct). Adjacent to New York New York, is the Tropicana Hotel, which is also called "The Island of Las Vegas". This is just one of the biblical "many waters" that the Whore (Las Vegas) would sit upon (Rev 17:1, Isa 58:11). It also symbolizes the wealth of the LAND, like: Treasure Island (is land), or a "DESERT ISLAND" (have you ever seen one of those, complete with cactus and all?), an image planted in our minds to symbolize Vegas (an island in the desert). So now we have the full spectrum of the entire world symbolized right there at that one single intersection (Las Vegas Blvd, & Tropicana Avenue). With the LAND (Tropicana, the Islands), MONEY (New York, Wall street), ENTERTAINMENT (MGM, movies, and Adventure-land), FAMILY (All of the Hotels), GOVERNMENT (MGM, Metro-G-Mayor, and again, MONEY), the BIBLE (Excalibur, Sword [words] in the Stone [tablets] and even the Beast of the 'Book of Stone Hearts', the Bible) was physically created to guard the castle. This fire breathing Dragon even matches the symbolic Beast of Christianity (Rev 9:18, with their promises of fire and brimstone) as it lies directly a-'J'-sent to the MGM, staring directly into the 'pyramid shaped eyes' (soon to be replaced with all new lion), the Lion of the Tribe of Judas. The MGM's main theme is the Wizard Of Oz, and this Emerald Palace symbolizes the Home that we have always known the way to (we just didn't realize it yet). And please pay no attention to this man behind the computer (he's not all there). So with the connection regarding the Dark Side Of The Rainbow (the Pink Floyd and Wizard of Oz connection) we now must include ROCK-n- ROLL into the: intersection (cross) of the fullest-symbolic-spectrum on the face of the Earth. And let's not forget to mention all the magic acts in Babylon (the Beast was expected to be magic and perform miracles), the Showgirls, and last but not least, the STRIPPERS (the people walking along the Strip). And here we have solved the great mystery. We have found the "FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH" that we have so desperately been looking for on a round planet (Revelation 7). (Isaiah 11:12) And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. (14) But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west... (15)... And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea... (the Bible/ the Dead Sea scrolls) (16) And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from ASSyria (1 Kin 13:13); like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt. CONCLUSION: Las Vegas (Babylon) is the bride of many symbolic names and faces, and we are the Bridegroom having prepared her for the New Moon, and the hONEy moon that will last forever. We will be Mary in the New World, because the Virgin (verge in) has saved herself just for us. Symbolized by the ultimate human experience; LAS VEGAS, our Heaven and our Hell together combined, created for us and by us. Lucy, with one headlight shining into the heavens to enlighten our way Home, promises a world of ultimate freedom to do whatever it is we please, with no restrictions whatsoever. Free to be humans, and free to finally become God Itself incarnate, to tap the unused portion of our brains, taking us to a completely new level of mentality higher than the stars in the sky. Of course it's a pipe dream, but with just a thought, your Piper has created for you, the pipeline to heaven, ANY heaven that you could possibly dream of. Cinderella is the great Whore (Mt. Hor [Num 33:38] a.k.a. Horus) created to service the lonely Beast. She is Mary Magdalene, who stood by Jesus until his death and the end of his suffering (the CROSS religion, Phi 2:8). Then when she went to the tomb where his soul was once trapped, she saw that he resurrected into the Secret Garden of Eden (the Bible mentions "THE GARDEN", John 19:41, where Jesus' tomb is). This is symbolic prophecy, not history. So what is the meaning of it? Answer: Don't worry. The Luxor pyramid, the symbolic Breast of Cinderella, is shining her milk of enlightenment into the heavens for her BABYlon to follow. We are invited into the "land of milk and honey" (Exo 3:8) to stop the bitter burn of our once TONGUES OF FIRE (Rev 10:9, Num 5:27). She will take us into her womb so that we may be born at last into the world we were promised. She is building our Paradise right now, IT IS A LITERAL PLACE, and she is our way there. Do we have to go to Vegas to make it to the New World? Of course not (that part is symbolic), but she built us a sign and a promise that we can't miss. Although Las Vegas has plagued people with her hailstones, just like hailing (or worshipping) the church of stone ("built on a rock, the corner stone, written on stone tablets"), the gambling and the money is also symbolized by the same term HAILSTONE (stone cold, cold as ice, Rev 16:21, Psa 18:12). She is the physical manifestation of Hell, the symbolic "lake of fire", and the glory of all Christian prophecies. Their "fire and brimstone" which issues from their mouths (their promises), condemn all who are not Christian to an eternity in Hell (Gen 19:24, Rev 9:17). But the once dead Spirit of Christ (the church, and/or the Temple/Luxor) finally resurrected (has been built) to save the people from this eternal hell that the Christians have wished into existence. This is "THE FIRST RESURRECTION" just like the Book of Revelation states (Rev 20: 5), because the 'bablical Bibylon' has not been here until now. Babylon, the "Four Corners Of The Earth", and the death of this symbliteral (symbolic yet physical) Hell, will also be the death of the Christian religion, because finally they will realize the power of their thoughts, and only then will they know what they have done. Only at the fulfillment of this prophecy will they understand that they are the ones who caused it. Only then will they awaken and look back into history to countless millions of deaths caused by their thoughts and by nothing more than using the name of their False Prophet to perform their hateful acts (Acts 13:6-Acts 13:8). And if that much suffering can be done with only words and wishes, think what the New World will be when we know how to think. I know, I've said this all before, but I'm going to say it once again (and probably about a thousand more times before I'm through): Each and every atrocity is caused by 'thought', but all is forgiven, proving the power of complete and unconditional love, and the power of forgiveness. Because if god can forgive the Christians for all that they have murdered, or caused to be murdered, or sent here to live in this Earth of a seemingly endless hell... then he will prove that there is literally no one or nothing beyond his forgiveness. Whew... I thought I'd never shut up! And no, I'm not the only one who realizes that Cinderella was written to symbolize Christianity. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME 1. It started with a riddle for us to solve, Who is the monster and who is the man? (god/Satan.... jesus/Satan) An old lady in a tower set a bunch of birds free. (God the Mother sets the spirits loose) 2. The evil governor (Christianity) of the town, Frollo, saw a Gypsy girl who appeared to be hiding something, so even though he was influenced by the church, he chased her down and killed her (the killing of EVE, the Christian witch trials, the Jewish holocaust, Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, etc.). But her deformed baby wasn't killed. That was the thing she was hiding (something hidden from the churches knowledge, is that the Beast is born of a spiritually dead Mother Eve, killed by the church). He was ready to kill the baby when the Priest stepped in and saved it (God saved the Beast). The Priest took him into the cathedral, but he was told by the evil ruler not to let him out of the bell tower. (the Bell symbolizes the call of the Last Supper [the Dinner Bell], and the Christians [the Priest] provided a place for him at the highest level of the church... the Bell Tower [of Babel] ). 3. Frollo, the evil governor, named the baby Quasimoto (the Beast) which means: half formed (incomplete human/physical mutation) and the Quazi was abused by him his whole life (the Beast is created by the church causing the people to suffer), and he was imprisoned in the church (trapped in Christian control, no freedom of choice). 4. Quazi had 3 gargoyle friends who were statues at the top on the cathedral. They came to life when Quazi was alone with them (he is spoken to by the Trinity, who were made of stone [the rock of the church] but he could speak to them). 5. Quazi helped a little bird fly for the first time (helps a spirit to fly). 6. Esmeralda, the Gypsy girl, was begging for money in the street (the world is poor), yet the Gypsies were accused of being the cause of all the city's problems (prejudice in the church). 7. At the festival of fools they tied Quazi in the center of the street and they all made fun of him (the world lacks compassion for the less fortunate people), but the gypsy girl felt sorry for him and saved him (Mother Mary), which made the evil governor mad because Quazi shouldn't have left the Bell Tower, and he wanted him punished (the Christians don't want anyone who is different than they are, to be saved, especially not the Beast). 8. Esmeralda was chased by the evil governor, but she hid in the cathedral (Mother Mary hidden from the Christians). Capt. Phoebus (the Phoenix, a mythological bird that resurrects from its own ashes every 500 years) came to the Cathedral after her, he liked her, he told her his name meant sungod (i.e., the Son of God). Phoebus saved her by telling her to claim political asylum in the Church (She is protected by God with the help of the Christ). 9. Phoebus (the Messiah) and the Gypsy girl were caged in the town by the evil governor (imprisoned by Christianity) but the Gypsy broke free with the help of Quazi (the Beast) and Phoebus managed to free himself also. (The Christ and his future bride is saved by the Beast (the Antichrist). 10. The governor was so mad about their escape that he set fires everywhere and burnt people's houses down (condemning sinners to hell). And he imprisoned anyone who he even thought about helping them hide. There were fires all over the city (cities on flame), he threatened to burn the whole city if she was not found... he also offered 10 pieces of silver (TEN symbolizes Christianity) if they would help him destroy her (offers heaven to them if they would condemn sinners to hell for him, or with him). 11. But the Priest told her "Gypsies can't be locked in. They would rather die." (humanity has been Gypped [Egypt/Egypped- Gypsy], and would rather die than have no freedom) 12. Everyone prayed to a statue of Mary, even the evil governor, but he did it with a 'holier than thou' attitude. The old lady in the tower at the beginning, who set the birds free over the city, was shown again in the last scene of the movie, as she asked the birds (spirits), "Don't you ever migrate??!!" (blatantly obvious clue, don't you think?) CONCLUSION: This movie was a bit more obvious with their display of the broken codes. The movie is clear full of them, and there's nothing subtle about it. The Hunchback has a Phantom of the Opera quality to him. At the end of the movie he is accepted by the people and loved for his heroism. This Beast is us. Yes, we are the Hunchback trapped in the Bell Tower of the church just waiting to ring the dinner bell at the time of our Last Supper of spiritual knowledge. In the New World we will look back on our old-Hunchback-selves as the hideous mutations that we have become. I speak for myself as well in that statement. Instead of looking for the inner beauty of a person, we are a world driven mostly by looks and we focus on the physical far too much. Well, I'm no Brad Pit, but I have a key to one (so I'm told, Rev 20:1). What we are now was caused by many things, mostly inexperience, but that will be corrected in the New World (which I have seen). And talk about worth dying for!! Now, let's get on with the show!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LION KING 1. A lion son was born (lion of the tribe of Judah, "the second coming"). 2. Upon the celebration of his birth, a mystic christened his forehead (his mind was branded- the mark of the beast) with the juice from a strange fruit (forbidden fruit). 3. He was watched over by a bird (spirit) which was given to him as a guardian by his Father (god). 4. His Father told him that whatever the light touched was his kingdom (his royalty is his enlightenment). 5. The Evil king was jealous (like a "jealous God", the CHRISTIAN "God") 6. The Father died saving his son from a wild stampede caused by the hyenas (the dogs/dogma cause the spiritual death of GOD 'the Father'. He offers his life like Jesus offered himself to be killed thereby symbolizing: the death of Christianity). 7. The Son was blamed for his father's death (Jesus is blamed for the spiritual death of Christianity). 8. He hung out with a warthog and a weasel-looking rat (undesirables) who were real party-animals (Jesus hung with hookers and sinners). 9. His true love Nala (Eve) came to him for help, but he turned her down (he is not there for the church) until the Spirit of his father came to him in his own reflection (created in God's image), and in a cloud (God) and told him that he must go back to fight the EVIL KING (Christianity). 10. He fought and overpowered the evil king. His true love, Nala, and his Mother (Mary) were with him for support, but he still couldn't bring himself to actually kill the evil ruler (he was a pacifist, a "king of peace") but his Hyena friend did it for him (dog/dogma/GOD puts his own religion to death). 11. Since he was a small boy, he felt horrible for causing the death of his Father (death of the Spirit) and returned (second coming) to take back his crown (antichristianity) and to fight the evil ruler (Christianity). 12. When he won, the kingdom came back to life and they had a baby (upon the death of the evil ruler/Christianity, the New World is born). CONCLUSION: This is one of the more popular stories of them all, and rightly so, because this is the story that we are all living right now, and it contains the more blatantly obvious symbolic messages. If we think of ourselves as the Lion King, then we will know that the reflection in the mirror, which is us, is also the Spirit that guides us. Yeah, I know, we didn't know, but that's have the fun now that we do. Isn't it? Isn't this all too cool now that we see the connection of everything and everyone? Even the stories that raised us are promising an end to our suffering. Welcome to the Tribe of Judas, to kill the Beast with a kiss of compassion and remorse, not betrayal!! We have ALL been betrayed by each other. The winds of change are now blowing. And Jesus will not calm these winds, because this time he is within them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ POCAHONTAS 1. A man named John Smith came from England to the United States. (this is a story about John Lennon, who was raised by his aunt Mimi "SMITH" since he was an infant. Edgar Allan Poe wrote of the same John Smith in the story X-ing A Paragrab, where he compared John "the Bullet-head" [also mentioned in the Beatles' song "The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill"] to the 3 wise men who "came from the East". In that story Poe makes reference to the Alphabeglyphic code "O" [the biblical "circle of connection" symbolized by a gold/valuable ring/wedding ring] being "X"ed out by the CROSS [Christian church] "having made him X (cross)". In this story of John Smith and the Devil, Poe even wrote: "the diabolical treason lay concealed in the hieroglyphics" [referencing the hieroglyphic codes hidden in the English alphabet- Alphabeglyphics] ). Continuing: John wanted to kill Indians (starts off with a rebellious nature, and is a horsemen/ musician). He wanted to find gold (become rich and famous), and build a life in "the New World, VIRGINia" (the next life, with the virgin [verge in] Mary [Mother Earth]). 2. Pocahontas' father (god) wanted her to marry a man who she does not love (the church wants christians to worship the False Prophet, Jesus). She respected her father's wishes, and agrees (submits to the Christian law). 3. There was a celebration, Pocahontas' dad has just gotten home (the second coming) and there was a meeting with other tribes (other religions/other tribes of Judas). 4. She had a bird (spirit) that went everywhere with her. 5. Pocahontas told her father of a dream she had of an arrow in a circle, and it was spinning (this is the biblical "wheel in the sky" or the Egyptian "solar disc" that is biblically sometimes called a compass [meaning that it will show us the way home, to the New World]. It is also symbolized by a CD/music in the airwaves). But the father thought that it meant that she was supposed to marry the great warrior (God/the church misinterprets Her vision, thinking she was supposed to become One with the God of War/the warrior), but she just thought that it meant that something was going to happen, and she was right. Then she went to see Grandmother Willow, a willow tree (a sad person, with branches that reach to the ground instead of to the heavens). She told the willow about her dream (interpreting dreams, which is a common biblical occurrence. It means "having visions", but contemporary christians discredit most visions). Pocahontas told the willow of the spinning arrow in a circle, it was spinning faster and faster like a record on a turntable, then it stopped (the music gets harder and louder and more violent, then the world ends) The Willow (symbol of sadness) told Pocahontas that it was leading her to her path (her enlightenment will come from the music). The Willow told her that the signs are everywhere (as we can now see). They are in the trees and the wind and she needed to listen with her heart and she would hear them (instead of listening to the words of man, or the words of a book). 6. Her father told her to be like the river and take the smoothest path (be a Christian like everyone else) but she said "the river is always changing." (the churches are constantly changing and multiplying, i.e., "many god's") 7. She saw a strange cloud in her mind (strange God) and then she looked out toward the sea (people) and saw the sails of a ship (the starship/musical Ark, or connection), She saw John (Lennon) but they didn't meet yet (he is famous, but she isn't. She is learning from his music, just like her vision told her would happen). 8. The Indians and the white man fought (the Christians take away not only their land, but their entire existence) and then the Indians went back to their village (to their home/the Spirit) where they had a powwow around a fire (Prisoner Of War, War Of Words, condemning them to hell/fire). They saw the danger of the strangers (Christians) in a vision that came from the fire (The God of Hell-fire, with blasphemies from the "fire of their mouths" that make God sound like Satan). The chief said the strangers were like ravenous wolves (dogs/dogma) destroying everything in their path (hence Christianity). 9. John put water in his hand to wash his face and he saw his reflection (like a mirror or a "looking glass" referencing Lennon's "rocking horse-people with looking-glass ties" [having the ability to see/enlightened to the TIES of all things connecting]). 11. Though he was disgusted with what he saw in the reflection (the looking-glass, or the Glass Onion/crystal ball) his thoughts changed by what he saw farther back (later on) because Pocohantas (Yoko Ono), was standing behind him in his reflection. This was their first meeting. 12. John (Lennon) and Pocahontas (Yoko) go to a waterfall (the biblical "fountain of living waters" i.e., heaven/the New World) and she was standing on a rock (the biblical "rock of the church"). When they touched hands she remembered what Grandmother Willow told her (listen with her heart) and then she taught John that the Spirit was in everything and that he should respect all of life, and that just because people have different beliefs doesn't make them better or worse than one another. (Yoko taught John a lot about the spirit of connection). Then the main song, the key to the whole story, began, as they lay in the huge eye of an eagle (a bird [spirit] of "pray" Christianity/and U.S./the "New Jerusalem"). The song called: A Circle In a Hoop That Never Ends (mentioned in the bible, Isa 40:22, Eze 1:15-21) was telling them about the continuous circle of life and eternity (as seen at the top of the CROSS of the Egyptian ankh, which is a symbol of eternal life): The song seemed to be the most important part of the movie (and of course it is, since it is about John and Yoko... and the music is the first major connection of the Ark): Colors of the Wind you think you own whatever land you land on the earth is just a dead thing you can claim but I know every rock and tree and creature has a life has a spirit has a name you think the only people who are people are people who look and think like you but if you walk the footsteps of a stranger you'll learn things you never knew you never knew have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon or ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned can you sing with all the voices of the mountains can you paint with all the colors of the wind come round the hidden pine trees of the forest come taste the sun's sweet berries of the earth come roll in all the riches all around you and for once never wonder what they're worth the rainstorm and the river are my brother the heron and the otter are my friend and we are all connected to each other in a circle in a hoop that never ends how high does the sycamore grow if you cut it down then you'll never know and you'll never hear the wolf cry to the blue corn moon for whether we are white or copper skinned we need to sing with all the voices of the mountains we need to paint with all the colors of the wind you can own the earth and still all you own is earth until you can paint with all the colors of the wind............ During that song, John Smith became enlightened...(just like the world will be, because his words will never end and will come again and again through every song ever sung. Because he is the biblical PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIRwaves, and all eyes will see him/have seen him, just like the bible predicted. ("he will come in the air, and every eye will see him"... and He has). John also had a friend named Thomas ("doubting Thomas", Christianity [the cross of doubt]-"T"), John was captured by Indians (by Christianity), both sides began the battle (the spiritual war), but Pocahontas remembered the words of the Willow, that she had to stop the hatred (a very Yoko thing). Then she said "look at what hatred has caused her father" (god), but the fight continued and the leader of the cowboys (Christians, i.e., symbol of the biblical GOLDEN COW) shot at Pocahontas' father, but John tried to save him and took a bullet instead (sacrificed himself just like Christ). He was shot in the ribs (his caged heart was hurt). But John was wounded so bad that he had to go back to England to heal (to heal his Spirit). Pocahontas wanted to go with him, but decided to stay because she was needed here. His ship (the Ark) sailed away into a very strange cloud (a strange God [see bible code] ). CONCLUSION: From the Spirit world, part of John's healing process was to prepare his horsemen for the battle. This is the most devastating and destructive revolution that the Christian world could ever possibly imagine, because it is a battle of love, and there is no weapon that can win against that. John Lennon is the Christ. He was the first, and he will be the last. This is His resurrection. The once False Prophet, crying "love and peace" to a dark world, was killed for the prophesy that is soon to be fulfilled. He has resurrected in us, ALL OF US, to show the way home. Imagine that! A damn rock star! What John Lennon has done is really no different than what we are doing now. We were just able to hear him better than most. We are all victims of our OWN bondage, whatever it is. We were sent to suffer, now let's quit complaining and make the best of it, because it's almost over... thank JOHN!! I am He as you are He as you are me and we are all together. (John Lennon, the Christ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SNOW WHITE and the SEVEN DWARVES 1. Snow White is a symbol of purity or virginity (Virgin Mary). 2. The queen was jealous of her (like the "jealous" Christian God). 3. The Queen ordered Snow White's death but the one she sent to kill her set her free. (the Jealous God plans the spiritual death of the Church, but sends in a savior by mistake so that in end, Mary [the church] is saved). 4. The blue birds (sad spirits) led her to the 7 dwarves (God). 5. They came home (second coming) to find her sleeping (spiritually asleep). 6. She agreed to work for them around the house (Mary works for God). 7. The mirror told the evil Queen that Mary was still alive "over the SEVEN jeweled hills" (Babylon, Rev 17:9), "beyond the SEVEN falls" (the fall of the Luxor/Christianity), "to the cottage of the 7 dwarves" (the holy temple of God). (That gave 777, a number not only symbolizing the completion of God [which is actually the "BEGINNING of God" as mentioned in Rev 3:14], and also a number found on every slot machine in Babylon). 8. She put poison (her own words) into an apple (the forbidden fruit) and tricked Snow White (Mary) into eating (learning) it. 9. The poison put Snow White to sleep (Mother Mary, spiritually asleep via the "fruit" of Christianity). 10. The animals went to the dwarves for help (the "Beasts" go to god for help). 11. The animals chased the evil Queen up a hill/cliff and she fell to her death (the Fall of the Luxor Hotel, the Queen of Hearts). 12. The prince, who she ran from at the beginning of the story, came and kissed Snow White and she woke up (she denied the Spirit at first, but is now awakened by it). CONCLUSION: Snow White obviously symbolizes Mother Mary as we already know, and the number seven of course is God. The fact that God is given various personalities in this story might be showing his similarity to us, maybe even that he IS us. All of their faces combined could even resemble the God that we picture sitting on his thrown in the clouds, yet he is dwarfed, perhaps typifying his incompleteness, perhaps telling us that we need to connect, to become one, not seven. However, all of the Dwarves personalities combined, as different as they are from one another, create a harmonious team and the symbol of ultimate perfection. Also, "Horus is protected as The Great Dwarf (Nemu) who goeth around about the two lands in the darkness (Legends Of The Egyptian Gods). Lennon also mentions the Dwarf in his book 'In His Own Write', and the Hindu dwarf Vamana defeated the demon Bali in THREE strides (the Trinity). CLOSING COMMENTS: Now that the seals are broken, we can see that many different stories have a piece of the end time puzzle. If they were all just stealing stories from the Bible (which some have also) then why the codes? How did they come up with the codes before the seals were even broken? There are the skeptics that will still write all of this off as 'coincidence', but no matter what you want to call it, there's a lesson to be learned, a moral lesson hidden within each of these great classics. If they were put there by god, or just in there by accident, there must be a reason that they all tell the same symbolic story. We should thank Disney for their part in this resurrection, and with the Southern Baptists having recently boycotted them, we might begin to realize just how important they are. They must be doing something right. Yes, some of their stories are more obvious at showing the dark side of the church, but whether it is Mother Goose, Disney, Dr. Seuss, or the Bible, the stories have planted the seeds of hope... hope for a better world. And the time has come to weed the garden: (Jonah 2:5) The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head. Remove the thorns and the weeds from our crown (our kingdom). Please give us back our freedom. -------------------- WARNING chronicshroom will rip you off! Don't trade with him! I sent him 20 spore syringes and he never sent me anything.
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![]() illusion ![]() Registered: 04/18/02 Posts: 3,040 Loc: there |
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damn, somebody has WAY too much time on their hands!
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![]() stereotype ![]() Registered: 06/19/02 Posts: 1,294 Loc: Around Minneapol Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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no shit!
-------------------- The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side. - Paul Tillich
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![]() 1up on the rest ![]() Registered: 10/20/02 Posts: 534 Loc: Canada Last seen: 4 months, 17 days |
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I only read into it about 2 paragraphs but I think he's looking WAY too much into it..
-------------------- No one knows the worth of innocence till he knows it is gone forever, and that money can't buy it back. Not the saint, but the sinner that repenteth, is he to whom the full length and breadth, and height and depth, of life's meaning is revealed. Good and evil loose all objective meaning and are seen as equally necessary and contrasting elements in the masterpiece that is the universe.
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i read a quarter into the aladdin part, what a load of horse shit.
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![]() pudding pop ![]() ![]() Registered: 06/27/01 Posts: 787 Loc: unknown trashsca Last seen: 4 years, 8 months |
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There's a really good article about Walt Disney in the August, 1963 issue of National Geographic magazine. It is crazy and shows pictures of his secret lair above the fire station on Main Street in Disney Land. It is clear that Disney and National Geographic have some sort of agenda in common.
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