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Diploid
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Re: Give us Barabus [Re: Icelander]
#3966288 - 03/24/05 07:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Compared to how most reliqions are practiced I don't have a problem with satanism.
At least Satanism, as practiced by Crowley's followers, doesn't go on the offensive a la the Catholic Inquisition against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
And yeah, what's wrong with group sex?
-------------------- Republican Values: 1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you. 2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child. 3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer. 4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
Edited by Diploid (03/25/05 10:05 AM)
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TinTree
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Re: Christ on a Stick [Re: JCoke]
#3966679 - 03/24/05 09:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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JCoke said: Truth will never set Man free, only Doubt can bring freedom
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Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: TinTree]
#3966766 - 03/24/05 09:27 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread needs a little LOVE LIGHT.....!
Or, perhaps a lot.... It makes it nice, warm and cozy....
COOoooooooooooooooooooooo...................
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TinTree
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Jesu Christos.... another new TomCat username? You wacky schizo
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eMotionALLmotion
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: TinTree]
#3967218 - 03/24/05 11:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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TinTree said: Jesu Christos.... another new TomCat username? You wacky schizo
Ain't nuthin wrong with turnin a spicey "satanic" thread into a SOLARIUM.... It IS therapeutic....!
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: dr_gonz]
#3967269 - 03/24/05 11:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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is there such thing as good, evil, bad, etc? Or are they just ideas created by people to give some order to this "ocean of chaos". why is murder "bad"? Because it causes sadness? Why is that "bad"? I think the moral system is simply a way to improve the survival rate; that there is no such thing as good or bad.
this brings up another question though. why do living things want to survive/procreate?
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967303 - 03/24/05 11:47 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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fearfect said: why is murder "bad"? Because it causes sadness? Why is that "bad"? I think the moral system is simply a way to improve the survival rate; that there is no such thing as good or bad. . this brings up another question though. why do living things want to survive/procreate?
. Do you consider murder "good"....? And do you plan on "procreating"....?
Without "the moral system", more than likely your mom would have been gang raped, gutted, and left drying in the sun covered with ants and fly larva, and you would have never been - if she would have survived to a childbearing age.... That is just a guess tho~, I personally think the moral system is a good thing, and I would not ever wish those things upon your family as I just said above - it was an example of "life without morals".... ---Nice and StiNkY, like burnt death.... . What do you think....?
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fearfect
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I think you're playing into the game very well. No I don't consider murder "good" because if you read my post above, i said that I don't think there is such thing as good or bad; meaning things aren't good or bad, they just are. And also with your example of my mom getting gang raped and me never existing, that goes to prove my point of the moral system being in place and maintained by governments, or groups of people, to further the survival rate.
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eMotionALLmotion
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967353 - 03/25/05 12:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry if I misread.... Procreation is a good thing, as well as the survival rate.... The LOVE of "Family" is a wonderful thing.... And we are ALL family in one way or another....
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967354 - 03/25/05 12:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think religions were an early form of government. they set up a moral system which kept reasonable order throughout the society that they couldn't enforce otherwise. Threatening people with a divine being with more supposed power then anything else apparently scared them straight. Eventually religion separated from government and it still remains as a remnant in today's society where the government takes responsibility of maintaining order rather then GOD.
think egypt and the Pharoh. Its a great example.
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fearfect
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you're one of those hopeless, unreasonable optimists aren't you? I find it really difficult to hold debate with ... those kinds of people.
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967373 - 03/25/05 12:06 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have to admit, government and religion will never truly seperate, at least in the states.... If it does, in my eyes it would loose all credibility....
"In GOD we Trust"....
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967381 - 03/25/05 12:07 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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fearfect said: you're one of those hopeless, unreasonable optimists aren't you? I find it really difficult to hold debate with ... those kinds of people.
Yeah, the glass is all the way full, but all the way empty at the same time....
Love to yaz~....
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Zekebomb
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why is the thread called Christ on a Stick?
and: Good is what you like; Evil is what you dont like
so if what I like is to, say, be super nice all the time, and not indulge my carnal urges, and help old ladies across the street, and return lost wallets, and not steal even if I knew I couldn't get caught, etc.,? that's Good, then? Would I be shunned by my fellow satanists?
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: fearfect]
#3967757 - 03/25/05 06:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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fearfect said: is there such thing as good, evil, bad, etc? Or are they just ideas created by people to give some order to this "ocean of chaos". why is murder "bad"? Because it causes sadness? Why is that "bad"? I think the moral system is simply a way to improve the survival rate; that there is no such thing as good or bad.
this brings up another question though. why do living things want to survive/procreate?
Thigs are good or bad if we say they are good or bad. A certain wavelenght of light is red if we say it is red, and it is a warm color if we feel warmer by looking at it. It is pointless to go around saying: hey people, you have been programed, red is not red, it is just a certain wavelenght of light. A lot of people are aware of the relativity of things outside human minds, but we are not living outside our minds, but in our minds.
We have invented morality for a purpuse. So why should we not follow it?
It's like saying that you don't have to follow street signs because they are relative and invented in human head. they are practival, and so is morality.
No matter how fabricated and fake morality is, the society still has the right to defend itself from those who hurt it. We can put people in jail to protect ourselfs. Nobody is willing to stand there and be killed just because killing is not right or wrong.
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Icelander
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OldWoodSpecter said:
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Icelander said:
And whats wrong with group sex?
Takes away the magic and meaning, but then again casual sex does that too.
It doesn't have to. If you are with loving people it can work the same as if you are with your beloved.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
#3968159 - 03/25/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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We have invented morality for a purpuse. So why should we not follow it?
It's like saying that you don't have to follow street signs because they are relative and invented in human head. they are practival, and so is morality. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Morality is not a street sign. With that logic you could say drugs are illeagal, therefore you should not ever use them.
Morality is usually based on fear, and it's a tool to control people. You should know that.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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fearfect
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Re: Christ Sticks to the TRUTH..... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
#3968375 - 03/25/05 11:20 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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OldWoodSpecter said: Thigs are good or bad if we say they are good or bad. A certain wavelenght of light is red if we say it is red, and it is a warm color if we feel warmer by looking at it. It is pointless to go around saying: hey people, you have been programed, red is not red, it is just a certain wavelenght of light. A lot of people are aware of the relativity of things outside human minds, but we are not living outside our minds, but in our minds.
We have invented morality for a purpuse. So why should we not follow it?
It's like saying that you don't have to follow street signs because they are relative and invented in human head. they are practival, and so is morality.
No matter how fabricated and fake morality is, the society still has the right to defend itself from those who hurt it. We can put people in jail to protect ourselfs. Nobody is willing to stand there and be killed just because killing is not right or wrong.
i don't think that analogy works. we label the color red and assign it to a certain wavelength of light. That wavelength of light is very real and can be determined to be in the "red" category. My argument is that the thing which we label as good or bad, is not real. 'good' and 'bad' are just words; labels, that we are assigning to some concept. my argument is that the concept which we are assigning them to is fabricated.
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barfightlard
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Maybe in your opinion group sex takes away the magic. For others it might be what the magic is all about.
-------------------- "What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?" - Bill Hicks
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