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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 4
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lol how is *every* one of your posts some sort of a self report.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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pedophile Trump to sign order directing DOJ to criminally charge flag burning despite being protected speech

another blatant attempt to rule illegally via fiat.  this is also an obvious trap to smear legal protestors as people that hate America via his propaganda apparatus.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
lol how is *every* one of your posts some sort of a self report.



What do you disagree with that I've said?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
lol how is *every* one of your posts some sort of a self report.



It's pretty brutal.  Likely spent too long in certain echo chambers.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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Ice Nine said:
dinosaurs said:
lol how is *every* one of your posts some sort of a self report.



It's pretty brutal.  Likely spent too long in certain echo chambers.



LMAO. If you looked up echo chamber in the dictionary, you'd find a link to this website in the definition.

How often do ANY of you go onto political discussion forums where the vast majority disagrees with you in order to see what the exchange of ideas looks like? Do you understand how echo-chambers are created?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
The majority of human beings I know have had failed relationships and have been in court because of the opposite gender at some time in their life.



Holy fuck, lol.  Have you considered that you might be an outlier?
The majority of humans I know have absolutely not been in court "because" of the opposite gender and I think my experience is perhaps more typical than yours.  Who the fuck are you hanging out with, bro?  Is this why you keep referring to sexual assault as "50 shades of grey"?
Have the majority of the humans you know been to court because of the opposite gender?
You may choose only one


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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literally look at the last page here where most of the responses state some level of disagreement with the political philosophy of anarchy

do you understand how echo chambers are created? find me a single thread on this subforum that doesn't contain dissenting opinions


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
FoolOfElysium said:
The majority of human beings I know have had failed relationships and have been in court because of the opposite gender at some time in their life.



Holy fuck, lol.  Have you considered that you might be an outlier?
The majority of humans I know have absolutely not been in court "because" of the opposite gender and I think my experience is perhaps more typical than yours.  Who the fuck are you hanging out with, bro?  Is this why you keep referring to sexual assault as "50 shades of grey"?



You don't get to choose family, for better or worse... and despite their weakness, childhood friends are childhood friends.

You should specify your poll. I was referring to divorce court. Ironically, I also got a divorce years but it was cordial and we remained good friends. Everyone around me though... most of them had to hire lawyers or get the courts involved.

And while I tried to keep in gender neutral, the majority of offenders have been women who have destroyed men using divorce court, women in my own family included. It's gone the other way, too.

Most relationships fail. Divorce is over 50% and those still together aren't always happy. Considering some political affiliations marry less than others (and this is one way I actually side more with the left), it shouldn't be surprising that among demographics where marriage is more common (like my family's roots), we see more of this.

I'll never get married again because really it's just a trap for men and nothing good comes of it. :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
literally look at the last page here where most of the responses state some level of disagreement with the political philosophy of anarchy

do you understand how echo chambers are created? find me a single thread on this subforum that doesn't contain dissenting opinions



Fair point, but there's far more overlap in things you agree on than not still.

Yall are here because you're comfortable here. I'm here because it's somewhat *uncomfortable* and I kinda like it like that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
literally look at the last page here where most of the responses state some level of disagreement with the political philosophy of anarchy

do you understand how echo chambers are created? find me a single thread on this subforum that doesn't contain dissenting opinions




he's in a nearly 1800 page long thread of people debating back and forth about Trump and American fascism but sees it as an echo chamber because we all won't throat pedonalds little orange dick.  make it make sense...

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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I've had a lot of relationships, and very few of them have failed.  Have you considered that maybe the common denominator is you?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
I've had a lot of relationships, and very few of them have failed.  Have you considered that maybe the common denominator is you?



The only thing I said about me is that when my marriage ended it was cordial and we remained friends.

I don't know what your criteria for "success vs failure" is, because if you've had "a lot of relationships" then every single one of them, aside from the one you may currently have ongoing, has failed unless they were killed. In which case, my condolences.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 4
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FoolOfElysium said:
Fair point, but there's far more overlap in things you agree on than not still.

Yall are here because you're comfortable here. I'm here because it's somewhat *uncomfortable* and I kinda like it like that.



My reason for being here is an assumption on your part - I'm here because I like most of the posters and enjoy the fact that we have a wide variety of opinions that can lead to interesting debate which challenges my preconceptions. That is the antithesis of echo chamber.

An echo chamber is a closed system where people are insulated from rebuttal, leading to the amplification or reinforcement of their preexisting beliefs. There isn't a single political topic on this forum that doesn't see debate and disagreement.

How about you define the specific topics of overlap? because I think calling this place an echo chamber is just you coping with the fact that the vast majority of posters here think your ideas, specifically, are dogshit.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Enlil said:
I've had a lot of relationships, and very few of them have failed.  Have you considered that maybe the common denominator is you?



The only thing I said about me is that when my marriage ended it was cordial and we remained friends.

I don't know what your criteria for "success vs failure" is, because if you've had "a lot of relationships" then every single one of them, aside from the one you may currently have ongoing, has failed unless they were killed. In which case, my condolences.



Lol..so you think the only successful relationships are the ones that end in death?  What a sad life you're going to lead, bro.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Fair point, but there's far more overlap in things you agree on than not still.

Yall are here because you're comfortable here. I'm here because it's somewhat *uncomfortable* and I kinda like it like that.



My reason for being here is an assumption on your part - I'm here because I like most of the posters and enjoy the fact that we have a wide variety of opinions that can lead to interesting debate which challenges my preconceptions. That is the antithesis of echo chamber.

An echo chamber is a closed system where people are insulated from rebuttal, leading to the amplification or reinforcement their preexisting beliefs. There isn't a single political topic on this forum that doesn't see debate and disagreement.

How about your define the specific topics of overlap? because I think calling this place an echo chamber is just you coping with the fact that the vast majority of posters here think your ideas, specifically, are dogshit.



Excluding a few very infrequent posters, there's not a single local resident in these parts that even has a *nuanced* view on Trump. The consensus is he might as well the evil villain from some corny 80's movie with ZERO conflicting values or motives.

I mean even for those that oppose him, it would be closer to the truth to see him as a nuanced human like antagonists in Japanese Anime as opposed to some corny one dimensional Disney Villain from last century.

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An echo chamber is a closed system where people are insulated from rebuttal, leading to the amplification or reinforcement their preexisting beliefs.



Correct. This is a very closed social group where most of the posters here do a fantastic job to make people who share my views scared to even post here. (And half the nation shares many of my views, so what does that tell you?) There are topics you are allowed to speak about that won't bring you *criticism* as a human. If you share some of my views, however, the conversation often switches from the discussion of ideas to the discussion of... ME. Most people find that kind of dogpile too uncomfortable to handle. Certainly half the posters here (not you, I'd gamble), couldn't handle it if the roles were reversed. They'da bailed a long ass time ago.

If the regs here can't scare them away, then they can just antagonize them until they get banned. Again, they do this by making it personal and knowing how to walk the fine razor's edge of what insults are allowed. Plus, they have the moderator's favor.

So yes, this is a very nicely insulated echo-chamber where *certain acceptable* topics of agreement and disagreement can be engaged upon without upsetting the status quo.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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But this isn't our first time watching this movie.  The first time around, everyone in here gave trump a chance to show some value, but time and time again all he did was lie to us and bumble his way through his presidency.  There aren't any nuances to the man.  The fact that you still think there are after all this time only shows the depth of your commitment to your faith.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Enlil said:
I've had a lot of relationships, and very few of them have failed.  Have you considered that maybe the common denominator is you?



The only thing I said about me is that when my marriage ended it was cordial and we remained friends.

I don't know what your criteria for "success vs failure" is, because if you've had "a lot of relationships" then every single one of them, aside from the one you may currently have ongoing, has failed unless they were killed. In which case, my condolences.



Lol..so you think the only successful relationships are the ones that end in death?  What a sad life you're going to lead, bro.



Your personal jabs are fucking stupid.  You know nothing of my past and from my perspective you're mentally masturbating to your own fantasy. It's kinda pathetic.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
But this isn't our first time watching this movie.  The first time around, everyone in here gave trump a chance to show some value, but time and time again all he did was lie to us and bumble his way through his presidency.  There aren't any nuances to the man.  The fact that you still think there are after all this time only shows the depth of your commitment to your faith.



Are you kidding? The movie this time is night-and-day. Trump isn't getting cockblocked by bad actors and a Russia hoax. Plus, he knows D.C. and how to play politics way better. Do you really believe what you're saying? In another 3 1/2 years this country is going to be VASTLY different.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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He's being no more honest than he was the first time.  If anything, he's worse this time because he's openly promoting fascism.  He is the only president in my lifetime who does not have some good things about him.  Nuance doesn't apply when our president is literally human garbage.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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Are you kidding? The movie this time is night-and-day. Trump isn't getting cockblocked by bad actors and a Russia hoax. Plus, he knows D.C. and how to play politics way better. Do you really believe what you're saying? In another 3 1/2 years this country is going to be VASTLY different.




Doesn't feel different yet . Still the same racist piece of shit I've always known it to be .


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