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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: tittlez]
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^ I think you would be fine. How many transfers have you done?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies]
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I have a question about cabin sequestering. My scalpel work is not 100% the best, I saw in a video that you have to be really precise not to let the innoculant touch the carved out sides or it defeats the purpose. Is it a big deal if I make my cabin so it has a bit bigger of a gap than the 1-2mm I've seen? That way I have some wiggle room when placing my innoculant wedge? I know I'll need a bigger roof and I'm OK with that, but will it work?

I think it will work because Baba suggested innoculating an empty glass petri to have the mycelium crawl away, and we also use trenching method, so mycelium can cross agar-less gaps, but I'm wondering if that logic will apply to the CS method?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
^ I think you would be fine. How many transfers have you done?



Cool, thanks! I did at least 3 transfers


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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Yes, it will work but take slightly longer. Mycelium can stretch out over quite some distance. You can also cut like a 'big' rectangle or circle, land your wedge in the middle, then carefully shove it more to a corner or side. If you're unsure about your movements. It just has to bridge a gap, the gap does not have to be equally spaced. Grab the first myc that bridges.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
Yes, it will work but take slightly longer. Mycelium can stretch out over quite some distance. You can also cut like a 'big' rectangle or circle, land your wedge in the middle, then carefully shove it more to a corner or side. If you're unsure about your movements. It just has to bridge a gap, the gap does not have to be equally spaced. Grab the first myc that bridges.



Thanks man! I appreciate the reply!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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Prepping a few plates while I wait on a restock:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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Does this look like a isolated strain in the healthy looking section? Or can I isolate it further?

I had several tissue samples on a plate and transferred the healthiest tissue sample to this plate. I have not tried isolating a strain yet.

Also any comments on the uneven growth?

This is my first attempt at cloning. Grateful for  feedback.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper] * 1
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Don't worry about isolation, but rather good even growth. How many transfers have you done? Is this from spores? Clone?

I'd do one more transfer, the uneven part MIGHT indicate that there is something riding along there.  Grab 2 or 3 samples from this plate, put it on new ones. See if you now have uniform growth.

Looking overall very good, I'd just transfer once more at least.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies]
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I started a grow with spores and this is a clone from a pin. No transfers yet. Ok I will keep transferring until I get a healthy uniform growth.

Thanks

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper] * 2
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SporeHopper said:


Does this look like a isolated strain in the healthy looking section? Or can I isolate it further?

I had several tissue samples on a plate and transferred the healthiest tissue sample to this plate. I have not tried isolating a strain yet.

Also any comments on the uneven growth?

This is my first attempt at cloning. Grateful for  feedback.



Completely discard the idea of any kind of genetic isolation at this stage. I went round and round with this concept bc there's old info presenting the idea that you can take a transfer from different "sectors" and the genetics will be separate, unique cultures. Just toss that shit right outta your mind as if you never heard of it. 👍


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: sage_bd] * 1
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sage_bd said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Does anyone have any advice on how to achieve proper illumination? What are you guys using to illuminate from the side or even at all?

I'm using a S22 Ultra. I've tried food mode and manual zoom, but they're always blurry.




Do you have a grow light for your shrooms? That's what I use 6500k temp so nice and bright/white. Or maybe a really strong flashlight/headlamp?




I use the same. 6500 k LED tube light panels (the cheaper tubes also work).
12 hours on and 12 hours off. Don't need "grow lights", which cost more and often have other colors you don't need. Mine are "video lights."

They have two light color settings and a dimmer know, I put mine on 6500 and full brightness, but over a foot above the substrate.

That light temp and whiteness is also great for reading Miraculix shroom potency tests if you don't have the Colorimeter, according to the company.

Edited by nektar61 (01/18/25 11:23 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper]
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SporeHopper said:


Does this look like a isolated strain



"isolated strains" from taking transfers (along with the related b.s. "monocultures") is old, wrong info. Just try to get transfers from healthy spots.

Curious where you read that, was it an old book by Stamets?

I don't have a problem with the uneven growth. Some would say take another transfer, from the right side.

Except for that left top part, which I don't see as contam, this looks really good to me.

You can take much smaller transfers than that near square inch. Smaller is less likely to bring some contam over. You can do as small as size of a grain of rice.

Edited by nektar61 (01/18/25 11:25 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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I have absolutely destroyed the two sleeves of disposable petris that I got as a present. Now I'm hooked. I am too spoiled to go back to jars and tea glasses. Might even ditch my old faithful potato peeler and buy a regular scalpel.

So... Any tips, tricks and advices pertaining to glass / pyrex petris?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 3
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I read about isolating strains in Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar which were linked to in Hitchhikers Guide to Shroomery. I just assumed it was still relevant.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
SporeHopper said:


Does this look like a isolated strain



"isolated strains" from taking transfers (along with the related b.s. "monocultures") is old, wrong info. Just try to get transfers from healthy spots.

Curious where you read that, was it an old book by Stamets?

I don't have a problem with the uneven growth. Some would say take another transfer, from the right side.

Except for that left top part, which I don't see as contam, this looks really good to me.

You can take much smaller transfers than that near square inch. Smaller is less likely to bring some contam over. You can do as small as size of a grain of rice.



:whatshesaid:

I would like to see a back lit photo of that upper left, before recommending two separate transfers one each (left/right) and see how they perform compared to the other.

But That's a good looking plate, what's the recipe?

Edited by LewDoja (01/19/25 04:49 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper]
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SporeHopper said:
I read about isolating strains in Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar which were linked to in Hitchhikers Guide to Shroomery. I just assumed it was still relevant.



I was where you are, which made it difficult to understand what other people were saying bc I thought sectoring was a thing. Visually, I guess they're "sectors", but genetically, it doesn't matter and having that explained made other shit make sense. That part of his write up should probably be removed at some point so new growers aren't obsessing about it.

Silver lining - it's proof you're reading the material anyway.

Sometimes things just fall through the cracks though and this is one of those things.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper]
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SporeHopper said:


Does this look like a isolated strain in the healthy looking section? Or can I isolate it further?

I had several tissue samples on a plate and transferred the healthiest tissue sample to this plate. I have not tried isolating a strain yet.

Also any comments on the uneven growth?

This is my first attempt at cloning. Grateful for  feedback.



Sweet Jesus look at the rizos. Take several leading edge samples and re-plate them. Something fishy between 10 and 12 o'clock.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG] * 10
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T3, F1 Ghost x PE from 3.A.M. :rockon:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dude!?!?:begger:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SporeHopper]
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SporeHopper said:
I read about isolating strains in Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar which were linked to in Hitchhikers Guide to Shroomery. I just assumed it was still relevant.



No. seeking "monoculture" "sectors" is bunk.

I've tried to address it, in my article "GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS" linked in my sig line, I link Stro's guide but say
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Learn to transfer away from contams (contaminations) on agar. (Note, the transfer info is good, but the "monoculture" "sector" stuff is outdated and wrong. Ignore that.)



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Because other than that bad old wrong error, that's a great tutorial and I haven't found a better one. I asked Stro to fix it but he hasn't been on here in years.

I'll ask BeefSupremeJr if he'll add something about it in his otherwise good guide (which I also link in my guide).

Edited by nektar61 (01/24/25 12:54 AM)

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