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FGL
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5347079 - 02/27/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5368195 - 03/05/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Check with chroming shops if you don't find them at surplus stores.
Phonebook->auto section->custom/finishing/chrome
Most of them have more used plastic drums than they know what to do with. At least in the 80's they did.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5368734 - 03/05/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I make my compost cage out of concrete re enforcing fence.
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agar
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Psychoslut]
#5368746 - 03/05/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: I make my compost cage out of concrete re enforcing fence.
Commonly called RE-BAR. (good stuff & cheap)
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FGL
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5385134 - 03/10/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a very cheap supply of these kind composters:

they are 450 liters capacity.
Any reason I shouldnt use them in place of the plastic drums?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
#5385286 - 03/10/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
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anarchist0999 said: thanks for this, seems easy enough.
one thing id like to know is: where do you guys go for poop? random stables & ranches? feed stores? that would prolly be the hardest to acquire for me.
I feel like the most difficult item to get would be the 55 gallon drum. I don't even know where to start looking for something like that. Agar says the surplus supply stores.. but I'm not exactly sure what that is or how to find any in my area.
The horse poo you just get from people with horses. Ask them if you can get some poop from their field for your garden or something.
Look for companies who bottle soda pop. I.E. coca cola, pepsi...they use these 55 gallon drums to store the syrup to make thier beverages. Any emergency preparedness store should carry them. Hope that helps some.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5385333 - 03/10/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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FGL said: I have a very cheap supply of these kind composters:

they are 450 liters capacity.
Any reason I shouldnt use them in place of the plastic drums?
Those will work fine.
But, you will have to WORK MORE to pitch fork mix the content, every so often.
With drums, you can tip one on its side & roll it back & forth to mix & aerate the content.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5385365 - 03/10/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you've got the $$ for it, a TUMBLER would work well.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FooMan]
#5385449 - 03/10/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Well, hell....go BIG, if ya got the bucks
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5385502 - 03/10/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would this recipe work scaled down?
I mean WAY scaled down. Maybe... 1/11ths (To fit in a 5 gallon bucket).
3 gallons of straw 1.36 gallons of horse manure 3 cups of fruit/produce refuse 2.16 oz. of gypsum 2.9 oz. of vegetable oil
And about 1/2 gallon of water for the waterings.
Think that would work out?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Hoss]
#5385568 - 03/10/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any smaller than a 55 G drum, you don't have much mass. The mass is what generates heat. That heat, speeds the process.
Hell - you could could make compost in a gallon jar. But, the smaller it gets, the less heat it generates. Meaning, it takes WAY more time to get the job done.
Rather than go that SMALL. I would just use well weathered h/poo as substrate. If you have a source.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5388511 - 03/11/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you need to pasterize the compost before using it?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: nambi]
#5388562 - 03/11/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would strongly suggest one does. It's easy.
 A few hours of steeping at 150F, is all it takes.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5446563 - 03/27/06 07:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seeing how easy Agar makes seem the home made compost I finally decided to do my own. 
I could get what follows:
wheat straw horse manure coffee grounds fruit/produce refuse soy bean meal blood meal Hot air popped pop corn gypsum powder vegetable oil
and my questions are:
what are the best ratio to use?
What are the best fruit to use?
Is ok to add tomatos ? how much?
any other vegetables?
In my area the tap water is very hard, should I use it?
Thanks!
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5446659 - 03/27/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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An easy guideline for composting is a ratio of 25-30:1. That's 1 part nitrate based products such as green leaves, fruits and vegies, manures, exc. to 25-30 parts of carbon based products such as cured straw, dry grass clippings, dry leaves, coir, paper bags, exc.
Well weathered horse manure is about the best material to replicate the perfect compost mixture. It's ratio is around 25:1 somewhat fresh. I'd use it instead of composting IMHO. But, composting is a good trade to learn too.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5446685 - 03/27/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You want the main pile volume ratio's to be about.
70% wheat straw & 30% h/poo (you can go 60/40, 75/25, 80/20%. No big deal)
To that, you can add an additional,
20% fruit/produce (leaf type greens) refuse, hot air popped p/corn, coffee ground mix. No particular ratio. Just whatever you have. Except don't go over 20% additional combined total.
As for adding fruits. Whatever you can get FREE or CHEAP. Apples are good (crushed). But, go with whatever is local & inexpensive, or free. Tomatoes are fine (crushed).
As for gypsum powder, about 1 kilo per 60 kilo of pile.
As for vegetable oil, about 1 liter per 50 kilo of pile.
With the above mix, no need for blood or soy bean meal. (instead, I would add just a few shovel fulls of poultry litter. (if you can get some FREE)
The object is to get the best combination, with ease & cheaply.
If I recall, you have a shredder. I would suggest shedding everything, fine (around 1 or 3 inch).
That will get the pile working faster & it will complete quicker.
As it will result in faster heat up & a fine compost texture.
Think of the pile as a meal, for yourself (except its for mycelium).
You want meat (in this case h/poo), potatoes/vegetable (in this case wheat straw). Those are the main ingredients.
All in all, the rest is desert & the vegetable oil is the wine.
(note, if there is a beer brewery anywhere around you. Spent grains from breweries, is also a good addition).
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5446886 - 03/27/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snaggletooth said: I found my lifetime supply of FREE hpoo on craigslist 
Just have not took advantage of it yet.
Well I checked this craigs list out and found I could get this for free, but its not just horse poo, heres what it says," Very nice Organic horse, goat and Alpaca manure, mixed with hay and straw. Some is already black soil." Do you all think it would work or not?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Rickster]
#5447085 - 03/27/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks good 
I think I should get my AA 941 soon 
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#5452061 - 03/28/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What exactly is "fruit/produce refuse?" I have a friend who is the manager at a local grocery store, but Im sure he's going to look at me with a dumbfounded look on his face if i tell him i need fruit/produce refuse. What exactly is it? Need to know what im asking for.
BTW you are the shit Agar. I was looking at Highmountaincompost.com and almost pissed my pants when i read that they sell 3.50 per pound! Yikes, their is no way im ever buying compost small amounts of compost at those prices when it seems so easy to make more than ill know what to do with for so cheap. 
Not to knock the website down BTW, im sure their product is awesome for those who dont have the means of making their own compost, but im def not in that category.
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Jaeger
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Akira]
#5452157 - 03/28/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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fruit/produce refuse = fruit that is spoiled, or bruised. Ya know, stuff they can't sell anymore. Because it is just a tiny bit too old.
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