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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Akira] 1
#5452243 - 03/28/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice thread, Agar
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Jaeger]
#5454089 - 03/29/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jaeger said: fruit/produce refuse = fruit that is spoiled, or bruised. Ya know, stuff they can't sell anymore. Because it is just a tiny bit too old.
So rotten fruits or vegetables are fine?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5454387 - 03/29/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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FGL said:
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Jaeger said: fruit/produce refuse = fruit that is spoiled, or bruised. Ya know, stuff they can't sell anymore. Because it is just a tiny bit too old.
So rotten fruits or vegetables are fine?
YES........
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5455993 - 03/29/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And what about if the fruits have mold?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5458269 - 03/30/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5458768 - 03/30/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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FGL said: And what about if the fruits have mold?
Still good to go.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5458774 - 03/30/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would think that the heat that the compost generates would take care of most nasties. Besides, you are pasturizing it before use.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Jaeger]
#5458859 - 03/30/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Many thanks Agar for all this great info!
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: Jaeger]
#5458925 - 03/30/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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If your pile has enough bulk to it. It will generate temperatures that will kill most contaminate type molds. Besides that, other microbes in the pile will EAT the bastards. 
Any that survive get killed of in phase 2 (peak heating) pasteurization. If you are unable to peak heat bulk amounts.
Simply pasteurize smaller amounts in plastic bags, using a pot of hot water, before use.
To insure things. I would pasteurize compost much longer than most do here.
It is not difficult (or expensive)to modify an old refrigerator, or any type large metal cabinet, or even build a big wooden box - with shelves. That you can place big shallow trays of compost in. Then heat the container to the 150 / 155F constant range for 2 or 3 days.
A small electric hot plate, with a metal pot of water heated on it. Will usually do the trick. Just make sure the pot doesn't steam dry.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#5481711 - 04/05/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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agar said:
A small electric hot plate, with a metal pot of water heated on it. Will usually do the trick. Just make sure the pot doesn't steam dry.
What do you think about an electric hot plate under a metal drum? the metal drum will have about 30cm of water in the bottom like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4355760
so better to pasteurized for two days with this tek as well?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5485499 - 04/06/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5499099 - 04/10/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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FGL said:
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agar said:
A small electric hot plate, with a metal pot of water heated on it. Will usually do the trick. Just make sure the pot doesn't steam dry.
What do you think about an electric hot plate under a metal drum? the metal drum will have about 30cm of water in the bottom like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4355760
so better to pasteurized for two days with this tek as well?
Where are you, AGAR?
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5499186 - 04/10/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The popcorn interests me. Do you think the endospores are killed during the heating & popping? Could you add 50/50 water to popped corn and then sterilize it with a simple steaming?
Have you tried normal oil popped corn? seems the oil should be no problem since you are already recommending to add veg oil to the mixture anyway.
Do you think popcorn could be used alone as a bulk sub? soak and squeeze and just spawn as normal.
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: blackout]
#5606243 - 05/08/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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blackout said: The popcorn interests me. Do you think the endospores are killed during the heating & popping?
I have the same question, HELP with This!!!
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: FGL]
#5606399 - 05/08/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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FGL said:
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FGL said:
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agar said:
A small electric hot plate, with a metal pot of water heated on it. Will usually do the trick. Just make sure the pot doesn't steam dry.
What do you think about an electric hot plate under a metal drum? the metal drum will have about 30cm of water in the bottom like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4355760
so better to pasteurized for two days with this tek as well?
Where are you, AGAR?
Per his PM message he says he will not be around for the next few weeks.
So I would figure it out with out him or just wait till he's back
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Re: Agar's Home Made Compost recipe for bulk substrates [Re: agar]
#27200914 - 02/12/21 05:50 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Asura can i use grain to replace fruit or meat? Ie rye and oats (non prep or crushed)
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