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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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From their own website:

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An abstract led by the team at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center was published in the United European Gastroenterology Journal, October 2019, titled “Internally Applied Ultraviolet Light as a Novel Approach for Effective and Safe Anti-Microbial Treatment.” Here, the authors show that UVA light exhibits significant in vitro bactericidal effects in an array of clinically important bacteria.



And I'm sure they signed a bunch of pieces of paper. You'll forgive me for not taking seriously a five year old biotech startup that has never turned a profit (according to their own financial disclosures), has a stock that has literally never gone up in value (see: never turned a profit, above), and managed to have an IPO within six months of founding based on a promised (and yet undelivered) "male infertility treatment".

Wanna see their press release?

It's an entire five slides!

EDIT: When I say abstract, I mean abstract only. It wasn't even mentioned as an article in the UEG journal issue.

I'm also a bit iffy on a journal that appears to be less than a decade old, but I haven't found it on any common predatory publication lists. Yet.

Edited by Kryptos (04/30/20 04:27 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Did you read your own press release?
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It's also been proven in the lab that at the right wattage and duration UVA light is still effective at killing a variety of viruses and bacteria - including the Coronavirus



Also, did you miss the links in my last post with additional detail of the ongoing studies?


Whether or not you take world class doctors seriously is up to you.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Dude, UV light has been used to disinfect shit for the last hundred years. That's not exactly "groundbreaking technology".

You will notice that the doctors say the same thing:

Quote:
“Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells,”



You will also notice that the doctors are very careful in their wording, in all of those links.

The doctors themselves are correct, I believe the doctor that says "UV light can kill bacteria", because I have a UV irradiation cabinet specifically for that purpose in my lab right now. Matter of fact, I think I've had access to one in every lab I've ever worked with, including my 8th grade chemistry class.

I take issue with claiming that this is groundbreaking. UV light kills shit, yes. Sticking a UV light up your ass might literally sterilize your shit. Sure, that makes sense. Ish. Claiming this is a miracle cure is idiotic at best.

Assuming that a company that can't turn a profit will make this miracle cure...well, see idiotic at best, above.

Edited by Kryptos (04/30/20 04:43 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
I take issue with claiming that this is groundbreaking. UV light kills shit, yes. Sticking a UV light up your ass might literally sterilize your shit. Sure, that makes sense. Ish. Claiming this is a miracle cure is idiotic at best.



That was a serious change of goalposts from not taking this seriously to of course it's serious but it's no miracle.

You're the only who called it a miracle cure, by the way.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Goalposts haven't moved.

UV light can be used to disinfect things. Bleach can be used to disinfect things.

I don't suggest putting either of those things inside your body. If we're treating any possible disinfectant as a potential cure, I think we should put "hand grenade shoved up ass" on the table as well, because that'll definitely cure what ails ya. If it doesn't, you'll at least never worry about it again.

If you want to be pedantic, sure, maybe it's worth "looking into". Personally, I'd be more focused on the type of things that we are good at, like figuring out a way to bind drugs to the "spike" protein that makes Covid so dangerous. I personally know of several research groups that have promising results with both SARS and MERS coronaviruses using this method. Matter of fact, my parents are the PIs in one of those groups. I've done protein NMR for them.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Kryptos said:
Goalposts haven't moved.

UV light can be used to disinfect things. Bleach can be used to disinfect things.

I don't suggest putting either of those things inside your body.



Feel free to take your suggestion to the doctors who are working on this, as you know more about the subject than they do.

Kryptos said:
If you want to be pedantic, sure, maybe it's worth "looking into".



That's not being pedantic, that's what the last 10 posts were about.  :flowstone:

Kryptos said:
Personally, I'd be more focused on the type of things that we are good at, like figuring out a way to bind drugs to the "spike" protein that makes Covid so dangerous. I personally know of several research groups that have promising results with both SARS and MERS coronaviruses using this method. Matter of fact, my parents are the PIs in one of those groups. I've done protein NMR for them.



Who said we shouldn't focus on those things?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Kryptos said:
If you want to be pedantic, sure, maybe it's worth "looking into".



That's not being pedantic, that's what the last 10 posts were about.  :flowstone:



Using the same logic:

The brisance effect of common explosives is extremely damaging to all sorts of viral and bacterial life. Additionally, the energy is commonly released in a high pressure and and high temperature wave, and as we all know, high temperatures and pressures are extremely effective at sterilizing objects they interact with.

"I see that explosion, where it knocks it out in a minute...less, milliseconds... is there a way that we can do something like that by injection inside?"

I expect you to defend this statement with the same rigor. We should look into the validity of hand grenade-to-ass interactions when it comes to coronavirus.

If you would like me to source any of the above claims, I can do that. But we're just looking into it, so I don't think any sort of evidence of effectiveness is necessary. I can whip up an abstract and an LLC, maybe.

EDIT: Additionally, I know of a few types of drug therapy that could de described as "miniature explosions", so that idea about shoving a hand grenade up your ass? Not so crazy after all, huh? Makes more sense than a lightbulb on a tube that is used to shine down the miles of blood vessels, the square meters of internal lung surfaces, and the other trillions of cells in the human body.

Edited by Kryptos (04/30/20 07:24 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Kryptos said:
Using the same logic:

The brisance effect of common explosives is extremely damaging to all sorts of viral and bacterial life. Additionally, the energy is commonly released in a high pressure and and high temperature wave, and as we all know, high temperatures and pressures are extremely effective at sterilizing objects they interact with.

"I see that explosion, where it knocks it out in a minute...less, milliseconds... is there a way that we can do something like that by injection inside?"

I expect you to defend this statement with the same rigor. We should look into the validity of hand grenade-to-ass interactions when it comes to coronavirus.

If you would like me to source any of the above claims, I can do that. But we're just looking into it, so I don't think any sort of evidence of effectiveness is necessary. I can whip up an abstract and an LLC, maybe.

EDIT: Additionally, I know of a few types of drug therapy that could de described as "miniature explosions", so that idea about shoving a hand grenade up your ass? Not so crazy after all, huh? Makes more sense than a lightbulb on a tube that is used to shine down the miles of blood vessels, the square meters of internal lung surfaces, and the other trillions of cells in the human body.



If you know of any medical doctors that are researching using hand grenades as a possible cure for coronavirus, I'd love to see a link to that research!  Because then you'd be exactly right, it would be 'the same logic'.

I've already shown you that doctors at Cedars-Sinai are currently looking into UV as a possible cure for coronavirus.  :popcorn:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I gave you a link of "explosive" drug delivery methods by actual doctors doing actual research. Close enough. I even added a plausibly trumpy quote for you to run with.

Either way, I figure Aytu Bioscience are gonna be a good stock pump-and-dump if they stay in the news. The research team is probably getting paid a flat fee, sadly.

I expect less than zero success, at least on the medical side.

Edit: Actually, it looks like the initial pump-and-dump is over. Damn. I was hoping for another CCL.

Edited by Kryptos (04/30/20 08:10 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I wonder if in six months time we are talking about that small  biotech company that was looking into UV treatment.

Whatever happened to that anyway.:shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
That's not really the crux of the issue people have with it.  A press conference is not the place to be throwing out stupid ideas.  Trump could have meetings with these people and discuss all of his options in those meetings.  A leader doesn't speak in public without considering his words carefully.  This is why Trump is a terrible leader.



That sums up the important bits


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
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I think it's a step in the right direction for people to wake up and reevaluate the government. It's silly to task one person with the job of the president.

I think it's silly to look up to the president as well

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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If trump ends the lockdown i think I'll probably vote for the first time ever

Quote:
Life is always in a constant state of change. Everything that has a beginning and has an end. Life, relations, things will all wear out and crumble one day. A glass is created and will eventually break.




If only to participate in being a part in the destruction.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
A ton of people is like 20 people, tops, and that's if they're very small women.



Sometimes the technical precision of the legal mind can get tedious, but I like this one. Those 20 to a ton women are among my favorite women.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Tedious:burke:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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I mean, a couple tons of people waving guns around are the entire "reopen" movement.

Seriously, there's a grand total of maybe 500-1000 such "protesters" countrywide.

There were literal millions during the women's March, the science March, and the impeachment protests.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
I gave you a link of "explosive" drug delivery methods by actual doctors doing actual research. Close enough.



You'll have to explain the closeness of the "'explosive' drug delivery methods by actual doctors doing actual research" that you claim was in the article and hand grenades.  I missed it in your article.

Kryptos said:
I expect less than zero success, at least on the medical side.



Because that could make Trump look good?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Cedars Sinai has elevators that automatically stop at every floor on Saturdays so Jews don’t have to push any buttons on the sabbath. My point is, sticking a lightbulb in the ass isn’t the first weird idea embraced at cedars Sinai.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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So this thing with words, how does something as beautiful because it's a beautiful thing

end up, as badly communicated as this, which you all know, was probably communicated better than anybody has communicated something before, at least that's what they tell me.

And then, I said to myself, you know what, maybe it's this thing with a light bulb, and somebody's ass, it could be anybody's ass right, who knows?

But maybe some light, with some bleach, maybe I think, I think that could work am I right of course I'm right.

I don't see a problem with Trump's logic now you mention it.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Kryptos said:
I gave you a link of "explosive" drug delivery methods by actual doctors doing actual research. Close enough.



You'll have to explain the closeness of the "'explosive' drug delivery methods by actual doctors doing actual research" that you claim was in the article and hand grenades.  I missed it in your article.

Kryptos said:
I expect less than zero success, at least on the medical side.



Because that could make Trump look good?



Why are you asking me to provide you evidence, when a quote with a less than elementary grasp on language had you jumping about looking for evidence to support it?

And an explosion is a redox chemical reaction that occurs and propagates faster than the speed of sound. Disulfide bonds break faster than the speed of sound. ADC conjugates with a disulfide based drug payload are explosive.

Checkmate, maga.

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