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Why Iraq is like Viet Nam
    #2532440 - 04/06/04 07:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There are too many to list, but let's focus on number 3 for this discussion

1. No immediate threat to the USA.

2. No Congressional Declaration of War. (resolution 114 was NOT a formal declaration of war, more like the ancient Roman senate giving Caesar "temporary" dictatorial powers.)

3. The "enemy" is not clearly delineated.

During the Vietnam "War", the Viet Cong would frequently be indistinguishable from "neutral" civilians. US soldiers, fearful of being shot or booby-trapped by an invisible enemy, would take to all-too-often killing ordinary non-combative farmers and sometimes whole villages. The thinking went, "Hey, I would rather be wrong than dead." I do NOT fault the soldiers, but the untenable position that they were put in.

Fast-forward to 2004. The soldiers are getting picked off almost daily from unseen enemies. This creates hyper-paranoia and will lead to more and more "over-reactive" killing of non-violent civilians, which will in turn breed more anti-American sentiment which in turn will fuel more attacks and hence more backlash and so on. This escalation is inevitable. Is this Operation Infinite Resolve or Operation Infinite Stupidity?


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Swami]
    #2532792 - 04/06/04 09:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

invading iraq was the single worst
mistake the administration could have
ever made. as if i need to tell you
guys that.


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Swami]
    #2532848 - 04/06/04 09:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's basially Operation Get Revenge for Daddy.

How did the Vietnam War end again? Wasn't it something like gradually transferring our efforts to a halfassed and unenthuiastic South Vietnamese army which basically was no longer under attack once we left? Or did we lose that war? I don't think Communism swept the world when we left either, or is my memory wrong?


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: question_for_joo]
    #2532860 - 04/06/04 09:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Someone had to draw a line in the scorched earth. :yesnod:


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: ]
    #2532872 - 04/06/04 09:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I thought you loved Bush





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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2532901 - 04/06/04 09:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I love bush, if by bush you mean vagina.


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2532911 - 04/06/04 09:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I did mean vagina.




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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2532919 - 04/06/04 09:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That is what brown bags were invented for.


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: ]
    #2532967 - 04/06/04 10:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

immaculate said:
invading iraq was the single worst
mistake the administration could have
ever made.



I only wish that were so.


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: silversoul7]
    #2533096 - 04/06/04 10:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

People don't talk enough about how much of an asshole JFK was for starting Vietnam. That war was even more unnessesary than "Operation Iraqi Liberation".






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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2534512 - 04/07/04 11:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Explain to me exactly how JFK started Vietnam. I must be greatly confused on some issues.


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Re: Why Iraq is like Viet Nam [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2534528 - 04/07/04 12:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There's an interesting book about it by Chomsky called "Rethinking Camelot: JFK, the Vietnam War, and US Political Culture"


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