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9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church * 1
    #21821564 - 06/18/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/17/white-gunman-sought-in-shooting-at-historic-charleston-african-ame-church/


Police are searching for a gunman who opened fire Wednesday night at a historic African American church in downtown Charleston, S.C. Charleston officials said nine people were killed and others injured.

Police said the victims had gathered Wednesday night in the church for a prayer meeting when the shooting occurred. Police are now searching for the suspect, described as a white male in his early 20s, who is clean-shaven and has a small build. Police said he was wearing a gray sweatshirt, blue jeans and Timberland boots. He is believe to be the only shooter.


“I do believe this is a hate crime,” Charleston Police Chief Greg Mullen said at a late night news conference, without explaining the basis for his conclusion.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Astral Pain] * 2
    #21821597 - 06/18/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it had been a black man shooting and it was at a white church the article would just read "Church shooting, 9 dead".


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821618 - 06/18/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. And white on black= Instant hate crime


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #21821641 - 06/18/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
If it had been a black man shooting and it was at a white church the article would just read "Church shooting, 9 dead".




Has this EVER happened?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821673 - 06/18/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whether it has or hasn't is irrelevant to what I said. Though there are plenty of stories of black people shooting white people and race is never mentioned, especially not in the headline.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821691 - 06/18/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's like the recent cop shooting incidents where they leave out the race if it's a black cop, and even decline to answer when asked.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821737 - 06/18/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If it had been a black man shooting and it was at a white church the article would just read "Church shooting, 9 dead".




So are you implying the media tries to cover up black crimes?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #21821749 - 06/18/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't say cover up. I'd say it's more like trying to instigate a race war. Any time a black person actually is or seemingly is victimized by a white person, it's in the headline, it's said multiple times throughout the article. Yet when the tables are turned, it's actually becoming unusual to even see race mentioned once somewhere deep down, near the middle or end of the article.

I'm by far not the only person to notice this.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821768 - 06/18/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whether it has or hasn't is irrelevant to what I said. Though there are plenty of stories of black people shooting white people and race is never mentioned, especially not in the headline.




Then how the fuck do you know who was black and who was white?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821774 - 06/18/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

By Googling their names. :shrug: Not that difficult.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip] * 3
    #21821786 - 06/18/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is that what you guys do? You google crime victims and perpetrators to see what their races are?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821790 - 06/18/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No actually I read news articles about shootings that just happen to pop up on my radar and become suspicious when "White man shoots black man" isn't plastered all over the article. So I confirm my suspicions.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 1
    #21821796 - 06/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
If it had been a black man shooting and it was at a white church the article would just read "Church shooting, 9 dead".




So are you implying the media tries to cover up black crimes?




I think such a headline would almost definitely include something about possible terror links with ISIS or boko haram being under investigation


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821797 - 06/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, so that is exactly what you are doing.  You google crime victims and perpetrators to see what their races are.

Seems a little obsessive.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821798 - 06/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I wouldn't say cover up. I'd say it's more like trying to instigate a race war. Any time a black person actually is or seemingly is victimized by a white person, it's in the headline, it's said multiple times throughout the article. Yet when the tables are turned, it's actually becoming unusual to even see race mentioned once somewhere deep down, near the middle or end of the article.

I'm by far not the only person to notice this.




Dude do we live in the same country? Also, I came across this headline in one of my newsfeeds. It didnt mention that the shooter was white at all :shrug:


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821801 - 06/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What do you guys suppose the motivation is then?  Was this a botched robbery or what?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821810 - 06/18/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Regardless of race, this is just horrible. Why does race always seem to be the critics concern? These people gathered to worship the god they believe in... How sad.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: shellzenone] * 1
    #21821816 - 06/18/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's probably because the church was connected with the black civil rights movement. The gunman was almost definitely a terrorist attack motivated by racism, probably a neo Nazi or one of those Christian Identity fuckjobs.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #21821818 - 06/18/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've been saying it for years... The way the media portrays black people in such glowing terms makes me sick. You never see anything negative about black people or their culture. :rolleyes:

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Shroomslip said:
I wouldn't say cover up. I'd say it's more like trying to instigate a race war. Any time a black person actually is or seemingly is victimized by a white person, it's in the headline, it's said multiple times throughout the article. Yet when the tables are turned, it's actually becoming unusual to even see race mentioned once somewhere deep down, near the middle or end of the article.

I'm by far not the only person to notice this.




Dude do we live in the same country? Also, I came across this headline in one of my newsfeeds. It didnt mention that the shooter was white at all :shrug:




They were giving a description of the shooter, since he's on the loose. Is it ok that we can mention race if the perp is still at large?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: shellzenone] * 3
    #21821823 - 06/18/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Regardless of race, this is just horrible. Why does race always seem to be the critics concern? These people gathered to worship the god they believe in... How sad.




I think its even worse when people pull the race card and then later theyre like "why is this always about race we need to pull together"


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