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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21824404 - 06/18/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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White terrorist suspect arrested in killing of nine at black U.S. church
That didn't leave room for interpretation.
^^^ would have been more descriptive
Might have been more descriptive but it wasn't the headline.
http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-erupts-church-charleston-south-carolina-021744448.html#
Take it up with them.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Patlal]
#21824427 - 06/18/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Just wanna chime in about the gun talk here.
I am from Canada and have never met a person that owned a gun and have honestly never really seen a gun in person besides like on a police officer I guess. I don't even know where you would get a gun and they are certainly rare as fuck to find on the streets.
I find it weird to think in America most households have a gun.
Now try to find some ammo
Also Cabela's: http://www.cabelas.ca/category/ammunition/914
It's meant to be a one-stop-shop for hunting and outdoor sports.
Even tactical rifles for the bigger wildlife: http://www.cabelas.ca/category/tacticaltarget/1132
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Tantrika]
#21824437 - 06/18/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe Patlal doesn't get out much.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Tantrika]
#21824439 - 06/18/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think one of the victims might have been gay too...not sure because it doesn't say....i'm just taking a wild guess.....
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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: jboredone]
#21824442 - 06/18/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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or if not gay....maybe bi-curious.....
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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: jboredone]
#21824460 - 06/18/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wut
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824533 - 06/18/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: At what point would you condemn these actions as a horribly inhuman act motivated by racial prejudice? The time for skepticism is passed, unless you're going the conspiracy route which there is another subforum for that.
The moment I saw the headlines stating some asshole had killed 9 people.
Well you must have done it offline, because that is not what you said here. You said "must be one of God's plans" or something like that.
That was a mocking of religion.
You know: Person 1: He was in a crash, broke both legs, three ribs and has brain damage. Person 2: It's God's plan.
I see. So what you initially felt was something along the lines of, "what an inhuman act of blind hatred and ignorance", but you felt it was more relevant to poke fun at their religious beliefs.
I understand that there is a dual standard for black and white people, that is the direct result of racism. "Black" for one is several times more diverse than white if you look at people generally classified as black in the US. A black only church, if that is what it was, is still racially diverse, as is a church full of only whites. A group of whites could be more different from each-other genetically than a group of blacks and whites.
The only way these things are defined is through the pseudoscience of racism, which has mostly disappeared from actual science but is still perpetrated by the media and popular culture. You can say that "hey the media talks about white and black people as if it mattered, so it must matter, get them to stop being racist ", but that doesn't validate racism it just makes you a sucker who projects racial ideals onto a simple identifying characteristic that can be viewed as only skin deep. As far as the other ways we are different, the same can be said of two whites.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods] 1
#21824566 - 06/18/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patlal said: How about less gun death and less crime? Both go hand in hand. Don't you want that?
Maybe things are different up in Canada, but owning a gun does not make you more likely of committing a crime. 
Poverty and crime go hand in hand. Not guns. Do some reading on socioeconomics if you wanna form a convincing argument.
No, it just shortens your and everyone else's life expectancy. http://www.upenn.edu/ldi/issuebrief11_2.pdf
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Cause of death. Days Lung cancer 197 Motor vehicle accidents 161 Breast cancer (Females) 145 Firearms 104 Colon cancer 67 Poisoning 66 Prostate cancer (Males) 47 Suffocation 39 Falls 25
Makes more sense to remove your daughter's tits than to remove your son's foreskin.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21824575 - 06/18/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I see. So what you initially felt was something along the lines of, "what an inhuman act of blind hatred and ignorance", but you felt it was more relevant to poke fun at their religious beliefs.
No. I said at religion. I'm not sure what your race issue is, I'm just glad I don't share it. I would have said the same thing if the ethnicities had been reversed.
You come across as one of those "hey, I'm not racist, I have lots of black friends" kind of guy. Perhaps before casting aspersions about what you perceive as the shortcomings of others, you should examine yours.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824608 - 06/18/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: Maybe Patlal doesn't get out much.
To be honest, today was a bit of a learning experience to me as well. Was aware that we had licensing for handguns, but had actually somehow missed/ignored that tactical rifles were covered under it as well. 
Also found out some other interesting tidbits that:
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Very few applications are denied. In 2011 there were 99,677 licences issued, and only 519 refusals, about 0.5%
You don't need to be a resident or citizen of Canada to hold a Canadian firearms licence.
http://www.howtogetagun.ca/
But yeah, basically just have to write and pass the appropriate gun safety test. Restricted arms are licensed separately from our regular hunting rifles, and require a more specialized test but it is a less involved process than my previous thoughts.
May actually look into getting my RPAL rather than just holding the standard PAL.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824610 - 06/18/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't categorize my friends into black and white, so no you'd not be likely to find me saying that. If someone looks dark-skinned I will call them black if it help distinguish them from another light-skinned person, but I'm not dumb enough to think that has anything to do with who they are as a person other than how much light their skin reflects. It's not a race, it is a skin characteristic that is displayed by many subgroups of the human species.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21824623 - 06/18/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps you should rethink your approach as I have little doubt about the "hey, I'm not racist, I have lots of black friends".
It's how you come across when you lecture people about race who simply don't care what race people are.
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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#21824648 - 06/18/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Police are searching for a gunman who opened fire Wednesday night at a historic African American church in downtown Charleston, S.C. Charleston officials said nine people were killed and others injured.
Police said the victims had gathered Wednesday night in the church for a prayer meeting when the shooting occurred. Police are now searching for the suspect, described as a white male in his early 20s, who is clean-shaven and has a small build. Police said he was wearing a gray sweatshirt, blue jeans and Timberland boots. He is believe to be the only shooter.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” Charleston Police Chief Greg Mullen said at a late night news conference, without explaining the basis for his conclusion.
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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Mad_Larkin] 1
#21824652 - 06/18/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The basis for his conclusion was the shooter saying "I want to kill black people" right before he killed some black people.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824664 - 06/18/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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this thread (mainly patial) has me wanting to start banging my head on the desk
I'm sure if someone took the time to look everything up you would find a direct correlation to homicides per capita to strict gun control laws and higher black populations.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824720 - 06/18/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: Perhaps you should rethink your approach as I have little doubt about the "hey, I'm not racist, I have lots of black friends".
It's how you come across when you lecture people about race who simply don't care what race people are.
They're not a fucking race it is racist to divide people into racial groups. Racists care what race someone is.
I keep trying to find a metaphor to get you guys to understand how flawed your logic is. Racism is an ideology, like communism. Race exists as a term describing classifications with racist ideologies, that is the sense that race exists.
Marxism is also an ideology. There are several social classes that exist in Marxism. The people who subscribe to Marxism firmly believe that these labels are accurate descriptions for all people within society, even though from the outside these labels might seem arbitrary because you were raised or made to believe in a different system.
Many people in America (and across the world) subscribe to the ideology of racism. One of the ways that people are divided along racial lines under one of the many American brands of racist ideas is that people are divided into black and white, with mutually exclusive characteristics other than skin color.
This has been fundamentally disproven by our modern understanding of genetics and human evolution. Black people are not less evolved or inferior, they are human beings who are descended from the same common ancestors who have been undergoing the same exact processes of genetic mutation and natural selection as white people.
Unless you can tell me where exactly the line is between black and white, like do you subscribe to the 1 drop rule or do they need to have >50% genetic code from people with a certain genetic marker associated with black skin, or what racist system of classification do you use to group people.
So if you want me to stop lecturing, at least tell me what racist metric you are using to determine race, that is all I'm asking. Otherwise condemn racism and racist acts and I will you.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21824741 - 06/18/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As I'm unconcerned with someones race, I have no metric. I typically use the term 'ethnicity" but as your a race obsessed guy, I figured I'd use your word.
Lecture away, you're a laugh riot.
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Well, seeing as the one with the concerns over race is you...
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824759 - 06/18/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Guy shoots up a church because he wants to kill black people. That's why we're talking about race.
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21824764 - 06/18/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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im kind of concerned that no one has addressed the glaring problem in all of this, which is that we need legislation passed in order to ban that kids haircut.
no wonder why he is such a prick, id hate the world too with that mop.
actually id get along just fine, even with that horrid dew, because, you know coping skills and all
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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
#21824767 - 06/18/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Guy shoots up a church because he wants to kill black people. That's why we're talking about race.
No, that's why you and I, among others, are talking about race. Others are using it to display a self-imagined sense of enlightenment.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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