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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21821972 - 06/18/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you are gonna kill nine people it is probably a good idea just to kill yourself right after to avoid life in prison.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21821976 - 06/18/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it's even happened why would I bother? You don't care what I have to say on the matter anyways.

If you do then answer this.. How is it racist for a white person to shoot up a black church but not racist for black person to shoot up a black church? Someone could be white and shoot up a black church and have no racist feelings at all. For example, as has happened plenty of times in the past, violent husband is separate from his wife and under protection by a group of people (co workers or congregation for example) and he decides to kill them all. Where is the racism in that?

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Yeah, so that is exactly what you are doing.  You google crime victims and perpetrators to see what their races are.

Seems a little obsessive.




It is one of the most neurotic and obsessive behaviors I have heard of anyone doing here on the shroomery.



How is it obsessive? Do you just have this picture of me sitting over here Googling up articles of shootings and looking up races and putting it in some spread sheet or something? The shit pops up on yahoo news, I read the article, I Google the names in most articles, murders or not. It's nice to have a face to the name regardless of what the article is about. :facepalm:


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21821984 - 06/18/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh absolutely a lone wolf. He probably got pissed that all his friends always talked shit and never did anything.

How is it not racist when a black person shoots up a black church? Get the fuck out of here.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821988 - 06/18/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Look, this whole" point" you're trying to make is completely moot if you can't find a story about a black gunman shooting up a historic white church without any political motives being ascribed to the attack.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21821991 - 06/18/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
Yeah, so that is exactly what you are doing.  You google crime victims and perpetrators to see what their races are.

Seems a little obsessive.




It is one of the most neurotic and obsessive behaviors I have heard of anyone doing here on the shroomery.



How is it obsessive? Do you just have this picture of me sitting over here Googling up articles of shootings and looking up races and putting it in some spread sheet or something? The shit pops up on yahoo news, I read the article, I Google the names in most articles, murders or not. It's nice to have a face to the name regardless of what the article is about. :facepalm:




It is just one of the most strange things I have read here in recent memory. Can't believe someone would bother to do that.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #21821998 - 06/18/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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"Mother Emanuel" A.M.E. Church History

The history of Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church reflects the development of religious institutions for African Americans in Charleston. Dating back to the fall of 1787 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Richard Allen founded the Free African Society, adhering to the Doctrines of Methodism established by John Wesley. In 1816, black members of Charleston's Methodist Episcopal church withdrew over disputed burial ground, and under the leadership of Morris Brown. The Rev. Morris Brown organized a church of persons of color and sought to have it affiliated with Allen's church. Three churches arose under the Free African Society and were named the "Bethel Circuit". One of the Circuit churches was located in the suburbs of Ansonborough, Hampstead, and Cow Alley, now known as Philadelphia Alley in the French Quarters of Charleston. Emanuel's congregation grew out of the Hampstead Church, located at Reid and Hanover Streets.

In 1822 the church was investigated for its involvement with a planned slave revolt. Denmark Vesey, one of the church's founders, organized a major slave uprising in Charleston. Vesey was raised in slavery in the Virgin Islands among newly imported Africans. He was the personal servant of slavetrader Captain Joseph Vesey, who settled in Charleston in 1783. Beginning in December 1821, Vesey began to organize a slave rebellion, but authorities were informed of the plot before it could take place. The plot created mass hysteria throughout the Carolinas and the South. Brown, suspected but never convicted of knowledge of the plot, went north to Philadelphia where he eventually became the second bishop of the AME denomination.

During the Vesey controversy, the AME church was burned. Worship services continued after the church was rebuilt until 1834 when all black churches were outlawed. The congregation continued the tradition of the African church by worshipping underground until 1865 when it was formally reorganized, and the name Emanuel was adopted, meaning "God with us". The wooden two-story church that was built on the present site in 1872 was destroyed by the devastating earthquake of August 31, 1886. The present edifice was completed in 1891 under the pastorate of the Rev. L. Ruffin Nichols. The magnificent brick structure with encircling marble panels was restored, redecorated and stuccoed during the years of 1949-51 under the leadership of the Rev. Frank R. Veal. The bodies of the Rev. Nichols and his wife were exhumed and entomed in the base of the steeple so that they may forever be with the Emanuel that they helped to nurture.




Still think it might not be racism?

Racism is alive and well in the US, it is undeniable.  This is just one example of why we still need to have discussions and educate people on race, so this doesn't continue to happen.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #21822003 - 06/18/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think Canada is way better on the racism thing then the states. Just saying.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods] * 3
    #21822009 - 06/18/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shroomslip has demonstrated the insidious nature of racism. When black people do anything, it's always about their race. And when white people do anything, it's never about their race. White is the default. White people are just people.. Black people are always black people,


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21822011 - 06/18/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Canada is way better on the racism thing then the states. Just saying.



Thanks Captain Obvious


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21822012 - 06/18/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Better at keeping it under wraps? Thousands of Indian girls have mysteriously vanished without a trace over the past few decades and without any investigation by the Canadian government. That is fishy as fuck. I think what you really are talking about is the fact that they don't have any black people.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21822016 - 06/18/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Canada does not have the same legacy of institutionalized racism (it does have one though with native populations and other examples of racism), but it also is less racially diverse.  America may have a bloody history, but I believe it also will play a big part in ending racism.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21822017 - 06/18/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that is true. And those mixed communities up north, where male indians just dissapear and are later found frozen and beaten to death. A few times it was proven without a doubt that the police was responsible, it is called rough riding or some shit like that.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21822028 - 06/18/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You mean aboriginal girls. Indian is so racist. Gawd


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21822031 - 06/18/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomslip has demonstrated the insidious nature of racism. When black people do anything, it's always about their race. And when white people do anything, it's never about their race. White is the default. White people are just people.. Black people are always black people,



:facepalm: For the record I'm not racist. I had a reply but erased it.. Beyond that I'm out. Say what you want, think what you want (including I'm a racist) doesn't matter what I say or what I post in defense of what I have to say. Might as well be debating religion here. I stated an observation it got dragged out farther than it should have.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21822038 - 06/18/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have been kidnapping all the aboriginals in Canada and storing them in my shed.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21822039 - 06/18/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"I'm not racist!!"

Your reasoning - that you have written down for us all to see - says otherwise. That you obsessively google people to find out what their races are says otherwise


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21822045 - 06/18/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You mean aboriginal girls. Indian is so racist. Gawd



Funny, because a lot of the natives I sit with will call themselves Indians. :tongue:


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21822047 - 06/18/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I have been kidnapping all the aboriginals in Canada and storing them in my shed.




Well, at least you didn't call them Indians.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: koods]
    #21822050 - 06/18/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You mean aboriginal girls. Indian is so racist. Gawd




Is aboriginal any betther, tho? To me that seems just as racis as indian, only from the other direction.
What do they call themselves?


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21822051 - 06/18/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah that is true. And those mixed communities up north, where male indians just dissapear and are later found frozen and beaten to death. A few times it was proven without a doubt that the police was responsible, it is called rough riding or some shit like that.




Used to live in a city that was noted for this, Saskatoon.

Rough Riders however is the name of the provincial football team. :lol:

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Starlight tours is a term used to describe a police practice whereby police officers pick up individuals – usually first nation citizens – in urban settings, drive them to remote rural areas, and drop them off, regardless of freezing temperatures. This practice has taken place in and around Saskatoon. The police allegedly do this because they are frustrated with the First Nations men who constantly are under the influence and instead of booking them they find it easier to just drop them off in a secluded area without shelter or any regard for how cold the temperature is. So far, there have been 76 reported cases of First Nations men being dropped off and two deaths because of the Starlight tours according to http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/aboriginals/starlighttours.html . Starlight tours are an example of police corruption because, the police are abusing their power by using disciplinary matters which is dropping off the native men in the cold to “discipline” them.




https://policedeviance.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/the-freezing-cold-air-of-saskatoon/


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