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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21827265 - 06/19/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"literally"


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827348 - 06/19/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No this has actually just been pointed out to me after I called lds a hypocrite, please indulge me how I am a hypocrite.

It's because you think I'm a racist, and I'm calling lds a racist, right?  That's what I said, and now that we've both said it to each-other there's nothing more to be said.

Unless it's something else.  If it is please tell me in plain language how I am a hypocrite.




When white people try to harmlessly segregate themselves based on culture and race, you called them racist, when minorities do the same thing you call it noble and justified.

When a white person says that different races exist you called them racists, when minorities take pride in their culture and race you somehow systematize with their position, that's called being a hypocrite.


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: qman]
    #21827353 - 06/19/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No this has actually just been pointed out to me after I called lds a hypocrite, please indulge me how I am a hypocrite.

It's because you think I'm a racist, and I'm calling lds a racist, right?  That's what I said, and now that we've both said it to each-other there's nothing more to be said.

Unless it's something else.  If it is please tell me in plain language how I am a hypocrite.




When white people try to harmlessly segregate themselves based on culture and race, you called them racist, when minorities do the same thing you call it noble and justified.

When a white person says that different races exist you called them racists, when minorities take pride in their culture and race you somehow systematize with their position, that's called being a hypocrite.




hmm.. a man must be proud of who he is, not how he was born.
Defining your identity with your race seems silly to me, but what do I know? I'm 100% blue eyed devil :lol:


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21827380 - 06/19/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No this has actually just been pointed out to me after I called lds a hypocrite, please indulge me how I am a hypocrite.

It's because you think I'm a racist, and I'm calling lds a racist, right?  That's what I said, and now that we've both said it to each-other there's nothing more to be said.

Unless it's something else.  If it is please tell me in plain language how I am a hypocrite.




When white people try to harmlessly segregate themselves based on culture and race, you called them racist, when minorities do the same thing you call it noble and justified.

When a white person says that different races exist you called them racists, when minorities take pride in their culture and race you somehow systematize with their position, that's called being a hypocrite.




hmm.. a man must be proud of who he is, not how he was born.
Defining your identity with your race seems silly to me, but what do I know? I'm 100% blue eyed devil :lol:




It's a part of our identity, failure to recognize this part of the human condition is somewhat naive.


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #21827390 - 06/19/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You guys don't understand the difference between a group like the KKK, which is a white supremacists group, of which there are many more in SC and the larger US, and a group like the NAACP who on their website says in plain language

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OUR MISSION

The mission of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate race-based discrimination.




http://www.naacp.org/pages/our-mission

They are not an organization that excludes based on race, which explains how Ms. Donezal got in despite her whiteness, as well as because of her contributions to the cause.

Yes there can be a difference sometimes between white supremacy groups and a "black church". This mentality where in order for people to be equal, if black people are enabled whatsoever white people must be equally or more enabled for it to be fair, or whatever it is you profess,  it is racist and I think anyone with half a brain should see that.


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827537 - 06/19/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They obviously do discriminate, Dolezal got her job by pretending to be black and making up a history of victimization hy racists. That's why everybody's got their panties in a knot in the first place.


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21827583 - 06/19/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Now there's reports of him being a drug addict, and supposedly the suboxone he was taking has a record of making individuals violent. With racism and gun control being the main focus of the main stream media I don't see them running off script to report on this, and especially not to demonize the pharmaceutical industry. Medication has been left out of the equation of mass shootings in the past, and I think addressing this would explain more as to what sparks these incidents.   

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/

http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: qman]
    #21827586 - 06/19/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It's a part of our identity, failure to recognize this part of the human condition is somewhat naive.




Pff, you Americans.

@ Astral plane: Yeah the mainstream news always leaves that kind of thing out of their reporting, it is highly suspicious.


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21827645 - 06/19/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Now there's reports of him being a drug addict, and supposedly the suboxone he was taking has a record of making individuals violent. With racism and gun control being the main focus of the main stream media I don't see them running off script to report on this, and especially not to demonize the pharmaceutical industry. Medication has been left out of the equation of mass shootings in the past, and I think addressing this would explain more as to what sparks these incidents.   

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/

http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/




:justno: they are basing that on forum posts where people who took suboxone became violent.  It's bound to happen.  It is leagues less likely to cause violence than alcohol, I'm certain of that.

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They obviously do discriminate, Dolezal got her job by pretending to be black and making up a history of victimization hy racists. That's why everybody's got their panties in a knot in the first place.




I think you're buying into the rhetoric surrounding this case.  I think I read her racial background was discussed privately before giving her the position, and they decided it wasn't an issue.  I'd encourage you to read this press release:

http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/naacp-statement-on-the-resignation-of-rachel-dolezal1


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: moonrockmushy] * 5
    #21827659 - 06/19/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21827731 - 06/19/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This killer is a real jerk


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Re: ?Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21828052 - 06/19/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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White dude who typically went on rants about how black people are taking over America; wore paraphernalia celebrating colonialism and apartheid in Africa; was reported by witnesses and neighbours to have stated his desires to kill black people; targeted a historical black church that was first built in response to discrimination and has been previously attacked and destroyed by white supremacists through the years --> His motivation must have been that they were Christian, we have so many issues with Christians being oppressed for their beliefs

Don't worry though, lone-wolf shooter with no affiliations who is not indicative of others, surely no one would celebrate the killings of a madman or terrorist and hope to see their cause benefit from it.
Oops


There was a report that, at one point, the same group also posted the comment to Sen. Clementa Pinckney's facebook page directly in the format:
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In the hours after Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney’s death, a white supremacist group posted on his Facebook page, “Maybe one of my supporters in South Carolina can run for your seat. You don’t need it anymore.”



http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2015/06/when-the-home-grown-terrorists-are-white/

But not sure if it was posted on the Senator's page and then deleted by Facebook, or if it was only ever posted on the group's page itself and the blogger just wants to sensationalize the discovery further.

Do not think the shooter was pushed into the shootings by such groups, nor that it was necessarily an organized attack (being that there was only one shooter rather than multiple it seems less likely to be coordinated from within a group) but it is very discouraging to see any individuals who are supportive of this shooting, just as it was very discouraging to see any individuals supportive of the actions of the Charlie Hebdo shooters.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21828901 - 06/19/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Canada is way better on the racism thing then the states. Just saying.




We are way better at hiding it. Our racial ghettos require a float plane to see. In america you just need to get off wrong freeway exit


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21828951 - 06/19/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Canada is way better on the racism thing then the states. Just saying.




We are way better at hiding it. Our racial ghettos require a float plane to see. In america you just need to get off wrong freeway exit




Canada is the perfect place for a hardcore racist though. He can walk on the streets and he could hate like half the people he sees. There is an abundance of people to hate up here if you're a racist. You could be hating all day, every day. He could even make a schedule, monday is turban hatred day. Tuesday it burka hating day. Wednesday its native hating day, etc


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Patlal]
    #21828989 - 06/19/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is so ridiculous.

A white kid shoots up a black church.  So now black people use this as an excuse to further push a race war by saying their people are under attack and want to play victim as a whole.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21829043 - 06/19/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

CNN is saying that he has apparently confessed to the crime and claimed that his motivation was to try and start a race war.

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Roof admits he did it, sources say

Roof admits he shot and killed the people he'd sat with for Bible study at the historically black church, two law enforcement officials said.

But why? To start a race war.

That's what Roof told investigators, according to one of the officials.

CNN's Evan Perez and Wesley Bruer were the first to report Roof's confession. Others earlier gave a glimpse into the twisted motivation -- including at the time and site of the shooting.

There, a survivor told Sylvia Johnson that Roof answered one man's pleas to stop by saying, "No, you've raped our women, and you are taking over the country ... I have to do what I have to do."

A friend recalled a drunken Roof ranting one night about his unspecified six-month plan "to do something crazy" in order "to start a race war." And the Berkeley County, South Carolina, government tweeted a picture of him in a jacket with flags from apartheid-era South Africa and nearby Rhodesia, a former British colony that was ruled by a white minority until it became independent in 1980.

By telling authorities his aim, Roof admitted he attacked unarmed civilians for political purposes in an act of terror.




http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/index.html?sr=cnnitw

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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Herbologist]
    #21829514 - 06/19/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sheekle said:

nobody cares about race.





Technically we're all half centaur


anyway, this wasnt a shooting, it was 9 black people stealing some white dude's bullets



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This is so ridiculous.

A white kid shoots up a black church.  So now black people use this as an excuse to further push a race war by saying their people are under attack and want to play victim as a whole.


:huxleyfacepalm:




i think we can clearly say that the agressors in this instance are not the recipients of the inital attack.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #21829816 - 06/19/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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This is so ridiculous.

A white kid shoots up a black church.  So now black people use this as an excuse to further push a race war by saying their people are under attack and want to play victim as a whole.


:huxleyfacepalm:




Our people are under attack.  Innocent people in churches even.  This was a domestic terrorist attack and Americans citizens are the only victims to my knowledge.

It's not ridiculous it's an inhumane tragedy.  What is ridiculous is that nobody is even really surprised, because racism is considered normal in America by alot of people apparently.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21830002 - 06/19/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Canada is way better on the racism thing then the states. Just saying.




We are way better at hiding it. Our racial ghettos require a float plane to see. In america you just need to get off wrong freeway exit



Races living together in one spot isn't necessarily a sign of racial disharmony, but a sign of human nature. Blacks best relate to other blacks and natives relate best to other natives.

Just like how the low class tends to live with low class, middle class with other middle class, upper class with other upper class.


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Re: 9 dead in shooting at historic Charleston African American church [Re: D.M.T]
    #21830204 - 06/19/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And non-racists tend to prefer the company of other non-racists.


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