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Invisiblesilversoul7
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What is intelligence?
    #2103111 - 11/13/03 09:21 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

And your thoughts are?


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2103253 - 11/13/03 09:59 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

to me intelligence is how well your mind grasp ideas, concepts, priniciples, etc. you know, it describes how well you understand.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2103378 - 11/13/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

We don't really know jack crap about intelligence.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2103453 - 11/13/03 10:49 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Who are 'we?'


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2103525 - 11/13/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

What is intelligence?

See my 5000 posts for examples...  :tongue2: 


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: Swami]
    #2103591 - 11/13/03 11:16 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

^^^That reminds me of when Socrates asked a high priest what holiness was, and the priest kept on just giving examples rather than a definition.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2103615 - 11/13/03 11:22 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Personally I think that intelligence is a measurement of the capacity of your hardware. Short and long term storage, speed, etc.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: jiva]
    #2103815 - 11/14/03 12:02 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

who is more intelligent?

The man who spends his entire life obsessing over a math equation, finally solving it shortly before his death?

or the man who spends his days relaxing on the beach, letting his mind leisurely roam in space?


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2103835 - 11/14/03 12:06 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I believe that intelligence is simply knowledge.

There are many types of intelligence.  There's the obvious type of those who are "brainy" :laugh:.

I also believe that athletic ability, artistic ability, musical ability, are all types of intelligence.

 


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2103864 - 11/14/03 12:12 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I believe intelligence is essentially just the ability to organize ideas well(to "put things together" if you will), combined with a certain thoughtfulness. This is true of all types of intelligence, whether you're talking book-smarts, street-smarts, or whatever.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2103868 - 11/14/03 12:13 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
who is more intelligent?

The man who spends his entire life obsessing over a math equation, finally solving it shortly before his death?

or the man who spends his days relaxing on the beach, letting his mind leisurely roam in space?



I believe what you are referring to is WISDOM, not intelligence. Don't confuse the two.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2103952 - 11/14/03 12:27 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I would say that intelligence is the ability to grasp new concepts and add them to an existing framework, as well as the speed at which this occurs.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: trendal]
    #2103982 - 11/14/03 12:37 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

The man who spends his entire life obsessing over a math equation, finally solving it shortly before his death?

or the man who spends his days relaxing on the beach, letting his mind leisurely roam in space?

-the math whiz is more intelligent. Obviously. Because now his solved equation, a product of his hard work and intellect can go on to assist in the production of a peice of optometry equipment that makes it possible for people to see again. While the dork on the beach bums a smoke from some British tourists.


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2104019 - 11/14/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Well, it cant be defined so narrowly. you could say that intellegence could be general knowledge, but then you'd have to say that the specialist is'nt very intelligent. Even if he has a deep intuition for his area of expertise that's seemingly above everyone else.

You couldnt necessarily say intelligence is specializing either, because many autistics are EXTREMELY focused and speciallized in areas like math ect, but have trouble dealing with very simple changes that interrupt their daily routines.

So, maybe we can choose a middle man... Somebody who can managed both: A specialty and general knowledge. SO his 'intelligence' could be tallied according to his ability to encompass everything and his specialty, right?

This may seem adequate, but it is deceptively simple. We are useing general concepts in a broad and loose fashion.
The real problem comes in when you try to measure it and/or define the smallest 'parts' of it. This is where you get into a swirling torent of pain, dealling with concepts like human nature, the enviroment, Humans opportunity for action IN this enviroment ect. How to become 'intelligent'; how to find truth and how to measure it in my fellow human beings if possible.

Once you start dealling with this and human nature, it would'nt be satisfying to deal with cognitive intelliegence alone. Because cognition is limited in it's opportunities for action. ALot of intellegence comes from the emotions, intuition, one's emotional flexibility. And skill that knows how to change old personality structures in equal or better ways so as to have the ability to adapt to anything the world can throw at you. TO truely apply yourself, so you can excell at whatever you put your mind to.

This all essentially begs the question what kind of life should i live? What kind of thoughts should i have? what should i devote my energy to? what kind of training should i undergo to get these cognitive and personality traits?


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: David_Scape]
    #2104293 - 11/14/03 02:08 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

For me ...

Intelligence is the ability to think, adapt, create, problem solve ... to be able to imagine and dream.

Knowledge is merely a collection or library of information.



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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: guitarmon]
    #2104418 - 11/14/03 02:41 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

yeah your right silver, wisdom is a better word for it, which basically knocks my question out of this threads topic

i dont have any steadfast opinions on my own question, just wanted to add something to think about


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2104948 - 11/14/03 05:39 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

probably neither is more intelligent.  it all depends on the reason behind it.  like you know there are intelligent people, but they make dumb choices.  kinda the difference between being intelligent and being smart.  being smart would be what you do with it. mmmmmm...yeah :smile:


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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2105064 - 11/14/03 06:45 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Intelligence is asking what Intelligence is :nut:
Wisdom, however, is knowing what Intelligence is :nut:
Knowledge, on the other hand, is remembering what intelligence is :nut:

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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2105145 - 11/14/03 08:01 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

Mixomatosis said:
-the math whiz is more intelligent. Obviously. Because now his solved equation, a product of his hard work and intellect can go on to assist in the production of a peice of optometry equipment that makes it possible for people to see again. While the dork on the beach bums a smoke from some British tourists.




He isn't going to shit with that math equation as he dies right after solving it.

And one can do whatever the hell they want with their intelligence. One does work to allow others to see and the other hangs out on a beach. This alone does NOTHING to show which one is more intelligent than the other.
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Re: What is intelligence? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2105236 - 11/14/03 09:14 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

I Have never liked the word Intelligence, I like to think of intelligence as being imagination.


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