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Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK-**UPDATED 22nd October 2010** * 8
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Hey all (and especially fellow budding UK mycologists!)

I've been using this awesome site for a month now,since first ordering a complete mycobag kit,studying up to start my own proper grows.As a source of information,this site is invaluable (and pretty damned vibrant entertainment at times too! :vaped:

But one thing-as all the sponsors seem to be American based,and transatlantic shipping is a tad unfeasable, I spent many an hour pondering online trying to find decent supplies,so,to hopefully spare a few of you a few frustrating hours browsing,here's my list of supplies that I bought.

(Note:I'm by no means claiming these are the best or the cheapest available-just that I've had the most success with them,they meet my (moderately stringent) quality standards and they don't break the bank)

Firstly,the key item, the pressure cooker. An essential piece of kit-while boiling and steam sterilisation may suffice,nothing beats a good PCing for sterility.This 7L model from Argos is a fair size and quite cheap at £30.

Next,your jars. I spent a long time trying to find the ideal jar,then stumbled across these Ikea offerings quite by accident.Varying sizes and volumes,most are straight sided,entirely glass except for a transparent plastic circle on top-perfect,if you ask me.

For substrate,my preferred choice is organic rye grain. Cheap,cheerful and the myc seems to love it.I particularly like the rye from this site for it's cleanliness-I've twice had unsterilized rye jars colonise perfectly from this source (not that I'd ever recommend trying unless you want to almost certainly waste spores,but it just goes to show...)

I found needles and syringes a bit of a headache-I had no idea where to go and ask for needles without looking like a smack addict,but in the end found this site selling bulk sterile packed syringes with needles.

The local Homebase proved great for casing and growing supplies packing WBS,straw and all manner of goodies!However,I just availed myself of the vermiculite and perlite on offer.

Lastly,good old eBay proved reliable as ever for incredibly cheap coco coir and gypsum supplies-those I trust you guys can find for yourself!

Hopefully,this can help along some of my island-bound brother mycologists and spread the :mushroom2:

if anyone has any questions,feel free to PM me-about time I started giving back!

Good vibes,all!

UPDATE SUPPLY LIST-22nd October 2010

~And many thanks to the following Shroomerites of Awesomeness for shouldering this thread and providing useful links in my absence!~

Andymc
Badman
BaseIcks
egodeathflux
FractalXplora
Solarity
Tetriana
Zodd
...and probably several others I've forgotten! Good peeps, all. :hatsoff:


Spores
FSRE
Sporeworks



Pressure cookers
Argos 7L 12psi
Prestige Argos 6L
Large pressure cookers
Ebay All American Pressure Canners
Aptly named "Big Boy" PCs

Substrate
Brown Rice Flour
BRF 2
Bulk BRF
Organic Rye Grain
Organic Rye 25kg
Manure
Coir
Straw

Jars
Ikea
Barnitts
Mason jars
More jars
Still more jars
Plastic BRF jars
plastic containers
Kitchen Craft Jars
Mason Bell Jars

Other essentials
Syringes
More syringes
Still more syringes
Yet more syringiness!

Stockli Dehydrator
Resusable drierite
Humydry Moisture Absorber
Kilrock desiccant
Food dehydrator

Vermiculite
Perlite
Vacutainers
More Vacutainers
Trays
Light dry malt
malt & dextrose
Accurate hygrometers
Culture vials
Self sealing lids
Spawn bags, Agar, petri dishes, etc
plastic autoclave containers
Parafilm wrap
Sterile swabs
Grinder

Edited by Ego Questio (10/22/10 11:20 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 2
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Almost forgot the most important bloody part!
For spores,I can't recommend the Free Spore Ring Europe enough-these guys are just incredible,and deserve all the support we can give them.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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ive found the perfect jars, tescos finest apricot preserve, £1.39.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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Yup, that's pretty much where I got all my stuff :smile:

For jars, the best I've found are at Barnitts. Grab the 230g jars for PF Tek.

If you're in the market for a dehydrator, I recently picked up a Stockli. Swiss-made, works very well :smile:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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Also, whenever I see one of these UK threads, it gets me thinking about a shroom community site focused on UK growers.

General growing info obviously isn't country-specific, but info on supplies, where to pick wild shrooms, etc. certainly is. A UK site could also help local growers meet up, share experiences, exchange prints, etc. As far as I'm aware, no such site currently exists.

Not sure how much demand there would be for such a thing. Any thoughts? If people are into it, I could look into setting something up.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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To be honest,I'm more than happy with the Shroomery.
Here, you have the input and experience of literally a planetwide network of shroomers.
Once you start segmenting,people will drift into their local sections,and the knowledge base is fragmented.
As long as the vast majority of non UKers don't mind an occasional thread like this,I'm more than happy to read (with sickening jealousy!) of other's easier grow stories.

My 2c.


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Over one's mind and over one's body the individual is sovereign.
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
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My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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Yea, I like how international this community is.  I wish there wasn't such a language barrier to the east, otherwise I think this would be a much more international community.  Even still though, we do get a number of non english speakers doing their best to communicate, which is why I think this site is so amazing, it's really the most global community for mushroom cultivation that exists.  It would be nice to have regional forums perhaps, within this forum, so as to keep the info all in one place, but still provide area specific information.  That is something that I think those in charge should consider, at least for the hunting forums.

Nice information, I'm sure those that need it will find it quite useful.  Thanks!

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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The Shroomery is certainly a fantastic resource. And as I noted, the knowledge of how to grow doesn't really have anything to do with where you live. But it's obviously a US-centric site, which is an issue when it comes to things like obtaining supplies.

There have been several of these UK grower threads, but they seem to get lost, nothing really gets consolidated. Everything you posted has been covered elsewhere. Did you search for UK threads? Were you able to find them?

I personally also really like the idea of a local site which helps local growers get together. I would love to meet up with people and share experiences. Yes, I could post a meetup thread here, but a dedicated UK site might be more effective. (There are obviously other places to post such info, such as a Facebook group, etc. Doesn't necessarily need its own site.)

I also have issues with the way the information on this site is organised, which is pretty shittily tbh. Yes, there are centralised resources, but a lot of the good info is in the forums, which can be a bitch to navigate. Locating the good info is a bit too serendipitous imo :smile:

I dunno, I have an interest in a site which offers something the Shroomery doesn't, whether it's specialised local info, a more organised resource, whatever. The Shroomery's great, but it's not perfect, Plenty of room for other shroomy stuff :smile:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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The idea of mushroom growers getting together in person is not the best idea, in my opinion.  That has "FBI INFILTRATRION" written all over it.  Or whatever the uk equivalent of the fbi is.  I agree with your main points though, could be better organized, and could certainly be less u.s. centric.  I wouldn't blame you for pursuing the creation of a new site. I'd be very interested to see it occur.  :smile:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: libertaire] * 1
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Heh, you make a good point about the meetups. Would need to come up with some creative ways to screen out the operatives :tongue:

Glad you agree with the other points. A better organised site with more of a focus on local growers… Will give it some thought and see if I can be bothered to try anything :smile:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: libertaire] * 1
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libertaire said:
Or whatever the uk equivalent of the fbi is.


The fuzz? :chiefwiggum: :lol:
Hardly an equivalent.

Though,as cool as it would be,an advertised mass gathering of shroomers may not be well advised. :frown:

@Darjeeling
I did search the forums and had moderate success over the weeks...but I'm an information junkie and it's what I do.I never found any single list like this to be used as a one stop reference if you didn't fancy the research time,hence...

Area specific forums on the Shroomery could be fun,especially on the hunting section,as Libertaire suggested.


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John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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I'll stick this thread for a week or so until our friends in the UK have a chance to bookmark it.

Don't forget our EU vendors too, such as MRCA in Austria. 

As for this site being US centered, that's just the nature of the beast.  For example, on my own website, I've had hits from 146 countries in the last 30 days, but 94% of total hits have have come from the U.S.  It's not a grand conspiracy or anything, just the fact that there's more people online in the U.S. than in other countries, but that's changing.  Hopefully, we can attract more EU vendors to enter the business (this is a wide-open opportunity for aspiring myco-entrepreneurs in Europe) and join our site.
RR


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
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Azarius is also Europe based.

I have used both and can recommend them for speedy delivery and good customer service.

A good way to get jars for PF cakes if you like jam are Bonne Mamman brand jars. I have seen them in the U.K. often enough when I go to visit the family and they work great.

I still remember the first time I grew, going to the supermarket and buying 20 pots of jam. The woman at the checkout looked at me as if I was crazy.



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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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Good post!! Ive bought rye from that place but i werent as brave as you.

Any UK or Euro members who want a Pan. cambodginiensis fresh off te press let me know. Ive sent over 20 to USA and Canada time to give closer to home, plus got book of 12 stamps.#

Good shout about MRCA, Top shop!

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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I am in Ireland and get spores from sporeworks with no trouble at all. Very quick delivery and certainly feasible.

I would not get the tower PC in argos. I have used towers in the past and they are not great, that one only goes to 12psi too. I did some searching before I got mine, the newer "smart" prestige range are meant to be crap. I have this prestige and would highly recommend it, seals nicely and I have no trouble at all.
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8610351/Trail/searchtext%3EPRESTIGE.htm

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: blackout] * 1
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Hmm. Blackout,you could be right about the PC.I just got the largest capacity one I could find for a reasonable price,but it's hardly ideal,especially if it only does 12psi...Luckily,I've never had a contam issue due to poor PCing-I can take full clumsy credit for the infections into my jars! :tongue:
But for £30,you can't go wrong.Especially as once you take a small step up the PC quality scale,you're instantly past the hundred pound mark... :mad:

edit:I just noticed that one you linked to is only 6L,but "high dome"-how'd you find it for getting jars in there?Even with the size on mine,it's a bit of a squeeze trying to get larger jars in...


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Over one's mind and over one's body the individual is sovereign.
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

Edited by Ego Questio (11/30/09 02:59 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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Good info man. I been searching for jars for ages


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Nibin] * 1
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Nibin said:
Azarius is also Europe based.

I have used both and can recommend them for speedy delivery and good customer service.

A good way to get jars for PF cakes if you like jam are Bonne Mamman brand jars. I have seen them in the U.K. often enough when I go to visit the family and they work great.

I still remember the first time I grew, going to the supermarket and buying 20 pots of jam. The woman at the checkout looked at me as if I was crazy.




The best jars with the funkiest lids! its tough enough eating all the jam though had to chuck some

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: topcat] * 1
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They're on the large size for PF Tek. You're better off with the Barnitts ones I linked above.

Bonne Maman jam is good though :tongue:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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they are 1/2 pint though, 250ml is not 1/2 a pint.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: theGREBBLE] * 1
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Do you mean the Barnitts jars are a bit small?

The problem with the BM jars is that they're too large. IME, colonisation times are pretty awful vs the smaller Barnitts ones.

For a UK grower, I would say the Barnitts jars are perfect for PF Tek.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Darjeeling] * 1
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no sorry mate, i meant the BM jars are exactly 1/2 pint (284ml) i have measured them.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: theGREBBLE] * 1
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Ego Questio said:
I just noticed that one you linked to is only 6L,but "high dome"-how'd you find it for getting jars in there?Even with the size on mine,it's a bit of a squeeze trying to get larger jars in...


that is the pc i use.the "high dome" feature enables you to fit taller jars.

i use 200g instant coffee granule jars,such as these.>



if you have a local NETTO'S the, cafe amora,medium roast have pc'able plastic lids.
the maxwell house 'classic roast' with brown lids, also work.

four of these fit in the "high dome',each hold 380g,so just over 1.5k of cooked grain per pc run.

edit> out of interest.what weight (of grain) can you fit in the 7L


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Edited by deucedbi9 (12/02/09 05:52 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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I too have used similar sources to you but I had my perlite and verm delivered as needed garden supplies so got like 50litres of both!

For BRF and grain got from some health store olnine may be same as yours and have to say i soaked the grain but had no scum or dust or anything many others say they get after soaking!!??

As for Jars i use micro-science same people that make mycofarm bags and its over priced on certain items but you can get very tough plastic jars and also cheaper ones (£1 each) that have built in filters!

I too got the PC from Argos and seems fine at the moment, doesnt hold much but for small use its fine.

For spores i just use different spore syringe places from the UK, have used freespores but not guaranteed from contams as its what other people have done in their homes. They are good none the less.

For shrooms growing in wild I have no clue but think only type in UK is the liberty cap and pretty sure these are very hard to grow inside or at home.

Good thread have always wanted one like this.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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Micro-science has some good products but IMO is expensive.

Any one know where i can get more glass culture vials for slants, ebay does not have them anymore. Any ideas would be sweet.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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10ml ink refill syringes on eBay UK.
Search for "syringe long needle".
£4.50 for 6 with free P&P

The blunt needles are about 4" long with a large bore.

I like these because I can suck up lumpy mycelium from the very bottom of an LC jar and inoculate deep into a large PF.

I've recycled and pressure cooked some of these several times with no damage.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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deucedbi9 said:
edit> out of interest.what weight (of grain) can you fit in the 7L


I haven't actually measured the total capacty,but I think you've got me beat.My last job was two jars with 500g dry grain each,and that was a bit of a squeeze.Granted they were oversized jars,but I think space wise you've definately got the advantage.
Damn! :tongue2:


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John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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I would also like to know a good place to get hardwood chips so i can grow some shittake, enoki and such.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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badman said:
I would also like to know a good place to get hardwood chips so i can grow some shittake, enoki and such.


Some pet shops sell perfectly sized, clean beech chip bedding for reptiles. This stuff works nicely with Ps.Cyans. but so does the nastiest dirty mixed wood chips from my local tree surgeon for 1/1000th the price.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: theGREBBLE] * 1
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I'm looking for a dehydrator but can't find one for less than £80, i've tried ebay & amazon, i've seen that you can pick them up in the U.S for as little as $30, no such luck in the U.K tho, any ideas anyone?


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Edited by djshoo (12/07/09 11:17 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: djshoo] * 1
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Sorry, do you mean a dehydrator? LOL

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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Thats the one, was a heavy weekend mate :crazy2:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: djshoo] * 1
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Can't understand why dehydrators are so expensive.
From what I've seen it's just a warm air flow through some trays. A bit like a gentle hair dryer.
I find just propping up a little cardboard box behind my PC with the warm air from the PSU directed through it works perfectly.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax] * 1
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I just put em on my radiators full blast over night, sometimes a bit longer and then in the dry box with calcium chloride.

EDIT: :getstoned:

Edited by badman (12/16/09 03:18 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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I had 3lbs 2oz of my first flush, I wasn't prepared for drying that many & i can't really leave any around the house drying because theres always someone about the place. I've got a large wooden box i can use, i'm gonna strap a box fan, one thats gives of heat, to the lid. That should work just as well as a dehydrator shouldn't it? I'll keep the lid open slightly. Then finish of with calcium chloride.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: djshoo] * 1
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Oh, thats a fuck loada munchrooms way too many for a radiator.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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b and q for a massive bag of natural hard wood chips, works fine, mycelluim eats it well :wink: cost ya about a fiver too!

nice thread have to stop growing here in winter in the uK cant get the temps up, too expensive, dormant till summer here !!


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: FractalXplora] * 1
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FractalXplora said:
have to stop growing here in winter in the uK cant get the temps up, too expensive, dormant till summer here !!


You're telling me...! I've been trying to get about 8 different jars to colonise, but it's like :banghead: every time. I think the myc's huddling together for warmth. :tongue2:

My average temperature in the house is 15'C (60'F for all the yanks :grin:), which is enough to inhibit my growth, let alone the myc! So unless I fork out again for an incubator setup, like all us Brits, I'm basically :screwed:!

Goddamn it! Earth were warmer back in my day! Beer were a penny a pint, you got an eigth of bud for the price of a packet of monster munch, kids had more respect, mumble, grumble... :oldman:


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Over one's mind and over one's body the individual is sovereign.
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: FractalXplora] * 1
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FractalXplora said:
b and q for a massive bag of natural hard wood chips, works fine, mycelluim eats it well :wink: cost ya about a fiver too!

nice thread have to stop growing here in winter in the uK cant get the temps up, too expensive, dormant till summer here !!


The tree surgeon mentioned earlier sold me 3 cubic meters (3000 litres) for £30. I had to borrow a tipper truck from work to get it home!
I thought the B&Q chips were a bit too chunky averaging 25x25x10mm. They were 50 litre bags but I suppose my branch might have sold a different brand to yours.

You might want to make an incubator for the spawn if your house is too cold. All you need is a big polystyrene box like the ones supermarkets throw away and a little reptile heater mat on one of the walls. You should include a thermostat to prevent overheating. Boot sales and junk shops are great for this kind of thing on a limited budget! Once it's warmed up it'll only draw 5-10 watts.
Once your spawn jars or bags are ready, just mix it in your outdoor bed no matter what the weather and keep repeating.
I'm sure the more spawn you put in now, the quicker the colonization will be come springtime and the bigger the crop beginning winter next year.

I can't wait till my first outdoor flush! 11 months and counting!


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax] * 1
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This is a realy good hygrometer!!!!







search kimbos reptiles i think!!  or just google Haar Synth!


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FractalXplora said:
b and q for a massive bag of natural hard wood chips, works fine, mycelluim eats it well :wink: cost ya about a fiver too!

nice thread have to stop growing here in winter in the uK cant get the temps up, too expensive, dormant till summer here !!


Thank you very much!!!

Fuck, cold... just go back from Liverpool and it was freeezing up there. 2-1 to the Arsenal, 2-1 to the Arsenal.

WOOD CHIPS ON THE CHEAP

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Word.
Evening chaps, I hope you're all good. I'm all comfortably numb with mates, chops and squidgy black on the go.  :jointsmile:
Bit chilly here in Reading tho. I've got my first ever grow of 8 BRF PF cakes happily olonising away. Room temp 20-22, cakes huddled around radiator, fairly steady 25.

Keepers Creepers injected in 3 batches,

!st batch colonised: 70-90%
2nd batch colonised: 3-15%
3rd batch colonised: 85-95%

2nd batch were not whithin a foot of the radiator for a week.
3rd batch of cakes were made with a slightly wetter mix.

I'm planning of fruiting the first two fully colonised cakes the spawning the rest to bulk and perhaps building a little incubator.

WBS costs £5.99 for 5kgs in Countrywide btw  :biggrin:

Anyway, cheers all for such a wicked site and priceless source of input.
More input, More input!

On a side note, anyone remember the pre-law-change glory-days of Organic Shamanic in Brighton? Loved that place, the way they did loyalty cards. Buy 10 lots of 40g fresh mushies and get 40g of your choice free! Jackpot!! :stinkyshroom:

Anyway, laters peeps, I've got work to do....


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Hey buddy! :smile: Welcome to the family. :hatsoff:

Dude, the old squidgy! Haven't seen that around in many a year! How's the smoke..?

Vincent Van Gopher said:
cakes huddled around radiator, fairly steady 25.



:ilold:
You and me both, my man! My bloody boiler's packed in as of yesterday, so I'm typing this huddled in bed with a space heater on and all my jars lined up in front-goddamn this British December! Though I'm far more frozen than ye-in this skanky old house, my ambient is 15'C!  :uhoh:

Edit: Where the fuck are my manners-good luck on the first grow, my good sir! :thumbup: You planning on chucking those cakes in a shotgun..? How's about some pictures to document the occasion? :cool:


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Edited by Ego Questio (12/15/09 06:54 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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vacutainers

Nice trays (cheap)

Needles 2inch

Light Dry Malt

Organic Rye 25KG

Cheap Space Heater

Mason Jars

Large Pressure Cookers!

Acurate Hygrometer £14!!!!

More Mason Jars

Tyvek Sleeves

More Jars

Still More Jars

Syringes

Drierite For Drying Mushrooms! Can Be Re-used


Hope this helps someone!    :geicogecko:

Edited by emptyvessal (12/16/09 05:57 PM)

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Alright Buddy, yeah the squidgy's smoking very nicely indeed. Tastes good, smells pukka, such a lush way to be cained too! :jointsmile:
No school like the old school. Nice antidote to all the overpriced 'highgrade' skunk and sprayed bullshit going round.
Everyone even gets to play with their drugs and mold it into comedy items, palm-sized squidgy black handgun being the best so far!


...but yeah, the cakes'll be going into a shotgun, what sort've times have I got til harvesting from then? No rush, a few years bonsai experience have done wonders for my patience! :smile:

Oh drat! Just remembered I'm away visiting the 'rents 24th-28th. Hypothetically, if I've got cakes fruiting in a shotgun, will they fail if I'm not about to fan them? Should I;
get a fan set up on a timer?
build a FC that looks after itself?
Get a mate to babysit while I'm away?
Spawn to bulk?
hmmmmmm......advice please.

Cheers chaps, hope you all have a good day, I'm going out for a stroll round the woods in the snow!!!!:biggrin:

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"Don't Eat The Yellow Snow!"

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Vincent Van Gopher] * 1
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When you go away to your rents just put a fan in the room, not pointed directly at the FC and it should be ok. If theres some air flow in the room then they should survive. If your mate knows what to do then thats a good idea and so is spawning to bulk. Its your call.


emptyvessal nice linkage, have you bought that rye grain before?? cos its cheaper that WBS i wanna know the quality, i sent that company an email btw.

EDIT: I have also found on ebay a bulk lot for culture vials for master slants or small LCs, if you are interested PM me and we could pool up to get tham as i dont need 72. The are fully autoclavable if you want them Ill even make you some LCs or masters and send them ready to use.

Edited by badman (06/11/10 08:54 PM)

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:whoah:

I got totally owned in my own thread! :lol:
Nice job,Emptyvessal. :hatsoff: I'm gonna use some of those myself. :thumbup:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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emptyvessal is like a detective, trust.
:lolsy:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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I fucking represent !  :geicogecko:

If anyone knows where to get a 6500K bulb without me having to order online let me know e.g like a Argos or something that every town has!

Also Silica Gel  same as above.









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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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emptyvessal nice linkage, have you bought that rye grain before?? cos its cheaper that WBS i wanna know the quality, i sent that company an email btw.

EDIT: I have also found on ebay a bulk lot for culture vials for master slants or small LCs, if you are interested PM me and we could pool up to get tham as i dont need 72. The are fully autoclavable if you want them Ill even make you some LCs or masters and send them ready to use.




I havnt but it all sounds like it is good stuff! Not sure it is easy to get organicly certified so they must be doing something right. 


Sounds good :smile:  Culture vials like vacutainers??


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal] * 1
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Culture vials

And this stuff will get your shrooms cracker dry.

I sent them an email im waiting on a reply Ill let you know what they say.

EDIT: the rye is goood, organic and whole grains. May have to pick some up after WBS is gone. Fucking BARGIN ?6 postage!

Edited by badman (12/16/09 09:57 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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Yep the only reason i haven't got any is cus the postage to me is extra !!  like 15 pound extra :frown:



Does it make the shrooms taste funny??  Poisonous?


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Edited by emptyvessal (12/16/09 10:54 AM)

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emptyvessal said:
If anyone knows where to get a 6500K bulb without me having to order online let me know e.g like a Argos or something that every town has!

Also Silica Gel  same as above.


Try your local tropical fish shop. They sell fluorescent tubes in a variety of colour temps.
In particular, look for the word 'Actinic' indicating strong blue spectra. These are normally used for coral. The pink 'grolux' type are best for aquarium plants.
The actinics can be 6000-7200k or more, it's usually printed on the box.

B&Q sell dessicators of varying types.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal] * 1
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Oh you need the neutral one dont get the parfumed ones its just bags of calcium chloride, just make sure your shrooms dont touch the bag and make sure they are above the it

Edited by badman (12/16/09 03:17 PM)

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Yeah i got the neutral one as i thought lavender flavored shrooms would cause some rumours about me :wink:  :awedance:

Plus it would be full of extra horrible chemicals !  :cuteshit:



Will check out pets at home and see what they have thanks for the info  :smile:


wonder if they to some in a size T4 fluorescent hmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal] * 1
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Since this thread is still stickied i thought id post this AMAZING deal...

ASDA Smartprice Curry sauce

£0.05 for a limited time.

thats right, just 5p for pint jars for your grain!.

cant beat that, Im about to head out and buy however many they have on the shelf!.

And if you like cheap curry sauce to go over your chips your onto a winner both ways :wink:.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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Thats ASDA price!


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal] * 1
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You guys need to check out the smart price 'egg roll', funny shit But their pillows are good for polyfil.

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:congrats:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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badman said:
You guys need to check out the smart price 'egg roll', funny shit But their pillows are good for polyfil.


cuddly toys from charity shops are a cheap source for polyfill,
label will read'polyester'.
or...if your visiting family/friends with toddlers over christmas,
snatch one of theirs :evil:

this one>



was a gift from a friend whose b/f had bought it for her,and then 'done the dirty' on her.
she chose the site for the access hole :grin:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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I just steal my wife's cotton wool balls. Does anyone know the reason cotton wool isn't usually mentioned as an air exchange filter or is this just a regional availability thing?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax] * 1
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I'll be honest,only recently I've heard of the possibility of cotton wool vs polyfill.
And to be honest,Im not too sure of the viability.Would it actualy protect against contam spores?I don't know how tight the threads are on a microscopic scale...

And I did :lol: at that poor teddy.Way to immasculate the guy! :grin:


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John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say :hatsoff:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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Cotton wools organic and digestible by bacteria and shit if it gets wet, saying that it will work as a filter material but may be considered risky.

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Thanks, I just found the possible answer is that it is hydrophillic i.e. water absorbent.
I never noticed this because I only ever used a thick dab of fibers to separate the inside and outside layers of micropore tape adhesive through jar lid vent holes.
Never had any problems with grain jars but the filter would have had time to dry before the first shake.
I think I'll get some poly just in case!


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: djshoo] * 1
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try googling 'westfalia mail order' and search their website. they're about £30 and good for the price. pretty basic though - they're either fully on or off

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: memento18poker] * 1
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memento18poker said:
try googling 'westfalia mail order' and search their website. they're about £30 and good for the price. pretty basic though - they're either fully on or off



meant to say i'm talking about food dehydrators

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Great post for all the UKers!


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UK Explorer said:
Great post for all the UKers!


Glad you're finding it helpful, sir. :hatsoff:

Feel free to add any titbits of info or a good deal you come across-we want to make this thread as informative as possible-every good deal saves us all a few pence. :grin:


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John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
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My UPDATED UK supplies thread
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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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i see this thread is going along nicely, anyone got any idea where i can get some rubbing alcohol from in england? im in the market for some. thanks in advance.

i assume the safe bet is the pharmacy but i could do with an excuse for what its for!

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I get mine in Asda mate-they're like 79p a bottle in the hygiene section with the toothpastes and whatnot.


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John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
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My UPDATED UK supplies thread
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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: theGREBBLE] * 1
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I got mine from ebay 1 L with free shipping it costed about £6.

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Ego Questio said:
I get mine in Asda mate-they're like 79p a bottle in the hygiene section with the toothpastes and whatnot.


nice! is it sold as rubbing alcohol? or a different name?

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This stuff from asda is it IPA or ethanol matter of interest

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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It's marked as Dry Wash anti bacterial hand gel.
As to the alcohol base,offhand I'm not sure-I'll have to check when I get home.


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Over one's mind and over one's body the individual is sovereign.
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My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-Amsterdam wanderings
Stonesun's sclerotia infodump
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio] * 1
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74 replies! great thread for UK growers

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theGREBBLE said:
i see this thread is going along nicely, anyone got any idea where i can get some rubbing alcohol from in england? im in the market for some. thanks in advance.

i assume the safe bet is the pharmacy but i could do with an excuse for what its for!


The ingredient to look for is isopropyl alchohol also known as isopropanol, or IPA which is a methyl alcohol.

In the UK Rubbing alcohol and Surgical spirit is usually IPA diluted with water to about 70%. Surgical spirit has a bactericide added.

If you need an excuse, tell them your cleaning blood off an axe.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax] * 1
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good to see this thread is still alive guys

nicely done

any links to cheap dehydrators i can't find anything for bargain prices

and i'm getting pretty sick of fan drying them all :shakefist:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: topcat] * 1
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topcat said:
good to see this thread is still alive guys

nicely done

any links to cheap dehydrators i can't find anything for bargain prices

and i'm getting pretty sick of fan drying them all :shakefist:



http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/household/preserving_food_and_jam_making/preserving_food/dehydrating_/193811-food_dehydrator.htm

£30 :-)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: memento18poker] * 1
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memento18poker said:
topcat said:
good to see this thread is still alive guys

nicely done

any links to cheap dehydrators i can't find anything for bargain prices

and i'm getting pretty sick of fan drying them all :shakefist:



http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/household/preserving_food_and_jam_making/preserving_food/dehydrating_/193811-food_dehydrator.htm

£30 :-)


Beat me to it. I found this a few months ago and have been meaning to buy one!

Very cheap, well is around 1/3 of the price of other ones on the market anyway.

Im also going to be drying some jerky untill the mushies come.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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newbie_shroomer said:
memento18poker said:
topcat said:
good to see this thread is still alive guys

nicely done

any links to cheap dehydrators i can't find anything for bargain prices

and i'm getting pretty sick of fan drying them all :shakefist:



http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/household/preserving_food_and_jam_making/preserving_food/dehydrating_/193811-food_dehydrator.htm

£30 :-)


Beat me to it. I found this a few months ago and have been meaning to buy one!

Very cheap, well is around 1/3 of the price of other ones on the market anyway.

Im also going to be drying some jerky untill the mushies come.


the westfalia one is ok, gets pretty hot though so i dont know if that would affect potency

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Nah heats fine, just expose for as little as possible.

Edited by badman (01/14/10 05:23 PM)

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thanks for clarifying

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nice one for the link chaps


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awesome signature! rory breaker from lock stock :-)

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You can get liters of Pure IPA used for cleaning electrical components at Maplins. You have to ask for it as its not on the shelves and you may need to provide ID if you are lucky enough to look under 18.

Just say you are cleaning laser printers.

IPA 170 1ltr product code: RE71N  £10.99


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memento18poker said:
awesome signature! rory breaker from lock stock :-)


Thats Mr breaker to you today I'm Mr Breaker :wink:

Cheers man welcome to the shroomery


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If you hold back anything, I'll kill ya.
If you bend the truth or I think you're bending the truth, I'll kill ya. If you forget anything, I'll kill ya.
In fact, you're gonna have to work very hard to stay alive, Nick.
Now, do you understand everything I've said? 'Cause if you don't, I'll kill ya.

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topcat said:
memento18poker said:
awesome signature! rory breaker from lock stock :-)


Thats Mr breaker to you today I'm Mr Breaker :wink:

Cheers man welcome to the shroomery



ah man you had me in stitches when i read that. walked right into it ;-)


shotguns? what, like guns that fire shots?
oh you must be the brains then, yeah that's right, guns that fire shots

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forgot to say, thanks for the welcome

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no problem buddy keep it cosher :grin:

5 shrooms for you


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topcat said:
no problem buddy keep it cosher :grin:

5 shrooms for you


cheers, if i ever meet ya ill buy ya a an aristotle of the most ping-pong tiddly in the Nuclear sub... this slang is getting kinda forced now lol ;-)

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just bought that dehydrator so just got to hope for the flushes to fill it.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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This place has awesome BRF jars and a few other little mycology goodies
Plastic BRF jars


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Quality, they also have proper inoculation loops and forceps.
Good find :thumbup:

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Just for anyone in the UK looking for PF tek starting materials, Wilkinsons sell perlite and vermiculite in 5 litre bags for £1.86 each.  Holland and Barrett is also a good place for pretty much any substrate, all of which will be organic.

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:thumbup:


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Mother Earth, which is an organic store in highbury islington (london) , can supply you with rye grain. they have to order it but a 25 kg bag is only 20 quid. that should last any grower a least a few months. ive purchased from them many times. just call and order the bag and it will arrive five days later. bring a suitcase to pick it up or a car or your fucked lol. that stuff is heavy man. good luck to other growers in the uk. finding supplies here is much more difficult than in the united states.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ukshroomer] * 1
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ukshroomer said:
Mother Earth, which is an organic store in highbury islington (london) , can supply you with rye grain. they have to order it but a 25 kg bag is only 20 quid. that should last any grower a least a few months. ive purchased from them many times. just call and order the bag and it will arrive five days later. bring a suitcase to pick it up or a car or your fucked lol. that stuff is heavy man. good luck to other growers in the uk. finding supplies here is much more difficult than in the united states.



yup its much harder. A few years ago you couldn't find a pressure canner in this country (you could get pressure COOKERS but not canners).

But hey at least shrooms were legal here until recently ;-)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: memento18poker] * 1
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A search for manure on http://www.preloved.co.uk/ is also the way I found my horse manure guy.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Psil] * 1
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Hi guys,

Im new to the forum, had a look around and thought this would be the place to ask. Sorry if my question has already been asked elsewhere.

Where is the best place in the UK to buy pre-sterilized substrate jars? Im not a fan of Shroomtech.co.uk, so any other sources would be appreciated! Thanks guys

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Do you mean jars with pre-sterilized substrate ready to inoculate? Or just empty jars?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Mystery420] * 1
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Do it you self, seriously. Save £££ and learn something (as soon as you stop learning you DIE!)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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yep its really not that hard to do your own it'll be much more rewarding

Plenty of people to help you here if you get stuck


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Mystery420] * 1
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Mystery420 said:
Do you mean jars with pre-sterilized substrate ready to inoculate? Or just empty jars?


Pre-sterilized substrate ready to inoculate please.

I would happily do it myself, but unfortunately my current living conditions don't make this a viable option.

Also, my FC is a dome with a perlite tray. The dome has a BBQ style vent on the top for air. Under the dome and tray there is a glass sheet with a reptile heat mat attached to it. The heat mat is attached to an electric thermostat.

Would it be a good idea to drill some small holes in the dome for ventilation? The dome is being kept in a cleaned section of a wardrobe. I can leave the door of it open for some light if the cakes need it, or I can wire up some LED's if all it needs is blue light?

Here is a pic


Don't mean to hi-jack the thread :-P, but I did include links for products available in the UK!

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Type this into google UK search 'micro-science' take it from there, I warn you, it is costly.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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hey mate

to be honest, for a fruiting chamber just get a large rubbermaid container (like a big plastic box that you would use for storage) and buy a bag of perlite. put the perlite in the fruiting chamber and put cakes on top (on a piece of aluminium foil or something). It'll cost you like £10 and it will be larger than the thing you're looking at/have bought.

leave the wardrobe door open for light. Shrooms dont need loads but they need a bit. even if you just shine a desk light into the wardrobe for 30 minutes a day it should be fine. dont bother spending money on any lighting though, its a waste of money.

also you really dont need the heating mat. Shrooms when they're fruiting need a slightly COLDER temperature than they did when you incubate the jars (letting the mycelium colonize). You could use the heating mat for incubating the jars if you want, but dont bother using it when they're fruiting.

drilling holes is probably a good idea. fan the FC with a rolled up magazine every day as well if you want to ensure really good FAE (fresh air exchange)

as for pre-sterilized substrate im not sure.


good luck

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: memento18poker] * 1
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Thanks for the answers guys!

I would have used a big plastic box, but I only have the space you see in the picture to run my project.

Ill leave the door open for a bit and I have a tap light that I will put some batteries in and hit that for a little while each day as far as light goes.

So holes are a good idea then right? I can use my dremel and sort that out tomorrow.

Hope my spores get here tomorrow and I can carry out the inoculation. I planned to use the heat mat (with thermostat) to keep the cakes at between 79-82F and to keep the grow space warm as it is usually pretty damn chilly in Scotland :-)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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oh i see, if that's all the room you have then the thing you've bought is a good idea.
hopefully someone else will post about holes in the FC, ive never done it myself so i really can't advise you.

since you're in scotland definately use the heating mat for incubation lol

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: memento18poker] * 1
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If you have time to wait for your shrooms then i would look into sclerotia producing strains...that way you can just fill that small space with jars and leave them for a few months...then come back and harvest.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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I wish I was that patient!

Would like some for my birthday (17/02) but I think im pushin the time limits a bit much now :-(

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Its possible....but I doubt you will, being your first grow and having minimal proper kit.

Patience is the one key to this hobby....it gets a million times easier once youve had your first lot of shrooms and know what to expect.

and be very very careful using that heatmat, it could dry your jars out in no time and the job will be fucked.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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yep it gets much easier just follow the TEK and you'll be sorted :thumbup:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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thanks for the warning. plan to have the heat mat along the side or back of my area to heep the ambient temp up. It is hooket up to a thermostat, so it shouldnt get to serious.

Anyone else got advice on adding holes to the dome?

Edited by Data Byte Duce (01/20/10 03:23 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Yeah you could cut holes and stuff with synthetic pillow stuffing not cotton balls.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Mystery420] * 1
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Mystery420 said:
Yeah you could cut holes and stuff with synthetic pillow stuffing not cotton balls.


Cheers, but would it actually help anything you think? Or would it just drop my RH when the cakes are in?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Seriously guys, not the thread for this discussion......


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh] * 1
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Fleadh said:
Seriously guys, not the thread for this discussion......


Thanks for that.....very helpful...

Might you recommend a thread where I can ask these questions then?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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just create a thread in mushroom cultivation with your questions

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Nibin] * 1
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Nibin said:



If you are in the UK, the Tescos' shops sell their own brand of jam in identical shaped and sized jars, at around half the price if I remember right. The Tesco jam jars should be right next to the Bonne Maman jars.

I always buy my perlite and vermiculite from Homebase. It's often in the gardening part (usually the outdoors section).

When I'm doing BRF cakes, I buy Sainsbury's organic brown rice and grind it up with a coffee grinder.

I order my coir bricks online from http://www.wigglywigglers.co.uk/ - only a couple of days' delivery, and very cheap. The quality of the coir is really very good.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Data Byte Duce said:
Fleadh said:
Seriously guys, not the thread for this discussion......


Thanks for that.....very helpful...

Might you recommend a thread where I can ask these questions then?


Below this thread theres an entire forum dedicated to Mushroom cultivation on the biggest mushroom cultivation website on the interwebs and you cant see where else to ask the question other then a thread regarding UK cultivation supplies?



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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zedsdeadbaby] * 1
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Zedsdeadbaby said:
Nibin said:



If you are in the UK, the Tescos' shops sell their own brand of jam in identical shaped and sized jars, at around half the price if I remember right. The Tesco jam jars should be right next to the Bonne Maman jars.
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In Ireland those are about 3 euro each, cheaper then buying them online and having them shipped. Unfortunatly I dont eat jam and couldn't waste food and throw the jam out.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh] * 1
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Oi! :wink:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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For super cheapskates to make tubs. (this week only) 4:99

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_7653.htm

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_7653.htm


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh] * 1
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Ive found the cheapest place by far for tubs is Wilkinsons...

I have tonnes of 80ltr tubs from there....everytime ive been in they are around 5 or 6 quid with a lid.....have some funky coloured ones too

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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these are TWO for a fiver man. Lidl, epic cheapness.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh] * 1
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18ltr though....way too small for my needs.

80ltr's are spot on for mono's and fruiting chambers.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zedsdeadbaby] * 1
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Zedsdeadbaby said:
Nibin said:



If you are in the UK, the Tescos' shops sell their own brand of jam in identical shaped and sized jars, at around half the price if I remember right. The Tesco jam jars should be right next to the Bonne Maman jars.

I always buy my perlite and vermiculite from Homebase. It's often in the gardening part (usually the outdoors section).

When I'm doing BRF cakes, I buy Sainsbury's organic brown rice and grind it up with a coffee grinder.

I order my coir bricks online from http://www.wigglywigglers.co.uk/ - only a couple of days' delivery, and very cheap. The quality of the coir is really very good.



I have seen them jars and have been looking for coco coir supplier. was thinking eBay but your site is 30p cheaper.

Question:

What you do to your lids on those jam jars?
How much spawn you mix with each brick of coir?
Add Coffee?

If so people use coffee grounds? Any particular make?
Or Liquid Coffee? (nescafe?)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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I get a nail and hammer 4 inoculation points into each lid - I wouldn't recommend this unless you're very good with sterility, as the more inoculation points a lid has, the more likely the jar could get contaminated.

The way I grow mushrooms is with coir/BRF or coir/WBS at a 3:1 (coir:substrate) rate into aluminum baking trays, so I only take off an amount of coir roughly half the size of a can of cola to fill four medium baking trays. I know that's not very specific, but I don't do large monotubs, just four or so baking trays that go into one shotgun terrarium. One brick lasts pretty much a few months for me. I don't add coffee and I don't case. To be honest, my tek is simplistic compared to most on here; just straight up mix BRF or WBS substrate with coir, dump it in a tray and harvest substantial amounts of mushrooms from them.

I tried casing a few times, and I'd say I apply them fairly well... but I just don't think there's actually any significant increase in yields. I searched this up and I see plenty of others saying the same.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zedsdeadbaby] * 1
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Hi guys,

Found a really good supplier for mycology equipment in the UK!

They are called Applied Microscience Ltd and they are based in Newcastle.

They have pretty much everything you need if you are just starting your mycology experiments or an advanced cultivator.

Their communication and shipping is very quick and they are happy to give advice!

They don't sell cubensis spore syringes, only edibles.........Om nom nom nom :grin:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Data Byte Duce] * 1
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Why aye man.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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badman said:
Why aye man.



Sorry man, I don't get it :confused:

I'm an American living in Scotland, been here since 2003 but the only time I have ever heard that phrase was when a guest on Top Gear said it when he was talking about Essex.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh] * 1
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Fleadh said:
For super cheapskates to make tubs. (this week only) 4:99

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_7653.htm

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_7653.htm


i see yoursuper cheapskates and raise you two tight arsed MOFOs':cool:




many florists have their fresh flowers delivered in these and will often give them away, or for a small donation to a charity,25p each in one shop.

does away with the need for perlite,which may be hard to find and expensive for some in the uk.produce ~2oz dry per bucket


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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Nice going deucedbi9, like the bucket idea.

Data Byte Duce - Microscience is good but very over priced for the stuff, i use it though for myco bags as i want to guarantee some shrooms. He is very quick at delivering the goods.

Also that link has been mentioned in the thread before.

For those that have the Westfalia dehydrator (HERE):

I bought this and have to say looks like a hairdryer in a round box and is very noisy.

How long does it take to dry out mushrooms?
Is the heat on it ok or shall i disable it?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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newbie_shroomer said:
(HERE):


bit pricy.very cheap alternative.take an unused shotgun type FC push pea-sticks,knitting needles, wooden dowel or somesuch through the holes,to act as 'rafters'. cut quarter inch rigid plastic mesh to size to act as 'floors' for each layer.
cut one large hole in side and attach a computer fan.place in front of radiator,turn on.voila.

did i mention, i'm a tight arsed MOFO :grin:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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yeah i thought I would buy it as want to dry fruit and make some jerky so will see more than shrooms.

Once seeing it a PC fan in a box is the same at the end of the day.


Anyone buy shrooms from Camden? If so can your remember the price and weight you got for that?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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My first shrooms were bought in Camden, in 'The Amsterdam of London' basement, back in the legal days. I got my first ever spores from there too 30 quid it cost us.

Normally it was £20-30 for 30 g punnet of cubes. Truffles were £30 for 15 g and Pans costed £30 for 10 or 15 g.

An absolute rip off when you think what you can get for £30 in terms of supplies.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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I thought it was around £20 but 30g is a lot for 1 person, thought a normal trip is around 20-25g?

I used just go halves on 1 lot and that had a good effect!

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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Depends I do 30-35 g in tea.

I swear they used to be weak, we used to eat 50g and not get bombd like youd expect.

While 20-30 g home grown is a happy trip.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman] * 1
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Hello fellows

It really is difficult to find so many of the supplies that our American friends take for granted.

Anyone know a supplier of (reasonably-sized = much less than 25kg) blood meal, by itself?  Without bones or other stuff?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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gday i dont know of any but someone else might . I shall have a look though :geicogecko:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal] * 1
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blood meal and bone meal can be bought from B&Q and wilkinsons..

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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thought i'd post a pic of my bodged up dehydrator.for the visual learners.:wink:



Quote:
take an unused shotgun type FC push pea-sticks,knitting needles, wooden dowel or somesuch through the holes,to act as 'rafters'. cut quarter inch rigid plastic mesh to size to act as 'floors' for each layer.
cut one large hole in side and attach a computer fan.place in front of radiator,turn on.voila.



could probably fit another couple of "floors" if i needed more drying room.

cheapest dehydrator i could find on e-bay was £40 inc p+p.
save the money and buy a pc instead:smile:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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Zed said:
blood meal and bone meal can be bought from B&Q and wilkinsons..


Thanks Zed, I searched on B&Q's website and got zero results.  I'll take a look in store next time I pass by, and check Wilkinson's as well.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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How about Tyvek generally?  Is it available under other names in the UK?  Anyone know a good source?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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You can get it on ebay. its like 1.50 for a tyvek overall that you can cut up. But maybe you could find it in b&q but might be more expensive


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Mystery420] * 1
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well poundland have painting overalls but unsure if this is tyvek.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer] * 1
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Mystery420 said:
You can get it on ebay. its like 1.50 for a tyvek overall that you can cut up. But maybe you could find it in b&q but might be more expensive


newbie_shroomer said:
well poundland have painting overalls but unsure if this is tyvek.


Ordered some off ebay, thanks for the tip.  I've seen painting overalls in B&Q etc, but so far they've never mentioned tyvek.  They were that porous polyester stuff - with the little regularly-spaced holes - which I don't think is the same thing (now, whether it would work or not, different story I guess, not willing to experiment with it yet!)


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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Just a quick note on the bloodmeal... Id be very careful with it, it is very potent stuff and if your wanting it for a nitrogen boost I suggest you go to MaccyD's and ask for their old coffee grinds instead... (or obviously anywhere that sells fresh ground coffee).

They will be a lot more suited to your needs.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Zed] * 1
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heres what I do. Its cheap, easy, you'll have loads of pots to do your bidding with, plus plenty of nice soup and sauce to go with your pasta.

In sainsburys and probably other supermarkets there are food containters that are plastic tubs with clip-on lids. They're the same as the plastic tubs you can get from micro-science except they don't have filter lids (which we'll get to later) and they don't cost the earth so long as you buy soup and pasta sauce.

basically they look like this:


They come in all shapes and sizes with all sorts of yummy processed foods inside. The big soup ones are the best, especially for grain.

(bare in mind that some packets have labels that will peel off, some do not. Pacino's pasta sauces and sainsburys brand soups are perfect. the label in the picture above won't come off, but that doesn't present too much of a problem)

Now go on ebay and get some polyfil. In the uk it will all be under the name of 'Polyester Filling'. La-de-da!

its cheap aswell. I bought £3 worth and had enough to stuff a display panda carcass.

Punch 2 wholes with a nail in either side of the lid and put the polyfil through. that works as an air filter.

Now use your pots as normal. fill them with substrate, leave the lids slightly open and pressure cook them (not directly on the bottom of the cooker. Don't worry, they won't melt unless you leave it on too long and steam all the water out. I'd also advice cooking them for less than the recommended time since slighty open pots allows the germ killing steam to penetrate deeper. Dispute it if you want but this always works for me).

As soon as you open the cooker close the lids and let the pots cool down.

Now get your spore syringe and some surgical tape. Use a lighter to heat the needle red hot, then you can inject through the top of the tub, drop the spores, remove the needle and quickly cover with surgical tape. This method makes keeping contaminants out much easier.

Have fun guys...

In return, could anyone recomend any good brands of bird seed or other grain I could get in the UK cheaper than rye grain....

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg] * 1
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Yah, those and 'innocent' veggie pots are good for various things.  I use them for dunking individual cakes.

BTW everyone, Sainsburys "small resealable all purpose bags" (sandwich bags) are not watertight.  Two nights in a row I've been trying to use them to fill syringes from a print, whilst my valuable spore water leaks all over the floor of my glovebox.  The first time I thought it might be my fault, but now I'm sure they're just fucking leaky.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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hmm, what are you trying to use the sandwich bags for? the shot glass method has always worked for me. plus you can use it to top-up syringes when they're almost dead, for instance: boil the kettle, fill a glass with boiling water, cover with cling film and leave for an hour or so. then get your almost empty syringe, burn the needle, inject, and suck more water in. you can do this loads of times and still be left with 1000s of spores in the syringe each time.


By the way, does anyone know the best way to use make agar and liquid cultures in the UK. I bought a bottle of agar off micro-science but it was terribly over-priced and filled about 4 dishes. i want to look into making my own but ingredients are so hard to source.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg] * 1
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ce_greg said:
hmm, what are you trying to use the sandwich bags for?


Print in baggie, empty blanks into baggie, rub spores off print, fill syringes by poking them into baggie.  Works great unless your baggie's already got holes :shrug:

ce_greg said:
By the way, does anyone know the best way to use make agar and liquid cultures in the UK. I bought a bottle of agar off micro-science but it was terribly over-priced and filled about 4 dishes. i want to look into making my own but ingredients are so hard to source.


Did the exact same thing :smile:.  Look up the recipes for PDA on this site; you can find UK sellers on Ebay selling agar (vegan food sellers) and dextrose (workout supplement sellers) in powder form.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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I see. Agar is that seaweed stuff and dextrose is pure glucose or summin'?

The whole potato boiling bit seems a bit confusing... Do I slice and boil up the potatoes and then use the water as the agent for the dextrose and agar?

And then can I eat the potatoes afterwards? :crazy2:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg] * 1
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ce_greg said:
I see. Agar is that seaweed stuff and dextrose is pure glucose or summin'?


Agar is seaweed that seaweed stuff.
Dextrose is 'right handed' glucose, all the same as far as the mycelium knows. Use them interchangeably.

ce_greg said:
The whole potato boiling bit seems a bit confusing... Do I slice and boil up the potatoes and then use the water as the agent for the dextrose and agar?



Yes.

ce_greg said:
And then can I eat the potatoes afterwards? :crazy2:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg] * 1
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ce_greg said:
I see. Agar is that seaweed stuff and dextrose is pure glucose or summin'?


Dextrose is a type of sugar, yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrose (it's not glucose though)

ce_greg said:
Do I slice and boil up the potatoes and then use the water as the agent for the dextrose and agar?


Sounds like you've got it.  :thumbup:

Making your own agar this way is going to be a lot cheaper than those 100ml bottles they're selling online.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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andymc said:
(it's not glucose though)


D'OH!  It would help if I read my own link, eh?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc] * 1
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Good grow stuff this week at aldi for shroomers.
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/offers_week07Thursday10.htm

Scalpels:


Mini indorr greenhouses for keeping that RH up.


and an assortment of other pots and stuff for general growing.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg] * 1
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Try your local oriental supermarket for agar agar. You should be able to make a litre of jelly for less than £5.
It comes in extruded translucent ribbons a bit like noodles and just needs grinding and sieving to make a homogeneous powder just like the overpriced scientific supplies.
If you don't grind it to a powder then the liquid just ends up a bit lumpy but still usable.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax] * 1
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great thread...:thumbup:
did not manage to pick many p.sem this year really thinking of trying my hand at this growing stuff, some really useful UK info here THANKS...:grin:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: jay.p] * 1
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:superiority:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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be careful using those indoor greenhouse tents if you want to humidify them. the zips break extremely easily rendering your tent useless and all your mushrooms and cakes dry

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg]
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Who is recommended for spore syringes in the UK or delivery to the UK?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Quirrel]
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mrcashop is a shroomery sponsor


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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Get yer spores from the Free Spore Ring in The Netherlands

www.fsre.nl

dont worry about making syringes. its easy and risk is very low as long as your sterile

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg]
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I can vouch for both MRCA and FSRE (!!!) for spore prints.  There are IME some other (non-sponsor) UK-based vendors supplying good quality syringes.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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MRCA is a very good vendor

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Mystery420]
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Jars were a bit of a bitch I ended up getting some REALLY cheap ones in Lidl, under 60p and large, they have all kinds. It's cheaper to buy full ones and that is fucked, I hated throwing away all that food but you can only eat so many peas 'n' carrots.. Spores101 have been very good and shipping is reasonable and quick. There are almost always cheap PCs in local 2nd hand ads, got a prestige for £10.


Top Tip for incubation: a fishtank heater in a 5ltr mineral water bottle in polystyrene/styrofoam box, amazing for under £10.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: egodeathflux]
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egodeathflux said:
got a prestige for £10.



You jammy, jammy, jammy bastard. :lol:


But again, folks, I can't recommend the FSRE enough (obviously, any FSR is :awe:, but it's the Netherlands to whom we Brits turn when the myco bug takes hold...)

In my first ever dealing with them, I wrote a little letter in with my order and 2 euro, telling them how awesome I think they were for doing what they do-basically geeking on at them, as you do-and they sent me three prints along with a "cheers-have a great trip(and life!)" note.

I mean c'mon-what awesome guys! :grin:

FRSE ftw.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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Keep your eyes open on the FSRE they should be getting some nice exotics :uptosomething:

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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badman said:
Keep your eyes open on the FSRE they should be getting some nice exotics :uptosomething:


Hello....?  :evil2:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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Thanks for the advice on spore suppliers.

I may well start with a syringe before trying to use a print, would rather waste 10 quid of my money than somebody's work in a print the first time around.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Quirrel]
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making a syringe isn't hard at all. you won't fuck it up

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg]
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ce_greg said:
be careful using those indoor greenhouse tents if you want to humidify them. the zips break extremely easily rendering your tent useless and all your mushrooms and cakes dry


Gaffa or duct tape as a temporary repair? Sellotape if desperate.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax]
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This might be a solution if the zipper blows out.I might order a few just to have on hand for other custom projects too. The only thing is, I don't know if you can shorten it...

Peel and Stick Zipper



(sorry I know this supplier isn't from the UK but they do ship internationally)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: wildrose]
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All American Pressure Canners on UK ebay

Ebay Seller

Size can be adjusted in the drop down box

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ozzysmygod]
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ozzysmygod said:
All American Pressure Canners on UK ebay

Ebay Seller

Size can be adjusted in the drop down box


Good link my man!
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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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Does anyone know of any good uk vendors that sell psilocybe cyan (woodlover) spores?

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ce_greg]
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Dont think I can link to the site, as its not a vendor. Il PM it you instead

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ozzysmygod]
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Hey Shroomers

Near the start we spoke about the dehydrator below, basically wanted to know if anyone has recorded a temperature that its throws out?

As some said they took out heating element and others left it. What do you recommend?

http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/household/preserving_food_and_jam_making/preserving_food/dehydrating_/193811-food_dehydrator.htm

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: newbie_shroomer]
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hey not sure what temperture they run at but the post detailing how to remove the element is below

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3182839#3182839

i have found this post invaluable for drawing up a shopping list of stuff i need, thanks all

does anyone know if a tea urn would be suitable for pasteurising bulk substrates?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOMEFRONT-16-LITRE-CATERING-HOT-WATER-TEA-URN-VE217EB_W0QQitemZ110488583472QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Restaurant_RL?hash=item19b9a1fd30

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: No-way]
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this thread is looking a bit long so sorry if someone has already posted a supplier for spawn bags but i feel this site is pretty reasonable- 45p per bag including postage! a huge saving compared to ordering off a site in the states where I would have had to order hundreds just to warrent the high cost of delivery

pre sterilised petri dishes and agar mediums also reasonably priced
http://www.annforfungi.co.uk/shop/equipment/cat_27.html

the filter patches are good for jars too I cut them into 4 and fix them over a hole in the lid with micropore tape, was thinking of sealing with silicone but so far no need. No contams as yet (PF tek) will start some grain when they are done

(dont fill a bag of grain and inject it with spores straight up it takes too long to colonise and will likely get contaminated best used for G2G transfers)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ssv]
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Hey guys,

I want to thank everyone who's contributed to this thread-I had no idea so many people had so many funky little mycology tips on this little isle of ours. :wink:

I've updated the original post with a list of most (not all) of everyone's tips-particularly those of you who were kind enough to post links. As SSV pointed out, this thread is a tad long now, so hopefully if you all keep updating us with bargains you find, I'll keep the front page updated and the poor noobs don't have to sift through 10+ pages of our ramblings. :lol:

Thanks again guys, you're all
:awethumb:


My :hatsoff: to you all, good sirs.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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I was just wondering what you guys use for liquid-culture lids.
Oh and grain jar lids.
Micropore tape and RTV silicon?

Also has anyone tried Quart or litre jars in a Prestige 6l High Dome Pressure cooker?
I saw those large coffee jars, but the lids look kinda crappy.


Oxy.

Edited by OxyProx (03/11/10 10:20 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: OxyProx]
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OxyProx said:
I was just wondering what you guys use for liquid-culture lids.
Oh and grain jar lids.
Micropore tape and RTV silicon?


I just use micropore over the lid hole.  Try not to get it wet when you agitate though.  Further discussion should be in mush cult.

OxyProx said:
Also has anyone tried Quart or litre jars in a Prestige 6l High Dome Pressure cooker?
I saw those large coffee jars, but the lids look kinda crappy.


Yes, the "Deluxe glass Preserving Jars 1000g" from Barnitts can just barely fit 2 inside those PCs, though you have to stand up one and lay the second one on top of it horizontally.  They're small PCs but they get the job done.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK-**UPDATED 9th March 2010** [Re: Ego Questio]
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ty

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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Hey.

I found this pressure cooker on ebay. It's11L as far as capacity is concerned and is rather cheap too.

11L for £23.95


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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If you buy it report back on how good it is cheers :smile:  :geicogecko:




BIGBOY PRESSURE COOKER! 22 LITRES:shoosh:


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Edited by emptyvessal (03/14/10 02:10 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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Copious Notes said:
Hey.

I found this pressure cooker on ebay. It's11L as far as capacity is concerned and is rather cheap too.

11L for £23.95




Hve you bought this????  I emailed the guy he said they are made by KitchenKing in India but he hasnt told me the PSI yet any ideas any one??  :shoosh:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal]
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Hi just wanted to post to thank everyone for this useful thread and also add http://www.micro-science.co.uk/ to the list. Great for lab supplies, containers and other equipment. Friendly and helpful service.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal]
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Hello.

Yes I bought one.

I can fit 4 big jars in at a time.

There was a little bit of a risk when purchasing one with no pressure gauge. However, it works perfectly.

I just need to keep an eye on it every now and again. I usually do a water drop test to see if it has reached a reasonable temperature.

Basically, I wet my hands and let a drip from them hit the lid of the cooker. If it boils instantly (say, 1-3 secs) I try to maintain this for 60-90 minutes.

I've had no contaminates.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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Hey Pixie..... ive used micro science too for inoculation loops and pre sterilisd rye bags :thumbup: The guy's really helpfull and communication is good


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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Copious Notes said:
Hello.

Yes I bought one.

I can fit 4 big jars in at a time.

There was a little bit of a risk when purchasing one with no pressure gauge. However, it works perfectly.

I just need to keep an eye on it every now and again. I usually do a water drop test to see if it has reached a reasonable temperature.

Basically, I wet my hands and let a drip from them hit the lid of the cooker. If it boils instantly (say, 1-3 secs) I try to maintain this for 60-90 minutes.

I've had no contaminates.



Does it not tell you the pressure it runs at in the instructions?? Or does it come with no info?

4 big jars being quart size? or litre size say? could you take a pic please id be intrested in seeing it thanks :smile:  :billymaythumbup:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal]
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Hello Emptyvessal.

It can hold 4 Quart Jars.

Also, as far as instructions were concerned, they were very badly written(terrible English) with no mention of psi.

I'm gonna be investing in an AA PC as soon as possible but I recommend the 11L from ebay for anyone looking for a cheap fix.

I'm afraid I can not post any pics just now as I am away from home. I'll see if the instructions are kicking about when I get back though. I'll maybe put a scan up. They're worth a laugh.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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I would never buy that thing.  Given how dangerous a faulty PC could be (think fatal) and the fact that we don't know what PSI it can reach, I'd say picking up the ~£30 Prestiges from Argos (see earlier in the thread) is a much safer bet.  They're small but they do 15 PSI and you can trust them.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
I would never buy that thing.  Given how dangerous a faulty PC could be (think fatal) and the fact that we don't know what PSI it can reach, I'd say picking up the ~£30 Prestiges from Argos (see earlier in the thread) is a much safer bet.  They're small but they do 15 PSI and you can trust them.


Hey andymc.

Yeah, I already have one of the prestige ones. I got it last year. I have to work it in pretty much the same manner as the 11L from ebay as neither have a pressure gauge.

I did however know the risks I was taking by getting one that wasn't branded. Luckily this time, I got one that isn't faulty though.

It honestly works like a dream. I was sceptical at first but I am glad that it worked out. I have used it a lot in the past few months with no troubles.

It probably wont last me years like a top range model but it works well for now. As long as you are careful and inspect your equipment thoroughly for signs of damage/wear, there shouldn't be any problem.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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Copious Notes said:
andymc said:
I would never buy that thing.  Given how dangerous a faulty PC could be (think fatal) and the fact that we don't know what PSI it can reach, I'd say picking up the ~£30 Prestiges from Argos (see earlier in the thread) is a much safer bet.  They're small but they do 15 PSI and you can trust them.


Hey andymc.

Yeah, I already have one of the prestige ones. I got it last year. I have to work it in pretty much the same manner as the 11L from ebay as neither have a pressure gauge.

I did however know the risks I was taking by getting one that wasn't branded. Luckily this time, I got one that isn't faulty though.

It honestly works like a dream. I was sceptical at first but I am glad that it worked out. I have used it a lot in the past few months with no troubles.

It probably wont last me years like a top range model but it works well for now. As long as you are careful and inspect your equipment thoroughly for signs of damage/wear, there shouldn't be any problem.



Just because it was made in a country that doesn't speak English doesn't mean it is any worse or better than any other PC around.

I had a look on the kitchen king website there stuff looks good to me they prob dont have a big English speaking market as they are based in india so they haven't put the effort into getting the instructions correct etc  Indian food is famous all over the world so why cant they make a PC hmmmmmm?

If it was made in Australia would people mistrust it then???


You have one it works what more evidence is needed?  :geicogecko:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal]
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Thanks emptyvessal.

I agree. What I got works great.

On another note, it may be worthwhile checking local Asian food stores for cheap PC's.

I was in a local Indian food store and they were selling a 15L PC for £35.00. I asked if they could get bigger ones in store but that's as big as they go unfortunately.

If anyone is able to find somewhere that does them bigger, please let me know.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Copious Notes]
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Might check out my local chinese market :fishing:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: emptyvessal]
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I have a glass autoclavable syringe (10ml) with a metal leur lock that I can spare I would like to aquire a print with it if anyones interested. I know there is a market place for this but rather than making another 40 posts just for the sake of getting in i thought id try here as it is frequented by uk members. pm me if your interested

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ssv]
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If you're looking for plastic BRF jars, look no further than Poundland.

I got 10 for a quid, and they're all coming up nicely :smile:

Our shop isn't that big, but they had a variety of sizes and shapes. They've also got quite a few larger plastic trays, you can get a couple of those for a quid too.

I also found the tougher 'plastic specimen containers' you linked to http://www.scuddlebutt3.co.uk/LaboratorySupplies.htm for. I got a pack of 10 of those, delivered for under a fiver from eBay.

Also, I have bought BRF from holosfoods, there lower delivery knocks £2 off per bag the the link in OP :smile:

If you're serious about BRF, you can get 25kg of the stuff from here delivered for £38.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Frinkz]
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I bought my PF jars from morrisons. Morrison's brand organic jam's. Even made with fair trade sugar :wink:. Were cheaper then the BM jams from there and cheaper then at tesco. And there were no glass jars at my asda suitable for pf tek. I went for the glass as I'm trying to do everything as organic as possible.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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I've eyed up Nutella for jars-from-food - they have larger jam-jar ones or smaller tapered glass, with a plastic screw lid.

They're in poundland too!


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Frinkz said:
If you're looking for plastic BRF jars, look no further than Poundland.

I got 10 for a quid, and they're all coming up nicely :smile:

Our shop isn't that big, but they had a variety of sizes and shapes. They've also got quite a few larger plastic trays, you can get a couple of those for a quid too.

I also found the tougher 'plastic specimen containers' you linked to http://www.scuddlebutt3.co.uk/LaboratorySupplies.htm for. I got a pack of 10 of those, delivered for under a fiver from eBay.

Also, I have bought BRF from holosfoods, there lower delivery knocks £2 off per bag the the link in OP :smile:

If you're serious about BRF, you can get 25kg of the stuff from here delivered for £38.


Good man! :super:

OP edited.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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remeber u want small jars for brf cakes and big jars for wbs and berries. the biggest your PC can take.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: santaclausmush]
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Hi All!  Have some 20ml Syringes (Luer Lock) + 2inch 18G Needles for sale if anyone is after any. Perfect for Liquid Cultures  :geicogecko:


PM for details :billymaythumbup:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: tugwax]
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Sorry for the noob question. I'm from the us living in the UK. and this whole not getting rubbing alcohol is confusing. Can I use surgical spirits in its place? I tried it on a camera lens..... That was a mistake. I'm guessing that the gums in it left residue on the lens. I got if off eventually. Oh lessons learned. This is a good thread. Think there is and need to have out own section or anything? Some items either aren't available or have different names.

Thanks everyone


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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Yeh you cant really use Surgical spirit unless its the cheap cheap one (maybe) most surgical spirits BP have other stuffs in it.

I buy pure IPA from ebay and dilute to 70% v/v, easy peasy.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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Sorry for the questions.

1 I realized that i could ebay it by typing IPA. That was easy. :wink:

2. Whats the "cheap one" in reference to surgical spirits.[might want to answer this for others, I am going to spring for some IPA(sounds Like beer)]

3. whats BP stand for?

Thanks for your time man


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Edited by Base Icks (03/25/10 08:12 PM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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No worries, British Pharmacopoeia

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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You can buy IPA in Maplins Electronics stores. You need to ask for it as its behind teh counter and you have to be over 18.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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Some one had told me that I could get it from a chemist. I tried a few in town. I asked for isopropyl alcohol and they were like "wtf are you on about" :P Might have been the american accent. Wonder if i ask for IPA if it would make a difference? anyone know if chemists carry it?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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You need to ask for rubbing alcohol.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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ipa isopropyl alchohal?

why ask a chemist? 

light malt dextrose?

im lost why u need rubbing alchohal..

im dum

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: santaclausmush]
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santaclausmush said:
ipa isopropyl alchohal?

why ask a chemist? 

light malt dextrose?

im lost why u need rubbing alchohal..

im dum


We're talking about supplies required for the cultivation of mushrooms.  Did you mean to join some other site?  Perhaps you were looking for this one?

Or perhaps you're just too fucking lazy to use the search function, and don't mind coming across like a retard?

Not only do you seem dumb, but also you can't spell, punctuate, or form coherent sentences.  Also, you've been registered on this site for 2 years, yet you seem to have learned very little.  Why interrupt an intelligent, informative thread to publicly declare that you don't know your arse from your elbow?  It isn't witty BTW.

PS> Maybe all your grows wouldn't contam if you took the time to learn about IPA and what it's used for.


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Edited by andymc (03/26/10 10:35 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Whoh,Andy mate,be calm.

Not saying your assessment may not be accurate,but either way it's not worth working yourself up for the vitriol.

:mariopeace:

cheers again for the syringe-I went a little OTT last night and used practically all of it 'noccing up nearly 18 jars.
Will let ya know how it goes.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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You're right, I'm just tired of this guy's willful ignorance.  I'm going to stick him on ignore :idea:.  That's better.  Whoo it's Friday!


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Bah,rub it in you bastard. :lol:

some of us are working alllll weekend. :picard:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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BTW everyone who's UK-based, I've still got a number of free, surplus syringes to give away.  :pm: if interested.

Ego I can send you another (of a different type?) if you need it.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Well,I'd surely love one,but there's gotta be noobs who need them more than me!
I can't believe your thread faded (bumped now :grin:)-I just feel guilty nabbing something a newbie could really use (of only they'd bloody see the thread) :facepalm:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Ego Questio]
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Id take one but Im only doing stones now and I figured a new guy would need it more.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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andymc ur my hero..

the world is now very worthy for ur presents.
your greatness is wild and beyond all persons dreams.
carry on ur wisdom and greatness to others and tell ur husband i love him too...  fkn pakie sandni??A wanka

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: santaclausmush]
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I did ask for rubbing alcohol at first. When they didn't seem to know what I was talking about, I gave them more info hoping they could help me.

I couldn't find it and wanted to nok today. I sprayed and wipes everything down with spray dettol, crept for jar holes and needle. Flamed it till glowing red though thoroughly. Did my first nok on 10 pf cakes make with organic rye flour. I did half with a b+ spore print, and half with a goodie from AndyMc, cheers for that man.

really excited to see how it comes out. Fingers crossed on no contams. I did .5cc in each of 4 holes for 4 jars and used 1cc in the last jar. I left 1cc in syringe, wondering if it its enough to use as a mother for more? I'm assuming that it is. I'll look into it more next week. Just been a bit busy. I have to be a bit careful atm though. I'm living with the parentals till I get my work visa and step dad isnt too stoked on me growing. Trying to ease him into it. Cant really do it behind his back and rather have the respect there. Think i can get him to be ok with it. Just need to grow some nice shiitake or somethin tasty like that so that he gets some out of it as well :P So i dint know if i should be keeping needles in the fridge atm. going to keep em in a cool dark place for now :smile:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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You probably can find Denatured Alcohol somewhere. Works the same.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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Is that turpentine? Can also get Methylated spirits. And something else that is clear colored and sold as turpentine substitute, or something along those lines. Usually sold by paint. Used for removing paint I think. Anyone able to clarify this as I'm not 100% positive on names or spelling.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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Methylated- that's the stuff! :thumbup: Use it just like isopropyl.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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well its purple so they maybe put either dye in it or something else that is probably not that cool. I'm trying to keep my grow as organic as possible. Not even letting it come in to contact with plastic except for syringes where needed of course. Anyone know exactly whats in meths spirits?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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You can use the methylated spirits ffs. :rolleyes:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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You can use it but doesnt have the same buzz as IPA. Someone said Maplins to get pure IPA, thats worth looking into.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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the 1 liter can is the better option, though the spray version is pictured ignore that.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=28994


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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yeh fuck the aerosol, get a hand sprayer and fill with IPA

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said:
You probably can find Denatured Alcohol somewhere. Works the same.


indeed you can. just ask your loacal tramp where he gets his meths from.


Quote:
badman said
yeh fuck the aerosol, get a hand sprayer and fill with IPA


no.fuck spraying ANYTHING flamable around my gaff.
just be sterile where you need to be sterile,and clean where you need to be clean.END OF.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: deucedbi9]
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Is fine man i spray IPA all the time, its standard practise.

Primarily used for glove boxing things.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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badman said:
Is fine man i spray IPA all the time, its standard practise.

Primarily used for glove boxing things.


standard practice for those who don't understand the phrase
"just be sterile where you need to be sterile,and clean where you need to be clean".

i wipe my glove box/shelves down with a damp cloth before use.
never spayed oust/ipa or any other shit in my space before going to work.


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Edited by deucedbi9 (03/28/10 09:57 AM)

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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Thats your call. I use presept to clean my work surfaces, spray IPA on the autoclave bags... Its not like i spray IPA willy nilly, it has its role.

Standard practice in  a grade A sterile room so why not in my glove box?

A damp cloth just sounds a bit blag for my liking.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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IPA is available on ebay in 500ml 1L 5L and 25Ls aswell as different % (100% 70% etc)

The same store also sell distilled water, and other usefull chemicals

Biostains Ebay Store

or if you dont want to use ebay here

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
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Fleadh said:
You can buy IPA in Maplins Electronics stores. You need to ask for it as its behind teh counter and you have to be over 18.


Picked up some of this at Maplins tonight (not behind the counter though - buddy asked me if I wanted it for my xbox - umm yeah, that's exactly right).  It doesn't seem to have a percentage marked on it.  Does that suggest it's pure 100%?  If so, should it be diluted down to (say) 70%?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Yes yes if it is pure dilute to 70% with SDW if poss.

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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Aldi are flogging 20 quid aquariums with pumps next week

http://aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_13616.htm

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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: ozzysmygod]
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Anyone know a meatspace store that sells distilled water?  Searches of the Co-op, Sainsburys, Waitrose, ASDA, Boots, Homebase, B&Q, and Wilkinson websites turned up nada.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Halfords might have some near the car batteries.

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andymc said:
Anyone know a meatspace store that sells distilled water?  Searches of the Co-op, Sainsburys, Waitrose, ASDA, Boots, Homebase, B&Q, and Wilkinson websites turned up nada.


Distilled water is often used in humidifiers and for ironing clothes. You can't by it with other bottled water?

Not like you need it anyway, tapwater is fine.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
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Good thought badman.  A search of their site turns up only 'de-ionized' water, which I know isn't the same -- but is it equally good?  If I boil it to sterilize?

Thanks Doc_T, but things that are common in the US can be frustratingly difficult to find here (as you've probably noticed!).  It looks like I can order distilled online, but it just seems goofy to have a courier bring me a gallon of water at work :facepalm: (which I then have to carry home on my motorcycle).

Some of the stores have distilled water for ironing, to which they've then added fragrances and other nonsense. :rolleyes:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
things that are common in the US can be frustratingly difficult to find here (as you've probably noticed!). 


Understood/agreed.

andymc said:
Some of the stores have distilled water for ironing, to which they've then added fragrances and other nonsense. :rolleyes:


And none of them or can get plain? Seems odd.
Try a medical supply house. Not a local pharmacy, but a place that sells wheelchairs and powered beds.

Though again, there's absolutely no need for distilled water.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said:
often used in humidifiers


Humidifiers?  In the UK?  Hahaha.  Ha. 

Homebase has a nice selection of de-humidifiers though :smile:.

If you want a humidifier around here the best bet seems to be ordering from Amazon etc.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
Doc_T said:
often used in humidifiers


Humidifiers?  In the UK?  Hahaha.  Ha.


Somebody there uses humidity. For something. Go find it.

Or distill your own, if you really feel a need to have it. It's not 'sterile', BTW.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said:
Somebody there uses humidity. For something. Go find it.


Of course, I was just being a smarty pants  :grin:

It seems to be true that humidifiers aren't a common item here though.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
Of course, I was just being a smarty pants  :grin:

It seems to be true that humidifiers aren't a common item here though.


Sure, that's true here as well. Florida is already humid, for example.
Are you using this water for spore syringes? How much do you need?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
Doc_T said:
Somebody there uses humidity. For something. Go find it.


Of course, I was just being a smarty pants  :grin:

It seems to be true that humidifiers aren't a common item here though.


(Indeed -- "for something" -- I'm pretty sure that adding a humidifier to my 'wish list' on was part of what caused Amazon to start recommending Paul Stamets books to me :laugh2:)

I'd like to start using something purer than Brita-filtered water for syringes (I make a fair few of those) and to dilute IPA which as you've noted probably wouldn't require distilled.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
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Be a lot simpler to get a PC and use agar or LC instead of spores.
One purchase would provide unlimited ability to propagate mycelium.

As for IPA, methylated spirits is exact replacement, no need to mess around with dilution


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said:
Be a lot simpler to get a PC and use agar or LC instead of spores.
One purchase would provide unlimited ability to propagate mycelium.


Indeed, all of the above my good sir :cool:.  I keep busy.  My girlfriend has started calling me a 'mad scientist'.  I'm cooking agar as we speak :thumbup:

[ EDIT: In fact, FastFred's PDA recipe calls for distilled H2O.  Ding ding! ]


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