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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Isn't science a 'sub-art' of philosophy, and all of sciences results have to be introduced to philosophy and then translated to, processed by and integrate into it, as a part of the 'truth' philosophy proclaims searching for...out of 'abstract' and 'real' existences and non-existences ?
:wink: :heart: :sun:


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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Now I'm a social scientist, and I'm not totally tupid, although I once did get a social disease from a Heineken-induced stupor in which my scientific logic was superceded by engorged erectile tissue.



:eek:  :lol:

I like your posts.  :smile:


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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Senor_Hongos said:
MarkostheGnostic said:
Now I'm a social scientist, and I'm not totally tupid, although I once did get a social disease from a Heineken-induced stupor in which my scientific logic was superceded by engorged erectile tissue.



:eek:  :lol:

I like your posts.  :smile:



Sometimes you gotta just let him take the lead, no??

HOLY HELL.:what:


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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
Isn't science a 'sub-art' of philosophy, and all of sciences results have to be introduced to philosophy and then translated to, processed by and integrate into it, as a part of the 'truth' philosophy proclaims searching for...out of 'abstract' and 'real' existences and non-existences ?
:wink: :heart: :sun:



Well, science is a 'sub-art' of philosophy, since it grew out of it, and people still get Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degrees. But science has now far outgrown its parent. At my uni we have a department of philosophy, which is a small part of the faculty of art.
But we have two whole faculties of science, one for physical, and one for biological/chemical.


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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: backfromthedead]
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:lol:

yep, I got that.


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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: backfromthedead]
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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: deimya]
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deimya said:
Care to enlighten us with a candidate for a rational explanation about existence which doesn't bask in unwarranted assumptions ? Can't you smell the infatuation already ?



I don't suppose it is too surprising that someone who enjoys philosophy would post here.  I find it intriguing that so many science buffs are here when there is another forum for that.

But to answer your question, I like the Realist position.

  • There is a world of real existence, a world made up of substantial beings related to one another, which exists independently of any human opinions or desires, a world which men have not made or constructed.

  • The substances and relations that are part of this world of real existence can be known by the human mind as they are in themselves. Truth is the correspondence between mind and thing, and certitude is possible. The criterion of truth is objective evidence in whatever form it is presented to the knowing mind.

  • Such knowledge can offer sound and immutable guidance for individual and social action and is, in fact, the only reliable guide to human conduct, individual and social.



http://www.radicalacademy.com/philosophicalrealism.htm

I see no unwarranted assumptions in this position.

Or did you mean this:

Existence. That state of a being in virtue of which it is present as an actuality and not merely as a possibility, distinct from the mind and, if it be a produced being, distinct from its producing cause.


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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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The science forum is 90% questions about computers  :boring:


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You know... I'm not a blind man
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Re: What is the difference between science and philosophy? [Re: zouden]
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:lol:

Thanks, that explains everything.  I haven't peeked in there yet because I thought it would be all arguments about evolution.  I've seen enough of those to last me a lifetime.


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