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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: PsychedelicSpirit]
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Because if you control what a population are addicted to, you control the population.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Psilly Billy]
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lol people are dumb just take a look at them.

I don't want drugs to be legal maybe apart from weed. I don't want everyone tripping and shit. First because dumb+dr00gz=dangerous and second I'd rather have acid n such remain underground and for those who truly seek them.

The thing to do would be to remove any penalties for production, possession and selling but still not make it widely available to the masses.

Also this poll FAILS :facepalm:


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: mellowparty]
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dumb+dr00gz=dangerous

So funding terrorists and violent drug cartels through the enormous profit motive created by prohibition is smart?

Adults have a right to make stupid decisions. What fails is telling people what they can put in their own body.

Talk about dumb... :flowstone:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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I was referring to people who make drugs that are not related to terrorists. Do talibans cook acid?


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: mellowparty]
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I don't know what you're saying then, other than you think you have the right to tell others what they can't put in their body.

As for the Taliban, much of their funding comes from the fact that heroin is illegal. If you could buy it at the grocery store, violent drug crime would end overnight because it would not be profitable.

Notice how there are no violent alcohol cartels in Mexico. They all went broke when alcohol prohibition ended.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Didn't they do something like that in Portugal?


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: mellowparty]
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Yes.

And you know what happened? Drug use went DOWN. Addicts who used to live a miserable life anchored to drugs finally felt comfortable going to the authorities for help because they know that instead of getting locked up, they'll get sent to a doctor.

Prohibition is counter-productive. EVERYTHING points to that. It's absurd to close your eyes to the hard facts and continue to ruin lives, tear families apart, and overfill jails with non-violent drug users who just want to be left alone.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Criminalization of drugs is supporting armed criminals more than it is protecting society.


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Re: Drug Poll [Re: im_on_a_boat]
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drkrobotnik said:
god didn't make meth.


depends on what your idea of "god" is


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Re: Drug Poll [Re: im_on_a_boat]
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drkrobotnik said:
god didn't make meth.


Yeah he did. Man just discovered it.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Chubba]
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Chubba said:
Meth use can't be regulated.

It just would never work.


Yeah cuz meths bad mmmkay. Anyone whos seen faces of meth knows that. Pull your fuckin head outta your hole and start thinking for yourself. Meth is just a psychoactive substance, whether it is good or bad depends entirely on how its used.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: CrimpJiggler]
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Tax and REGULATE, you now, the things that we should do to oil companies. The differance between drugs and guns? With the exeption of a few, most mainstream drugs are easilly producible. People don't get that though. Noone has any eye for variables or nuance of situation. Heavy handed tactics like illegality don't work for plants, or things you can make from them with high school chemestry. I dunno, pcp and stuff, I can't judge. Moderation. If I judges like that, my alcoholic friend would make me anting alcohol illegal. They need better addiction treatments here


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: trepanib]
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trepanib said:
Omni said:
Please lets not compare alcohol to heroin and methamphetamine. There is no comparison.

And people are going to do drugs whether they are legal or not, that's just how I feel about the situation.


QFT


:strokebeard2:lots of typical idiots cant regulate drugs in their body systems therefore others need to regulate it for them.
thats just the way ive always seen it

i think its fair the way things currently are, until people start getting smarter

Edited by Muufokfok (09/23/11 12:05 PM)

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Muufokfok]
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Please lets not compare alcohol to heroin and methamphetamine. There is no comparison.
I've seen done, coke, and alcohol addicts. Alcohol is probably more scairy to me then those things, to an extent. It's way stronget then coke, or adderal, or vivance, in the opposite direction. You need a strong constitution for such things, Americans and modern people don't, they just want escape with no respect


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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Notwoodyallen said:
With the exeption of a few, most mainstream drugs are easilly producible. People don't get that though.


Made from what?

mellowparty said:
lol people are dumb just take a look at them.

I don't want drugs to be legal maybe apart from weed. I don't want everyone tripping and shit. First because dumb+dr00gz=dangerous and second I'd rather have acid n such remain underground and for those who truly seek them.



Yes, you are retarded and should probably stay away from drugs but that does not mean that intelligent and sensible people should be prohibited from legally obtaining psychoactive substances.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: CrimpJiggler]
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:lolsy: you hear that mellowparty!

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Beanhead]
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Made from what?
Biggest drugs are alcohol, tobacco, and weed, all super old. Mushrooms can be grown, and they take the shit outa LSD and the other drugs there. Then there is DMT, that comes from plants, and Salvia is a plant, cocaine, heroin: coca, poppies.

LSD and things like that take a lab, but the other four there are more then enough to be happy with, considering many stay plenty fucked on just booze


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Notwoodyallen] * 1
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As long as you are not hurting another person, what you do in your home should be up to you!

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Freedom requires the choice to make dumb decisions for yourself. or not.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: rainx] * 1
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rainx said:
As long as you are not hurting another person, what you do in your home should be up to you!

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Freedom requires the choice to make dumb decisions for yourself. or not.


Well said. That pretty much sums up my views on right and wrong. If you're not harming anyone else then theres nothing wrong with what you're doing. If you are then the matter becomes more complicated (the algorithm branches out). For example when I was younger I snuck out at 1 in the morning and hung around with my friends until about 5 in the morning then snuck back in only to find my mother sitting on the couch worrying about me. By going out I harmed my mother but this depends largely on my mothers perspective. For example lets say I just don't like Chinese people. Just seeing them hurts me because I'm a racist bastard. Are Chinese people harming me by existing? Yes but in this case, its my fault. Ultimately I'm harming myself by holding a belief that allows me to be harmed like that. If I just change my beliefs so that I'm not a racist bastard then I can live happily in the presence of Chinese people.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: CrimpJiggler]
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I dunno guys... some drugs should be made illegal and other "drugs" should not be illegal. It probably sounds cliche but, if God made it... it's not a drug. He created it and placed it on earth for the use of mankind. Things like herb and mushrooms are not drugs... they provide a deep relaxation and/or expansion of the mind - to think in ways and to see things how they would not have been otherwise seen. You get a different view of your life when looking at it thru a 3rd person perspective. Real drugs are things like coke, meth, and heroin... even liquor. And yes, regrettably I used to do them all. But the difference is, these drugs are synthesized by man to do one thing - f you up - both short and long term. That's not how God wants us to be. Happy... yes. Wasted and non-functional... no. I've never seen a heroin tree or a crack bush.. I know most people here will probably disagree with me and that's OK.  But, I know that my wife and kids notice a HUGE difference since I quit drinking and drugs... and I wouldn't have my home any other way. :heart:


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