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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: nateg37]
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nateg37 said:
I dunno guys... some drugs should be made illegal and other "drugs" should not be illegal. It probably sounds cliche but, if God made it... it's not a drug. He created it and placed it on earth for the use of mankind. Things like herb and mushrooms are not drugs... they provide a deep relaxation and/or expansion of the mind - to think in ways and to see things how they would not have been otherwise seen. You get a different view of your life when looking at it thru a 3rd person perspective. Real drugs are things like coke, meth, and heroin... even liquor. And yes, regrettably I used to do them all. But the difference is, these drugs are synthesized by man to do one thing - f you up - both short and long term. That's not how God wants us to be. Happy... yes. Wasted and non-functional... no. I've never seen a heroin tree or a crack bush.. I know most people here will probably disagree with me and that's OK.  But, I know that my wife and kids notice a HUGE difference since I quit drinking and drugs... and I wouldn't have my home any other way. :heart:


:facepalm:

Have you not heard of the opium poppy or coca leaves?


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Robo]
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Ombient said:
Notwoodyallen said:
Please lets not compare alcohol to heroin and methamphetamine. There is no comparison.
I've seen done, coke, and alcohol addicts. Alcohol is probably more scairy to me then those things, to an extent. It's way stronget then coke, or adderal, or vivance, in the opposite direction. You need a strong constitution for such things, Americans and modern people don't, they just want escape with no respect


Wow this thread is old. I don't remember posting half this stuff. I still don't think alcohol is as bad though. :grin:

But yeah, my uncle drank himself to death so I know it can be shitty dude. No arguing that. It just doesn't creep me out, and send up red flags like hard opiates, for example. But I can understand for some people, it can be worse. I've never been that into drinking, so what do I know?

Now that I think about it, more people probably die from being drunk and stupid, than shooting dope...anyway.


Alcohol damages literally every single organ in the human body, while heroin is virtually harmless physically on its own.

Alcohol is definitely a "hard" drug no matter how you look at it.


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Edited by PsychedelicSpirit (01/11/12 01:08 PM)

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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whats wrong with you guys?
shroomites for legalization?

have you all lost your mind :shocked:


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16182497 
[quote]AllGreyThumbs said:
Damn it, they really have to stop calling things LSD that aren't really LSD.  That goes for dealers, police, and the media.  Stop it, stop it, stop it.  It makes the real LSD look bad.[/quote]

Edited by jebre (05/15/12 07:05 AM)

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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WARNING!
The last post in this topic is more than 30 days old! (exactly 36 days)
Please only post a reply if it is truly relevant!!


Tsk. Of course it's relevant Mr Bot.

There are no rules! Then there are some who say there is only rule. And some who say there are a few, but not any of those, but some of these....

And the balance is complete.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Tetragammatron]
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really shroomery? Meth, heroine and crack should be legalized? Don't you guys think you're being a bit extreme?

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: freedomfighter91] * 1
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No. Enjoy your first rating:cookiemonster:

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Dorian Gray] * 1
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also, nice username. freedomfighter, LOL

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Robo]
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Ombient said:
Please lets not compare alcohol to heroin and methamphetamine. There is no comparison.

And people are going to do drugs whether they are legal or not, that's just how I feel about the situation.


yep, making something illegal is just going to turn the user into a criminal problem rather than a medical problem, which is guaranteed to help ruin every users life even more.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: playn4keeps]
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playn4keeps said:
I Think everything should be decriminalized and substances with no practical use or health benefit should be regulated


that makes no fucking sense dude. At all. Man where do some of you come up with this crap?


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: freedomfighter91] * 2
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really shroomery? Meth, heroine and crack should be legalized? Don't you guys think you're being a bit extreme?

Why not? Oh, riiiggghhhttt. The drugs YOU like are good. The ones I like are bad. Got it.

I saw a news clip not long ago of George Bush exhibiting deep ignorance and hypocrisy. He was talking with some senators drinking alcohol and smoking nicotine while discussing the finer evils of cannabis and debating the best ways to increase capture and incarceration rates of pot heads. :flowstone:

Freedom fighter? Not.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid] * 1
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I think all drugs should be legal and easily available at Wal-Mart.
That way, the FDA can hopefully weed out impurities and make using certain harmful drugs safer to use.


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You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Rydrallen]
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Rydrallen said:
usefulidiot13 said:
they wouldnt have to turn to crime if they could get it legally....

derrrrr


Unless they had no money other than that which they stole.

derrrr.

You seem to be missing out that im talking about the kind of fucked up junkies that cant hold down a job for obvious reasons.

derrrr.

and thus turn to crime to get their fix, whilst fucking up other people

derrr.

and neglecting their children or giving them methadone

derrr.

Yes this shit does happen. Its not propaganda. It happens in my city. A lot.

Naieve moron.


Don't you realize that the black market drives prices to an insane premium.  Legalization would reduce the cost of drugs.  Systems could be put in place to help the very worst addicts who are scared of persecution if they seek help on their own.

People would still be punished for hurting others.  Sorry if that's not good enough.  People who turn to crime to sustain their habit are usually not bad people and if given the opportunity they will oftentimes go to treatment.  If the cost of a gram of heroin dropped from 80-150 dollars to 10 bucks then people who didn't want to quit could still live well and be productive.  Look at all the functioning alcoholics there are.  Alcoholics don't commit crime to support their habit nearly as often as a heroin or cocaine addict will.  That's because they can dig change from out of their couch and walk to any nearby store and by it without being labeled a criminal.  Meanwhile the heroin addict can't even buy or posses needles without being a criminal.  Because in America the mentality is "if we make it illegal then the problem magically disappears". 

Prohibition doesn't work.  It's not meant to.  The only reason it exists at all is to benefit police, gangs, government, cartels, and big pharma.  That's why nearly every drug that is illegal in the US is cheaper and more plentiful by a wide margin compared to when the "War on Drugs" began.


Also, you seem to think that a heroin addict couldn't hold a job.  That's bullshit.  If the cost of drugs fell by a large margin addicts would be able to be a productive member of society.  Because instead of needing most of the day to acquire the insane amount of money they need to get well they could maintain there habit as a part of their regular income the way alcoholics do.  You've seen too many movies that portray heroin addicts as zombies that can't get off the couch. 

And while that's true when large doses are consumed it isn't true when moderate doses are consumed. 

Just look at all the people on prescription opiates who live normal lives.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
really shroomery? Meth, heroine and crack should be legalized? Don't you guys think you're being a bit extreme?

Why not? Oh, riiiggghhhttt. The drugs YOU like are good. The ones I like are bad. Got it.

I saw a news clip not long ago of George Bush exhibiting deep ignorance and hypocrisy. He was talking with some senators drinking alcohol and smoking nicotine while discussing the finer evils of cannabis and debating the best ways to increase capture and incarceration rates of pot heads. :flowstone:

Freedom fighter? Not.



Welcome to the shroomery bro, the golden age of double standards, and upitty hipsters

:puke:


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: amilibertine] * 1
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and well said amili, I was a functioning heroin addict for a year, held my job and all of that. The price of heroin here is 400 dollars a gram. Impossible to upkeep, and once I lost my job because of my DUI, I was forced to quit. Alcohol has gotten me in far more trouble than doing heroin ever did.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Enjoywho]
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Alcohol, benzos, opiates, psychedelics, etc. should all be legal. Cocaine should be sold just like alcohol, opiates/speed/benzos should be available through clinics for addicts. I don't think having heroin at the store is a good thing, but it's not criminal either. It's a public health issue.


Then again, that allows for criminals to sell their shit, so it should be available to those 21 and older.


Education is how we get addiction and death to drop. Not bullshit laws.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid] * 1
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Voted A.

I think you should earn your level of drug use. If you want to use drugs legally, take a course that certifies you to be in possession of it. If you fuck up on that drug (like get in an accident drunk), your status for using that drug will be revoked with harsher penalties for using while it is revoked.

I like could think of many ways to fill a short course with all kinds of useful information about any drug. If a guy takes a course allowing him to be in possession of PCP, and uses it responsibly, good for him!


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Mickalopagus]
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btw wtf poll invalid no STAL


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Mickalopagus]
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I don't want a bunch of heroin or meth addicts running around town where my future kids will be raised, despite whether or not they shoot up or only get at home. so WITHOUT EXCEPTION, of course some drugs should be illegal. I believe that consenting adults do and will do what they want at home, but surely one thing leads to another. Can you imagine a legitimate legal market for Heroin or Methamphetamine, and how that would affect the behavior of society? Are you nuts? Do you think that people would even shoot up and stay home, imagine somebody who smokes cigarettes shoots up and runs out of cigarettes.

This is ridiculous.

edit-- old thread...:/


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Wimy] * 11
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I don't want a bunch of heroin or meth addicts running around town where my future kids will be raised

Hello? They ALREADY run around town where your future kids will be raised. The only difference is that now they're broke because illegal drugs are way more expensive than legal ones. So they're more likely to mug you for their $500 fix than if they could go get it for $20 at the 7-11 on the corner. Is there an illegal alcohol dealer problem in your city? Prohibition hasn't stopped drugs and never will any more than it stopped alcohol.

You know what else is running around town where your future kids will be raised? That's right, drug dealers and gang bangers who exist only because illegal drugs are such a profitable business. Legalize drugs, and the dealers and gang are bankrupt tomorrow. And while the 7-11 will card your kids if they try to buy smack, the drug dealer will not. Which do you prefer?

Open your eyes and learn to think, then tell me again which world you want your kids to grows up in?

Jezus, humans are such a depressing non-thinking species. We were smarter as apes.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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I've been smoking cigarettes since I was 14.. never tried/seen heroin.
I still think the hard drugs should be eliminated, not regulated. Especially not made more readily available despite where you live, which I happened to be born into an upper class area, where gangbangers are not prominent.
all for the decriminalization of pot and shrooms, though.


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