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igCorcaigh



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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno] 1
#16662126 - 08/07/12 05:58 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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keeno said: also I think that people who have tried drugs are the only people qualified to talk about them surely?
we don't want some brainwashed religious fanatic to make decisions based on some skewed misinterpretation of an ancient book or someone who stands to gain cash from keeping the status quo and keeping people ignorant
Yeah, I would respect this opinion.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno]
#16662193 - 08/07/12 06:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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weiliiinmyyard said: That's what they always said... That if they had brown chunks in them that's a smack based roll. Whatever it was, there was clearly a difference between coke/meth based rolls and those
Anyway. Said my piece. To each his own 
It's really not a "to each his own" type thing. Smack based rolls don't exist. You are just parroting the misinformation you were fed.
You are a self-righteous asshole for wanting to lock people in prison because they used heroin. Do you realize that heroin is no more dangerous than any other opiate? Should morphine be illegal too?
Forget the rolls. Obviously you didn't read the end of my postQuote:
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weiliiinmyyard said: I think we can all agree on one thing though. The punishments are too harsh and ineffective at solving the problem. There needs to be a change. Where I live the minimum sentence for your third misdemeanor pot charge is 10 years, and almost all of the prisons are privately owned corporations. Drug users and private prisons create a lot of revenue. Rather than rehabilitation programs they choose to end your life. That is fucked up. And many people get stuck in a cycle of never changing once their life has been ruined, they have nothing to aspire to be other than a drug addict.
I think it's very immature that you have to resort to name calling, maybe you just can't comprehend my stance here. I don't know for sure that the rolls had heroin in them. I don't think that's very important, and I think that it's clear that you are trying to pick one insignificant thing that I said to discredit my whole opinion, when this thread is clearly about stating, defending, and discussing your opinion on drug prohibition. If you could read and comprehend you would see that I don't really know for sure what's best. I have some opinions, but like I said I wouldn't leave it up to me. Your argument is weak. You're clearly not very intelligent.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno] 1
#16662364 - 08/07/12 06:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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keeno said: also I think that people who have tried drugs are the only people qualified to talk about them surely?
we don't want some brainwashed religious fanatic to make decisions based on some skewed misinterpretation of an ancient book or someone who stands to gain cash from keeping the status quo and keeping people ignorant
Tried and studied ideally, but yeah, even the so-called experts that are always quoted in media articles can't even get basic facts right a lot of the time. It's really frustrating.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: jizmaster]
#16662556 - 08/07/12 07:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah healthcare specialists and research scientists have to be involved in the discussion without doubt
unfortunately when they come up with opinions that politicians don't like they get discredited and fired haha
fucking world we live in eh? if the aliens come they'll deffo not understand our bullshit, lets hope they like our art, or else we're doomed!
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#16662609 - 08/07/12 07:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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igCorcaigh



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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: igCorcaigh] 1
#16662694 - 08/07/12 07:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like this debate, but I think the findings here could be applied across the social spectrum. As I stated previously, my experience is that most social issues are not tackled by the people who are intimately experienced with the issues.
So, I think the drugs debate also has parallels with other issues in society, i.e. that the people most affected are dependant on legislation decided upon by croney dingbats.
Let the people directly involved in these issues, whether it be drugs, prostitution, crime, or whatever, become the determiners of the legislation, and let the politicians and media hawks go back to having suburban barbecues and whatever self righteous wankery they do best.
Peace.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno]
#16663090 - 08/07/12 08:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the poll is too limiting for such a complex subject. I personally think Scopolamine and GHB should be heavily controlled, because they can be used as weapons.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore]
#16663185 - 08/07/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vore said: I think the poll is too limiting for such a complex subject. I personally think Scopolamine and GHB should be heavily controlled, because they can be used as weapons.
I agree actually.
Also, guns are designed for killing others, mostly.
Guns and nuclear weapons should be banned. And no, I'm not being sarcastic here, I'm actually quite serious.
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Oh, chlorine gas as well. Nasty shit that is.
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My local Scopolamine shop was doing such good business until the pigs got involved...
Sorry, sarcasm aside, I think the point is that stupid drugs will die out as soon as better ones become available.
Some of my friends in school used to sniff solvents, all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
If only they had a nice bit of weed, they could still be with us. Oh well...
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igCorcaigh said: Oh, chlorine gas as well. Nasty shit that is.
I think I inhaled some of that shit while swimming in my pool once. Damn near choked to death.
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I don't think guns should be banned. Hitler took the guns from the Jews and they complied. Didn't work out so well for them.
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igCorcaigh said: My local Scopolamine shop was doing such good business until the pigs got involved...
I doubt nerve gas is a big seller either, but let's look at the damage that can cause:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway
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igCorcaigh said: Oh, chlorine gas as well. Nasty shit that is.
I think I inhaled some of that shit while swimming in my pool once. Damn near choked to death.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore]
#16663277 - 08/07/12 08:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ha! Moderation my friend, moderation.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore]
#16663957 - 08/08/12 12:22 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vore said: I think the poll is too limiting for such a complex subject. I personally think Scopolamine and GHB should be heavily controlled, because they can be used as weapons.
how can ghb be used as a weapon?
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: PLOWTO]
#16663968 - 08/08/12 12:24 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Immobilizing victims, making them easy prey for mugging and rape.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore]
#16663994 - 08/08/12 12:30 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still whoever uses such a thing in that way should be penalized for that crime. Outlawing it has shown us its not working.
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Vore

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Prohibition doesn't end usage, it reduces it; and only if the substance is not mainstream (alcohol, weed, etc.).
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore] 1
#16664009 - 08/08/12 12:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Source? Many pieces of information in this very thread would suggest that prohibition makes everything worse. Dont ignore it.
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