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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
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Look back in the days when you could buy herion over the counter at the pharmacy... less abused then because it was used as a medicine.... now days everyone just wants to see if they can get high off it-- im not surprised if a few members of this forum haven't shit in a ziplock back and huffed it for awhile looking for a buzz....  :projectile:


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: op2kal]
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DeadHearts said:
And removing these two drugs would not put and end to rape.


Don't have to tell me.  Vore knows this too, but his argument is that if drugs like GHB were legal for adults to obtain then more rape would occur because such drugs can be used as tools to facilitate rape.

op2kal said:
Look back in the days when you could buy herion over the counter at the pharmacy... less abused then because it was used as a medicine.... now days everyone just wants to see if they can get high off it-- im not surprised if a few members of this forum haven't shit in a ziplock back and huffed it for awhile looking for a buzz....  :projectile:


So, what's your stance on drug legality?


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: MorphinTime]
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I say open it up and make everything legal-- let the retards be retards and kill there brain cells.... if we had proper information besides "drugs are bad" there probably wouldn't be as many people using fucked up drugs lol If someone is doing something stupid in public obviously there being a nuisance and should be punished for it... I forgot where it is i'll have to look it up again= they made drugs decriminalized if you were caught with them you could either A. Pay a fine or B. go to support classes to get off 'em. They found there were less AIDS being spread through IV drug use wich imo decreased the actual amount of users...

Weed not being legal drives a ton of peeps into harder shit imo....


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: MorphinTime]
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MorphinTime said:
Don't have to tell me.  Vore knows this too, but his argument is that if drugs like GHB were legal for adults to obtain then more rape would occur because such drugs can be used as tools to facilitate rape.





Oh I havent been in this thread in a while I thought that was your argument. I retract. But ya thats dumb :lol:

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: op2kal]
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op2kal said:
If someone is doing something stupid in public obviously there being a nuisance and should be punished for it... I forgot where it is i'll have to look it up again= they made drugs decriminalized if you were caught with them you could either A. Pay a fine or B. go to support classes to get off 'em. They found there were less AIDS being spread through IV drug use wich imo decreased the actual amount of users...



You may be talking about Portugal.  Diploid provided some good points about Portugal's decriminalization policy earlier in the thread if you wish to go back and look.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Vore]
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Yes. I'd ballpark 500 cases of rape in the US a year, but because this subject is hard to track in terms of hard evidence its hard to pinpoint figures.


Throwing around random numbers does not add validity to your argument.

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I think many would-be rapist don't rape because they're scared of a lot of things. In this case it would be fear of obtaining an illegal drug, difficulty in obtaining an illegal drug, added dangers in obtaining an illegal drug, added time in obtaining an illegal drug, additional effort to obtain an illegal drug, and other shit I'm too limited to think about.



Why would someone be too scared to obtain an illegal drug yet not scared of the potential consequences of raping somebody? As for your other points if GHB were legal and distributed by the government it would be much easier to track down these drug aided rapists and lock them up. :shrug:

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: birdland]
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Drugs being illegal has REALLY kept me from doing them, how about you guys.  But then, it's different with me.  I can handle them.  It's all those other people who will mess up their lives.

Drug laws work so well I can't imagine why anyone would want to make drugs legal.  Then they would be more avaiable.  After all, interdiction reduces the supply by as much as 15% or 20%.  That's working, right?


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It's all mythology...

Edited by Old Pokey (10/03/12 04:31 PM)

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Old Pokey]
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errrr... sarcasm?

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno] * 1
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I hope so.


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Old Pokey]
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Old Pokey said:
Drugs being illegal has REALLY kept me from doing them, how about you guys.  But then, it's different with me.  I can handle them.  It's all those other people who will mess up their lives.

Drug laws work so well I can't imagine why anyone would want to make drugs legal.  Then they would be more avaiable.  After all, interdiction reduces the supply by as much as 15% or 20%.  That's working, right?


Not at all dude, as shown in case studies such as legalization in Italy - it doesn't signifigantly increase usage.
The reasons why many people want drugs legalized is 2 part: civil rights and the very massive cost of making drugs illegal when that effort is both futile and without justification. Would you take meth if it was legal or heroin? To take that further the government is basically telling us we're too stupid to make our own decisions, so they who have plunged us into trillions of dollars in debt on top of unpopular and immoral wars... should make decisions on our personal lives?

Alcohol prohibtion started the mafia, now we have cartels, when drugs are legalized society will look back on this chapter as foolish as the alcohol prohibition.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Alcohol prohibtion started the mafia, now we have cartels, when drugs are legalized society will look back on this chapter as foolish as the alcohol prohibition.


Bingo.  It's great knowing there are other forward thinking individuals in society.  This era of time will look no different to our future children than the slavery era of the 1800's looks to us right now.


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Manoa said:
I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

Looking for Rauhocereus riosaniensis seeds or live specimen(s), :pm: me if you have any for trade

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Re: Drug Poll [Re: im_on_a_boat]
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drkrobotnik said:
god didn't make meth.


Well if he created the universe and all that, then he created the parameters and molecular guidelines for it to exist, ergo, he created meth.


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Re: Drug Poll [Re: schwarg]
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schwarg said:
drkrobotnik said:
god didn't make meth.


Well if he created the universe and all that, then he created the parameters and molecular guidelines for it to exist, ergo, he created meth.


correct. "god" made it possible. otherwise it wouldn't exist

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Re: Drug Poll [Re: schwarg]
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Meth has been found naturally occurring in at least two plant species.

Meanwhile, MDMA and LSD which the mystic-heads love so much are entirely man-made so far as anyone knows.

This "natural vs man-made" demarcation is a fantasy born of the same ignorance as the drug war.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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I think its really ironic

I mean while some people wig out on drugs, i am fucking certain that some drugs make a psychopath more chill

tranqualizers, benzos, joints

im just sayin

(and yes i was in that 23%) ffs what if they came out with a drug that turned you into the lizard from spiderman! thats a responsible adult turning into a super villain fuck that shit

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Re: Drug Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
Meth has been found naturally occurring in at least two plant species.

Meanwhile, MDMA and LSD which the mystic-heads love so much are entirely man-made so far as anyone knows.

This "natural vs man-made" demarcation is a fantasy born of the same ignorance as the drug war.


Couldn't said it better man :super:

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Legalize Methamphetamine 


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Re: Drug Poll [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
Meth has been found naturally occurring in at least two plant species.

Meanwhile, MDMA and LSD which the mystic-heads love so much are entirely man-made so far as anyone knows.

This "natural vs man-made" demarcation is a fantasy born of the same ignorance as the drug war.


two acacia species  as i remember, one of them along with mescaline, nicotine, a shit load of beta carbolines, and a bunch of other amphetamines HAHA  TAKE THAT PRETENTIOUS AND MISINFORMED POTHEADS



also..  wtf people?  do your research on the subject of how legalization has gone for protugal and czech republic    before you hop on the "lets torture people by throwing them in a rape dungeon" train
i can't find the smiley for the king retard with lightning and shit  but just know  that the disturbing amount of people who jump on this shit because they know nothing about pharmacology or you know... history or you know the qualitative effects of legalization...


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[quote]AllGreyThumbs said:
Damn it, they really have to stop calling things LSD that aren't really LSD.  That goes for dealers, police, and the media.  Stop it, stop it, stop it.  It makes the real LSD look bad.[/quote]

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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
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LEGALIZE EVERYTHING NOWWWW


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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: jebre]
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I think all drugs should be legal for people responsible enough to use them. They should have to pay for a specific license that obligates them to certain guidelines. For instance, a tryptamine license.

Also I've seen a lot of users posting about meth, which I agree is dirty but what if it was natural?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri

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