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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Wimy] 1
#16654236 - 08/06/12 03:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another case of "my drugs are better than your drugs".
I'd say there are just as many irresponsible people that use shrooms 
I guess you think the possibility of a methhead hurting your kids is higher than that o f an uneducated goon who takes to much shrooms/acid or whatever and goes crazy and kills your kids? All drugs should be legal. But I do think drug education needs to be improved.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Wimy] 1
#16654238 - 08/06/12 03:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I still think the hard drugs should be eliminated, not regulated.
Eliminating hard drugs is an unrealistic goal. How many more billion dollars in funding would you waste on the the DEA?
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Sure, lets teach the kids all about drugs. that will really solve problems. you know what happened when my parents sent me to rehab? I met a bunch of drug dealers and we exchanged phone numbers.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Wimy] 3
#16654348 - 08/06/12 03:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Drug education =/= rehab
Oh, you met drug dealers? Really? Guess what there would be none if they regulated drugs.
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Meth... it should also be legal, with all the other drugs. If its legal that doesnt mean you have to use it. If you do use it its no big deal, im sure you've used amphetamines. Its just like a strong amphetamine, you dont HAVE to get addicted.
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Have implies choice, while I agree all drugs should be legal there is no hiding the fact that drugs like crack, meth, and heroine are extremely addicting physiologically speaking. You may try it and be fine, but that doesn't apply to everyone. Everyone's body chemistry is different, which is why drug education needs to be fixed and restructured. That way people can make more calculated decisions. That way if bobby and jimmy want to try it, they know ask the risks involved.
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DivineIntensity said: Have implies choice, while I agree all drugs should be legal there is no hiding the fact that drugs like crack, meth, and heroine are extremely addicting physiologically speaking. You may try it and be fine, but that doesn't apply to everyone. Everyone's body chemistry is different, which is why drug education needs to be fixed and restructured. That way people can make more calculated decisions. That way if bobby and jimmy want to try it, they know ask the risks involved.
Right and i have never used meth and never will, even if its legal. Only use it if you feel prepared. But also, oxycodone and xanax are both extremely addicting, so is alcohol. Its not just limited to meth crack and heroin. Xanax and alcohol withdrawal can kill.
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I read a study a while back (sorry no link) that showed nicotine to be at least as addictive as meth in animal studies.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid] 1
#16656786 - 08/06/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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DivineIntensity said: Have implies choice, while I agree all drugs should be legal there is no hiding the fact that drugs like crack, meth, and heroine are extremely addicting physiologically speaking. You may try it and be fine, but that doesn't apply to everyone. Everyone's body chemistry is different, which is why drug education needs to be fixed and restructured. That way people can make more calculated decisions. That way if bobby and jimmy want to try it, they know ask the risks involved.
Right and i have never used meth and never will, even if its legal. Only use it if you feel prepared. But also, oxycodone and xanax are both extremely addicting, so is alcohol. Its not just limited to meth crack and heroin. Xanax and alcohol withdrawal can kill.
Where did I say that they weren't addictive? Regardless of the negative or positive potential all drugs should be legal. I just feel like if people understood drugs they could determine what's okay for them and what's not.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Diploid]
#16656973 - 08/06/12 09:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diploid said: illegal drugs are way more expensive than legal ones.
Pot costs a lot less than liquor if you use everyday. A lot less.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Doc_T]
#16657133 - 08/06/12 09:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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in a totally free society, all drugs would be legal. the desire for altered states of consciousness is a universally human trait which should not be restricted/condemned in any way whatsoever.
if people got truly addicted to hard drugs like heroin/coke or whatever, the free society would have compassion for them and treat them as human beings rather than criminals. perhaps if the society was truly open-minded, we could use certain psychedelic drugs (LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline etc.) in therapeutic settings to help these people break their addictions.
but right now that's just a dream world, we're all criminals right?
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Pot costs a lot less than liquor if you use everyday. A lot less.
I dunno, cask wine is pretty damn cheap
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Doc_T]
#16658591 - 08/07/12 03:27 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I reckon pot's cheaper because the process of manufacturer is simpler. essentially you plant a seed, and harvest (of course, you can soup it up, but that's the basics) also the next generation of harvest is there for free (take a cutting or two)
booze you need to plant the seed, harvest, mix with other stuff, store for a period of time, possibly filter and test, bottle and distribute heavier more cumbersome goods. the next generation of seed must then be bought in as you've used the original grains to make into the product...
and just to wade into the argument, I think all drugs should be legal. I do think more people will become addicts for a time, but the money saved on not having to police the meth/ crack/ smack heads crimes, and loss of property would more than cover the price of education and rehabilitation
an old study in the UK suggests £14bn could be saved a year
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/apr/07/drugs-policy-legalisation-report
just think how much that would be in the States! but I think it's pretty obvious the governments aren't interested, they like the poor poor and fighting themselves, otherwise why would they have introduced crack into the poor neighbourhoods? or am I just being naive here? how much pressure does the privatised prison services put on the government, to keep them filled and their profits high?
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Wimy]
#16658892 - 08/07/12 06:14 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diploid said: my future kids
Diploid makes a great point. But do you know what else is a threat to your future kids? Let's say your future kids make the unfortunate mistake of trying heroin. Then let's say they get busted with heroin. What kind of a career will your future kids have with a heroin arrest on their permanent record? A shitty one. All because it was illegal and they got caught.
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Learyfan] 1
#16658976 - 08/07/12 06:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diploid said: my future kids
Diploid makes a great point. But do you know what else is a threat to your future kids? Let's say your future kids make the unfortunate mistake of trying heroin. Then let's say they get busted with heroin. What kind of a career will your future kids have with a heroin arrest on their permanent record? A shitty one. All because it was illegal and they got caught.
and say they get into heroin, find that it helps them out/ they enjoy it and they think they can handle it, then they're not sure that they can, but because it's illegal don't know where to turn to for help because they think they'll get busted?
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: keeno]
#16659079 - 08/07/12 07:27 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who's the dopes that actually think some drugs should be legal?
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Re: Drug Legality Poll [Re: Abuse]
#16659285 - 08/07/12 08:25 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you.
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