MXNR said:

Except that you would directly be contributing to global overpopulation, which is already a very big problem.

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Paradigm said:

lwo said:

Not having kids/not getting married is the SELFISH thing to do

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Fuck that.  The world doesn't need EVERYONE to have kids.  I've met many people who definitely SHOULD NOT be parents.  Yet many of them are anyway.

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lwo, have you considered how many single adults give of themselves through community and charitable volunteer work and in clubs and groups? It would be selfish to get married to someone you didn't love just to be married. A single person can share and give of themselves and their love with lots of people and contribute in many ways.

Single people are also teachers, coaches, aunts and uncles and help a lot with the rearing of the worlds children. They can be very giving of themselves and their time to help out parents.

The world benefits a lot form single childless people being in it IMHO.

Just wanted to give some other considerations.

Em, I think some go into it selfishly. I think bringing new life into the world should be a well thought out choice and either way, once it happens, you HAVE to GIVE, those little ones demand and require so much. It's a very giving commitment to make.

Some parents don;t give a shit, some give the bare minimum to get by, some give a good amount and some go that extra mile to make a difference in a child's life that will bring new life into this world that makes a difference many benefit from.

Some bodies child discovered penicillin. Somebodies child brought peace to a region.  Somebodies child helped others out of abusive situations or poverty. Some bodies child, did something nice for you in your life time and you'll never forget them. When we bring new life into this world, who knows what they will bring to the world. Some bring good things, some not and a lot of that depends on how much the parents put into the thought to have one and raising them.

If you decide to do it, do your best to realize what a commitment to giving it is and the contribution to this world you are making.

Some people contributed the nightmare of Jeffrey Dahmer and Bin Laden to name a few.

Before you go into it, think about how you are going to raise a child that gives and contributes to the positive of the planet and making it a better place for everyone to be in. Usually those people had some adult in their life who showed them how to do that in their own way through their actions.

It's a Huge decision. It's nice to see the thought you are putting into it Em.

Icelander said:

I still disagree. Besides putting yourself first, for a healthy example for a child you would have to make your relationship to your partner number one.

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Icelander said:

Couldn't disagree more. Although I hear your point. Many of the emotional problems children have that become their adult sufferings stem IMO from a poor relationship between the parents. The love and honesty and caring between them needs to be at an all time high and a number one priority, so the emotional and physical needs of the child can be met. If you have a deeply connected and loving relationship with your partner taking care of all of the infants needs will be a team effort and will be accomplished. To prioritize your primary relationship does not come at any cost to the infants physical needs. You might be misunderstanding me. I'm saying a tight relationship between the parents insures that a child gets to see lots of solid love in his or her world and honesty and integrity. The parents work as a team to care for and love the child.

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