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OfflineAdamist
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SELFish?
    #1668562 - 06/28/03 03:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I often ask myself how I can help others if I don't first help myself.

Is this 'selfish'?


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Adamist]
    #1668606 - 06/28/03 04:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think the Buddha had a good answer to this in the Chavalata Sutta:

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Monks, these four types of individuals are to be found existing in the world. Which four? The one who practices neither for his/her own benefit nor for that of others. The one who practices for the benefit of others but not for his/her own. The one who practices for his/her own benefit but not for that of others. The one who practices for his/her own benefit and for that of others.

Just as a firebrand from a funeral pyre -- burning at both ends, covered with excrement in the middle -- is used as fuel neither in a village nor in the wilderness: I tell you that this is a simile for the individual who practices neither for his/her own benefit nor for that of others. The individual who practices for the benefit of others but not for his/her own is the higher & more refined of these two. The individual who practices for his/her own benefit but not for that of others is the highest & most refined of these three. The individual who practices for his/her own benefit and for that of others is, of these four, the foremost, the chief, the most outstanding, the highest, & supreme. Just as from a cow comes milk; from milk, curds; from curds, butter; from butter, ghee; from ghee, the skimmings of ghee; and of these, the skimmings of ghee are reckoned the foremost -- in the same way, of these four, the individual who practices for his/her own benefit and for that of other is the foremost, the chief, the most outstanding, the highest, & supreme.

These are the four types of individuals to be found existing in the world.






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Re: SELFish? [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1668617 - 06/28/03 04:34 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent answer, thanks!  :laugh: 


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Adamist]
    #1669093 - 06/28/03 11:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There is nothing wrong with helping yourself first.  Altruism starts with yourself and how you view your reality.  So naturally you need to help yourself first.  :smile:

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Re: SELFish? [Re: Adamist]
    #1669183 - 06/28/03 12:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

unfortunately our politicians haven't figured out that its probably best to fix one's self before one tries to fix others..


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1669208 - 06/28/03 12:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Amen.


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1669218 - 06/28/03 12:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

"IN the threat of loss of cabin pressure, PUt on your mask before putting on the passenger's next to you"


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1669647 - 06/28/03 04:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

One must heal internally before they can hope to heal externally.


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Re: SELFish? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1669665 - 06/28/03 04:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah you said it even better :smile:


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