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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Motion as an illusion/Is motion relative or absolute? [Re: Diploid]
    #4884034 - 11/02/05 11:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Very true, diploid, but as I'm sure you are well aware theory is not reality - merely our current best estimation of how reality "works" :wink:

Thus while QM theory may not be able to handle spans of time shorter than the Planck time, it doesn't indicate that time doesn't exist beyond such limits.

Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Motion as an illusion/Is motion relative or absolute? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4886428 - 11/03/05 08:35 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)


BlueCoyote said:
huh ? We don't need Einstein for this question.
As in Newtons physics, the force you relay on is called impulse.
It counts for standing 'timeframes' and is a vector, added to the object, like someone said here, it's like the speed, only invisible.

I was going to post that. What you are describing is a vector. And A*x = B*x, x cannot be zero, as you cant have 0/0 when you divide the x out, that is a limitation of the algebra and there is no contradiction.
Science hasnt ignored time, I have no idea what you mean. The first derivative probably ever done, had 'dt' term in it. Time accounts for basically everything in physics. Doing an experiment monday vs friday is meaningless, the experiments would be the same.

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Re: Motion as an illusion/Is motion relative or absolute? [Re: TheCow]
    #4887347 - 11/03/05 04:15 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

First off, I'll admit that I'm not well versed in time-theory, so forgive me if I bullshit a bit...

Yes, as was said above, time is an increment from point A to point B. The only way for time to exist (relatively) is for things to change/move.

Even if you draw a point with a pencil, or a needle, or the tiniest of electron micrsopes, that point still has measurable dimensions. Even the plank constant is not a singularity. The world does not exist in whole number ratios of the plank constant (i could be wrong about this, I'm really just be making an assumption).

so to say a POINT IN TIME means that there is a determinable measurement in which things are changing. Time is defined by change. To say that things are not moving at all is to say that there IS no time at that "moment".

Unless of course the world exists like a movie reel, and each quantum hop-and-pop of subatomic particles is like a single frame. And then the real mystery of time is HOW one frame moves onto the next and if each frame exists independently from all others.

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