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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
Russia's Yandex bot traffic nearly eliminated overnight after Ukraine drone strikes cripple multiple of 'Russia's Google' data centers — Ukraine intensifies bombing of Yandex data centers in response to Moscow’s strikes on Kyiv data centers

its funny, I've noticed the traffic on /r/conservative was way off for the past few days.  some of the usual insane-take accounts I'm accustomed to seeing there haven't been posting.  we're unlikely to ever find out whether thats due to bot infrastructure being taken offline or other factors, but last time russia's ability to bot was impacted, everyone noticed a quantifiable reduction in traffic from some real suspicious "influencer" accounts. (lots of "conservative American white mom" type accounts went dark and were later found to be registered from russia).



Indeed, paid shills & AI-/-'bots' are one the ways in which that 'the bear' favors as a measure to 'poke' us `Mericans to perpetuate nonsense and amplify the sounds of extremists.  Misleading all.  Its like going into a crowd of people and casting a spell of 'self confusion' upon everybody within a certain radius to the caster.  Propaganda - 'dem tactics, mannn.

That goes for most countries that the U.S. manages to piss off enough too - and in  more than just one way. Obviously.  Its easier to 'control' (manipulate towards a certain directions / trajectory of one's ways of thinking about other things and so on) 'hearts & minds' via the informational age's ways than it is to do so via the industrial age's ways -- though they both depend upon one another to various extents and in an assortment of various different ways at that, too.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
this yandex outage is really something.  its CRAZY how much the narrative online has changed while russians disinformation/botting infrastructure is offline/heavily degraded.  we all knew russia was active in right wing online propaganda but the stark drop off in crazy shit is astounding.



I do wonder if crypto could have been effected?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly] * 1
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Hmmm. :strokebeard:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
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The Blind Ass said:
Hmmm. :strokebeard:



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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: mushboy] * 2
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:whathesaid:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
Trump is threatening to pull Intel and some other shit from Ukraine after they destroyed a bot farm in russia. He's pissed that a chunk of his online support got blown up.



You should be pissed too our tax dallors probably paid for the data center too.



I'm quite happy there are noticably less bots on social media.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly] * 1
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sudly said:
dinosaurs said:
this yandex outage is really something.  its CRAZY how much the narrative online has changed while russians disinformation/botting infrastructure is offline/heavily degraded.  we all knew russia was active in right wing online propaganda but the stark drop off in crazy shit is astounding.



I do wonder if crypto could have been effected?




God I hope that's true.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Yeah that's a whole lot of bullcrap and not how crypto works. Still though goodriddance.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Dekozn]
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If its on a hard drive and the hard drive is destroyed, how do you recover the crypto?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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crypto is a decentralized currency

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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Well it's not actually on the harddrive, you can store the keys on a hardrive. Emphasis on can.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Dekozn]
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Well, trump seems either upset his online support has dropped and or some crypto keys :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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I'm just commenting on the crypto claim.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly] * 1
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sudly said:
Well, trump seems either upset his online support has dropped and or some crypto keys :shrug:



I wont give the site enough traffic to personally verify but i saw that with the russian bots knocked offline temporarily, trump had a truth social post today that got only 12k likes (he has 12 million "followers") and all of the top comments were shitting on him. 

it wont last long but its really really interesting to see how much vitriolic trash has been coming out of those russian data centers.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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It feels pretty weird not seeing as much garbage:lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: trepanationexprt]
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Really begs the question of how many bots meta allows..





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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
sudly said:
Well, trump seems either upset his online support has dropped and or some crypto keys :shrug:



I wont give the site enough traffic to personally verify but i saw that with the russian bots knocked offline temporarily, trump had a truth social post today that got only 12k likes (he has 12 million "followers") and all of the top comments were shitting on him. 

it wont last long but its really really interesting to see how much vitriolic trash has been coming out of those russian data centers.



I see lots of anecdontal evidence and nothing real.

3 Yandex data centers that all are likely backed up, must really have had a lot of traffic. Everybody and their brother has a story about bot traffic and this outage.

The only data point I saw was Yandex http requests dropping. Consider there are thousands of data centers and Yandex isn't even the only host in Russia, this is starting to feel very western propoganda-ish to me.

There is a copy pasta repost about /r/conservative mods and somebody's "research" that is making the rounds on reddit. It seems to be fake and or bad science. There are many news articles, again, the only data point is http requests.

This link is heavily updooted on Reddit currently. Let's walk through it.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/what-is-yandex-ukraine-strike-russia-data-centres-410510/

Quote:
According to tech experts monitoring the situation, the strikes have successfully taken online services down, leaving large swathes of Russian citizens unable to use banking apps, complete transactions, or even book a taxi online. However, there’s another interesting by-product from this coordinated action.



Oh, interesting. Services are down, people can't access their accounts and do normal day to day stuff.

Quote:
As per the bot analysts at Tom’s Hardware, bot traffic from the Yandex network has dropped to just 0.4% of the maximum number of HTTP requests recorded in the past two weeks. That means activity from automated, Russian-hosted accounts has been virtually eliminated on social media.



Traffic is decreased drastically. We know a data center is down. "Russian-host accounts have been virtually eliminated" - no source supplied.

Quote:
These developments come at a crucial point. Russia has ramped up its attacks against Ukrainian infrastructure in recent weeks, targeting power plants as recently as this weekend. Donald Trump has also seemingly swung towards a pro-Moscow position, after brokering a diesel deal with Vladimir Putin.



This is good for the war. Keep supporting it. Trump sucks, fuck that guy, we can all get behind that. So support this war.

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Quote:
‘It is clear where these bots were coming from’ – Zelensky



In this specific case, there's no real data to support Zelensky's claim though, and he has plenty of reason to want to rally support. Tweets with proof don't really count anymore, and those that want to believe this are also the ones that hate Twitter and Elon the most. Odd juxtaposition as the article uses Tweets as proof with no verification. The entire article hinges on two people tweeting and one quote from Zelensky. The comments pile on thanking Ukraine for fighting this war. This is true on Reddit and on Twitter.

Western propaganda at its finest. Maybe some real data will come out, until then I am not jumping on board. It's just not how data centers are managed, and the lack of real proof showing Russian related traffic is difficult as we know this data would be private anyways.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Really begs the question of how many bots meta allows..







I look forward to some real analysis of this data. I don't really trust that 3 data centers were responsible for the majority of Russian disinformation.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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The one that will sell this for me is some Truth Social data. Crawl pre and post data center comments and see how the tone has changed.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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We know who some of the shills are.

Whether they were simply misled and or also deluded into what essentially amounts to doing the bidding of another nation to harm the US by way of amplifying what, in reality, is obviously one of the most idiotic, nonsensical, and morally bankrupt, corrupt old fool in the highest office a human being can take hold of in the world.  I think its time for a couple of changes.  Lest things become real nasty.  The powerful may think they've a way to keep things that all self-enlightened/educated/traveled/experienced good humans want. Like Universal Governance with respect to Healthcare, Housing, Jobs, Education, Life 'Essentials & Basics' - i.e., A truly decent and just human civilization on Earth.

It really is that simple. 

Whomever Whatever noise attempts to cry otherwise or seduce silently for anything else other than the genuine legacy of what all human beings in their right mind want in this life and for their friends and families - considering we're all technically, literally all relatives and whatnot - that noise maker, whatever, whomever they are. They need to be seen through for what they are and how what's working them from behind and through their surroundings has become so as such as it is that they're even able to do so despite the high quality of knowledge, wisdom, and a shared sense of unitivity with nature, Earth, People..you name it. I.e., All the things we know and love, need to be seen for exactly what it is and what that it in fact isn't. History has played out for quite some time now. Not a long time for Humans, but enough time to know better. Post Industrial, we're in the Informational age, the system is naturally Transinformational. Meaning that that is how things change Minds via sensory-media through the devices we use in our daily lives.  Never the less, the chaotic and random - stupidly transparent and obvious lies that even a baby could discern - Needs to be configured well so that we don't have so many people freaking out - like a whole party of people led to madness and the ensuing disorder of it due to how things are transmitted so rapidly nowadays. It should be noted there is no guarantee that Humanity can't adapt the work and itself to work together fairly.  Never know if we don't try.  And that's all that's worth fighting for. A good life for all.

(vs...)

AI/Bots
Noise.
Backwardness.
Shills, thirlls.
Propoganda
Just pure nonsenseL
Confusion.
Ignorance.
The accrual & the division of resources routed foolishly to stupid people who can't figure out how to let human beings just be chill and live life well without guarding against imaginary enemies cause there is none. Its just us.

Why carry on with the same system which eradicates a good life?  That causes harm, that abuses resources, that inverts goodness as if it opposes evils, and simply sits back & rakes it all in - more than they can eat in 100 lifetimes.  And yet 'there isn't enough for healthcare, housing, and education'.
'immigratns are the problem'
' the muslims are the problem'
' the jews are the problem'
'the christians are the problem'
'the bankers are the problem'
'the militaries are the problem'.

...
..
.

I think the problem is obvious nowadays.

There is none. 


At least there doesn't have to be the ones we still have today in the USA ~ supposed superpower that our ancestors died for to found and develop into what its become nowadays as a degenerated rouge state of cancer on the earth eating away at itself, its people, and is in league with those who are all little shits.

So there are some issues. Not problems per se.  Just some shit that needs to finally be done with and then managed properly.  We're in the waiting period some think - all the while everything is still changing the whole entire time - and that's quite sad.  That's all...


How can that list possibly stack up to a world that's actually worth living in and working for & working towards?


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