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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Seuss]
    #9901320 - 03/03/09 01:07 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This is pretty silly by now. WTF is going on here?


Maybe if Obama and this country wasn't so gung ho on spending shitloads of money and taxing people to all hell it wouldn't be as ironic, but wtf?  I respect wesley snipes more than these guys...


So can the president not look at income tax returns or something?  How does this shit keep happening?  Even if the executive somehow is barred from looking at his own agencies data I don't see how he doesn't ask these guys about their situation with the government....


Agree with Seuss though, if it appears this guy is getting anything more than average treatment something is rotten.  I wish these guys would man up and say they tried to get out of shit rather than their inevitable reflexive appologies.  At least if they threw in some greed I could believe it


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: johnm214]
    #9901707 - 03/03/09 03:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

> WTF is going on here?

The cynical side of me believes that Obama thought that his momentum would prevent these little tax problems from being challenged.  They really cynical side of me believes that Obama didn't realize that Chicago style political corruption doesn't work (as well) at the federal level.  With what has been characterized as the most invasive vetting process of any president ever, with 60 pages of questions, I cannot imagine that Obama and his vetting team have been unaware of the problems before nominating their picks.  If he really has been blindsided, then what kind of buffoon (Hi Al!) have we elected and how can we have any faith in his decision making abilities?

(For the Holy Racist Al Sharpton, 1st definition from Webster: Buffoon: a ludicrous figure)


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Seuss]
    #9901937 - 03/03/09 07:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Another great pick by Obama.

http://us.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/02/obama.kirk.taxes/index.html:
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Former Dallas, Texas, Mayor Ron Kirk, who is President Obama's nominee to be the U.S. trade representative, owes nearly $10,000 in taxes. He's the fourth Obama pick that has come under fire for tax issues.




What I find really annoying...

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Kirk has agreed to pay the $9,975 he owes from amended returns, according to the report.




If any of us don't pay our taxes, even if they are "a few minor issues", we get hit hard with penalties such as fines and interest.  Why are all of these politicians getting off with simply paying what they owed?


 

Great question. Back to the 200th person Obama has picked that owes taxes.

You would think that after the first choice coming up owing taxes, that either himself or someone in his camp would be more thorough in their background checking. Good grief! I'm sure most of you know that i'm a Democrat, but Obama's really starting to freak me out with his poor decisions. Very, very poor decisions. They're almost unbelievable.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Seuss]
    #9902260 - 03/03/09 09:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This isn't just some minor dispute although the amounts are minor.  The guy failed to disclose income from speeches, wrote off sport event tickets and inflatable the value of donations.  Cheesy lowbrow crap.

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The committee said the taxes arise from Kirk's handling of speaking fees he donated to a scholarship fund that he set up at his alma mater, and for his deduction of the full cost of season tickets to the Dallas Mavericks professional basketball team.
 
Kirk also agreed to make changes in his accounting of charitable deductions, including reducing the claimed value of a donated television from $3,000 to $1,500.




This stuff is bottom of the pile evasion.  Nothing fancy or interpretable about it.  Common tax cheat.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9902277 - 03/03/09 09:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

"Cheesy lowbrow crap."

That it is.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9903276 - 03/03/09 12:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Obama is in the pocket of crooks, thieves and fraudsters just like the rest of them.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Fjorgynn]
    #9903337 - 03/03/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sad but true. I, at one time thought there was a real difference between the reps and dems. I was so fucking wrong. I think they are all what you just said.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Icelander]
    #9903469 - 03/03/09 01:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I can't figure out if your inability to discern a difference is due to your inability to see the details or the sensory loss due to the overwhelming explosion of light the current particle/antiparticle annihilation is emitting.  What otherwordly perspective would one have to have to view the two parties as the same?  Somewhere from the Virgo Cluster, I'm sure.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9904092 - 03/03/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

A crook is a crook is a crook. :shrug:

I certainly wish I wasn't from your planet. Not that I have anything against the planet itself.

Check out the movie "The Man Who Fell To Earth" It's a great old flick with David Bowie. You're old enough to remember him.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Icelander]
    #9904119 - 03/03/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I loved that movie.  I saw it in the theater when it came out.  I never forgot those contact lenses.

A crook is a crook, huh?  I beg to differ.  I can make a distinction between one who takes everything and one who takes half.  A big distinction.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9904194 - 03/03/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Nobody ever took all of what I had. I seemed to get screwed equally no matter which party was in power. I'm 56 and so have had awhile to watch. No, I think they're all dysfunctional and crooked. They may go about it in different ways. It's not all about money to me either. I think the fundamentalist influenced republicans have worked hard to take away a few of my "freedoms".  Nope they're all trash to me.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Icelander]
    #9904225 - 03/03/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well who'da thunk it, I'm the wide-eyed optimist between us.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9904288 - 03/03/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Actually I think you're insane.:shrug: But in an normal way.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Icelander]
    #9904304 - 03/03/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10082152 - 03/31/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Sebelius Explains Errors, Pays $7,000 in Back Taxes

Here's yet another one. How many is this?


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #10082799 - 03/31/09 07:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I can't figure out if your inability to discern a difference is due to your inability to see the details or the sensory loss due to the overwhelming explosion of light the current particle/antiparticle annihilation is emitting.  What otherwordly perspective would one have to have to view the two parties as the same?  Somewhere from the Virgo Cluster, I'm sure.




Either that, or you're just blinded by partisanship.

One or the other.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #10082815 - 03/31/09 07:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Yet another dashed hope.



:lol: Oh boy. Poor Obama can't catch a break.

On the other hand, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a politician from either party that doesn't have the stench of scandals and pandering to special interests on them. It seems to come with the territory these days.




GOP politicians don't have TIME for tax evasion.  They're too busy cramming themselves into airport bathroom stalls with tap dancing shoes on, and handing their dying wives divorce papers in the hospice.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #10082832 - 03/31/09 07:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Capitalism vs Socialism vs Communism

[1] The differences between capitalism vs socialism vs communism may be summarized as follows:

Capitalism is an informal economic system in which property is largely privately owned, and in which profit provides incentive for capital investment and the employment of labor.

Socialism is a formal economic system in which society exerts considerable control over the nation's wealth and property in the pursuit of social justice.

Communism is a formal economic system in which property, particularly capital property (e.g. factories, machines, tools, etc.), is commonly owned and scarce resources are allocated through planning as opposed to price signals in a free market.

[2] The three economic systems have the following characteristics:

Capitalism Socialism Communism





http://www.conservative-resources.com/capitalism-vs-socialism-vs-communism.html




Blarg.  "Conservative resources", nice source.

It's actually very simple.  "Socialism" is going to Canada for a while.  "Communism" is going to the Department of Motor Vehicles for the rest of your life.


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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: TGRR]
    #10083044 - 03/31/09 07:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Does it ever end?

Obama's health nominee Sebelius reveals tax errors:
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Kathleen Sebelius, named as U.S. health secretary by President Barack Obama, became his latest nominee to reveal income tax issues, saying on Tuesday she paid nearly $8,000 to settle errors over three years.

Sebelius, the governor of Kansas, must pass a confirmation process in Congress before she can lead Obama's overhaul of the $2.5 trillion U.S. healthcare sector to cut costs and provide coverage to an estimated 46 million uninsured Americans.

"Unintentional errors" involving charitable contributions, mortgage interest and business expenses were revealed in a review of her and her husband's tax returns by a certified accountant, prompting them to file amended returns, Sebelius wrote to top members of the Senate Finance Committee.

"As a result of these amendments to our 2005, 2006 and 2007 returns, we paid a total of $7,040 in additional tax and $878 in interest," she said in the letter to Max Baucus, the Democratic head of the committee, and Charles Grassley, its ranking Republican.

Before Sebelius, Obama's first choice as health secretary -- former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle -- withdrew after he acknowledged he delayed payment of some $140,000 in taxes and fines.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's nomination was criticized for late payment of $34,000 in taxes but he was eventually confirmed.

Baucus said he supported the nomination of Sebelius, who is due to testify to his committee on Thursday.

"Congress is going to need a strong partner at the Department of Health and Human Services to achieve comprehensive health reform this year, and we have that partner in Governor Sebelius," Baucus said in a statement.

A spokeswoman for Grassley said the senator "generally reserves judgment on nominees until the vetting process, including the nomination hearing, is completed."




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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Seuss]
    #10083459 - 03/31/09 08:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Does it ever end?





On the plus side, most of the tax cheats are sent home.

With the exception of Aunty Geitner, of course.


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