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Yeah it's ridiculous how Russia is taking advantage of the situation.
They say they will do A, then proceed to do B, and blame party X for doing B.. And then even get away with it. Multiple times. Not so friendly but you gotta admit they are a smart bunch.
Now that Kiev has been granting some of their opponent's wishes, i just hope they calm down after Easter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-paul/forget-the-spin-putin-is_b_5183691.html
According to the Sunday Times, Barack Obama has had it with trying to build a partnership with Vladimir Putin. Like George W. Bush before him, Barack Obama has finally written off Vladimir Putin. There will be no reset of relations. Instead, his administration's focus will be "cutting off [Russia's] economic and political ties to the outside world, limiting its expansionist ambitions in its own neighborhood and effectively making it a pariah state."
In the same story, Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, expresses his disgust. "They're playing us. We continue to watch what they're doing and try to respond to that. But it seems that in doing so, we create a policy that's always a day late and a dollar short."
To a degree unmatched since the early days of the Global War on Terror, American pundits and politicians have been marching in lockstep in response to Vladimir Putin's seizure of Crimea and continuing threats to Ukraine.
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Despite the talk of partnership, the fact is that the United States has consistently pursued aggressive and hostile policies designed to contain Russia, and -- if Brzezinski has his way -- ultimately see Russia broken up into a confederation of smaller states. Yet, by and large, the American media has bought into the dominant narrative, and ignored the deeper strategy at play. America's core strategy remains intact, and from the Brzezinski perspective everything is on track. Vladimir Putin has not been the master strategist of the media's imagination, the puppetmaster who has outfoxed American at every turn. Instead, he has long been caught in a trap, his actions manipulated in a game of power and strategy that goes back decades and in which he is playing a role, not writing the script.
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Bridgeburner
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 Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests  [Re: Bridgeburner]
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I have heard this from the Russian side, how they blame America for humiliating them, undermining their politics etc. If this was any other country I wouldn't really support the States but in this case I think United States is doing the right thing. Why? Because Russia does have imperialistic tendencies and it does not respect its neighbours. It wants to dominate. I really hope real democracy will begin in Russia, perhaps through Russia indeed breaking up into smaller states (Republic of Siberia?). Someone on Facebook: The reason the overall strategy of Russia is always failing is that a nation that abuses it's people and neighbours cannot win. Cooperation and civil society is what Russia has turned their back to. It's impossible to thrive under those conditions. I agree and most of Eastern Europe agrees.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Bridgeburner]
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In the meanwhile shit is getting real. Some pro-russian asshats in Donetsk have declared (civil) war and Ukraine has stopped their anti-terror operations.
Looks like things are going to escalate even furter.
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And this is Russia having a "military exercise" near the border:
Just an exercise.... obviously. Its not like they're sending in troops or anything.
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And this is Russia having a "military exercise" near the border:
Just an exercise.... obviously. Its not like they're sending in troops or anything.
Special Ops units are in already. Russia has invaded Ukraine, non-officially. Putin will try to fuck up Ukraine so civil war starts and it can "officially" go in to "save the day".
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Bridgeburner]
#19893067 - 04/24/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Boredstiff its like you just take everything the USA and the globalists do and insert the word "russia" instead.
its like its either mega double speak or psychological projection.
Edited by Shins (04/24/14 01:23 PM)
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Bridgeburner]
#19893077 - 04/24/14 01:17 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Special Ops units are in already. the globalists have invaded Ukraine, non-officially. The globalists will try to fuck up Ukraine so civil war starts and it can "officially" go in to "save the day".
Edited by Shins (04/24/14 01:23 PM)
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Bridgeburner]
#19893096 - 04/24/14 01:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have heard this from the USA side, how they blame Russia for humiliating them, undermining their politics etc. If this was any other country I wouldn't really support Russia but in this case I think is doing the right thing. Why? Because USA, EU and the globalists do have imperialistic tendencies and it does not respect its neighbours. It wants to dominate. I really hope real democracy will begin in the EU and USA, perhaps through the EU indeed breaking up into smaller states (Republic of Siberia?). Someone on Facebook: The reason the overall strategy of the USA and the globalists is always failing is that a nation that abuses it's people and neighbours cannot win. Cooperation and civil society is what the USA and the globalists have turned their back to. It's impossible to thrive under those conditions. I agree and most of the world agrees.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19893119 - 04/24/14 01:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sounds like typical  nonsense to me.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Enlil]
#19893129 - 04/24/14 01:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sounds like typical nonsense to me.
Sounds like typical bootlicker shilling to me
you mentioned nothing about tinfoil when it was russian special ops.
Get a real job you lying shill.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19893168 - 04/24/14 01:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've yet to see you post anything resembling evidence of any of your outlandish claims, but I've seen you post lots of wild theories usually leading to some claim about Israel being responsible. I'm sure you'll get there eventually in this thread, too.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Enlil]
#19893183 - 04/24/14 01:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Unlike you I have a real day job and life so I don't have 8 hours a day to prepare a thesus for you.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19893192 - 04/24/14 01:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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*thesis
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Enlil]
#19893239 - 04/24/14 01:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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*thesis
Good for you, does that make you feel smart? I see right through you.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19893371 - 04/24/14 02:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not smart, really. It's just that you're not the only DS (designated subversive) that I'm assigned to, and you're only a DS3...So I have to focus most of my time and energy on DS5 and DS4 people...Sorry I can't give you more attention, bro.
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19893397 - 04/24/14 02:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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And there it goes again, outlandish conspiracy theories (with nothing to back them), personal attacks, and nothing that adds to the thread. Good job shins.
Oh well. At least the pro-Russians let Simon Ostrovsky (and some other reporters) they took hostage go. Apparently they locked him up after asking some questions:
I wonder what's going to happen the next few days. Let's hope Putin puts his hardon away and stops escalating the situation even furter.
EDIT: a short interview of what Ostrovsky went through:
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/24/russia-orders-bloggers-to-register?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000595
Russia orders bloggers to register with government in attempt to control the internet
looks like they are cracking down on dissent. putin is afraid of losing power... imagine if there was a revolution in russia just like in ukraine!
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Re: Lookin at the Ukraine Protests [Re: Shins]
#19894017 - 04/24/14 04:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
That sounds like typical nonsense to me.
Sounds like typical bootlicker shilling to me
you mentioned nothing about tinfoil when it was russian special ops.
Get a real job you lying shill.
I'm not a shill I think, and what we do is wrong, and what they do is also. What is the end game of it all
mostly, Russia invading Ukraine
If only we maintained the moral high ground our lack of internet let us think we had
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Russia didn't "invade" Ukraine, and they certainly didn't do anything before the globalist EU and Co. And their hired rebel rousers installed their pro - EU junta government.
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