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zappaisgod
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Man Unkind]
#9854755 - 02/24/09 08:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man Unkind said: Basically everything zappaisgod has contributed to this thread has been either retarded by nationalism, a red bait with no logical support, or just plain wrong.
I don't red bait. That would imply that I just write these things to get a rise out of reds. I don't. Reds are too stupid to learn. I do not give a fuck what they think. I do this for the children who are susceptible to the idea of red unicorns and fairies. Children are such trusting souls. I genuinely believe communism and socialism are a pox on humanity and would be best left in the dung heap of failed ideas. Like alchemy.Quote:
Afghanistan and Iraq did not commence hostilities, we did.
Lie. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Afghanistan's proxies attacked NYC and DC on p/11/01. Facts. Imagine how much better things would be if we had had any stones when Iran invaded our territory in 1980. Perhaps the next generation of thugs would not have been so encouraged.Quote:
Monetary aid to Africa is literally nothing when compared to the United States military budget, and most of it ends up in the hands of either warlords or corrupt politicians.
No shit. And yet, they keep putting their hands out and nothing changes. So your answer is to keep doing the same or more of the same? Or would you forcibly remove the kleptocrats? Which would require an increased military budget. Oh woe is you. Looks like you are lose/lose.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9854767 - 02/24/09 08:42 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you know why Iraq invaded Kuwait. Do you know anything of our dealings with sadam at that point, and why things changed? Do you know what the sunni crescent is? Your just repeating what our war mongers have fed to you, and the rest of this nation. Patrotism should never be blind, for that is more treason than anything. Instead, we should challenge our nations own ideals, and force it to better itself...
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9854807 - 02/24/09 08:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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flip3084 said: Do you know why Iraq invaded Kuwait.
For their oil and power in the region. The same reasons were behind everything Saddam did, being the classic megalomaniac that he was. Or perhaps you have another theory. Let me guess, you do have another theory. I bet it is entirely original to you and obtained through your extensive research in the area and personal contacts in the Bilderburg Group and the Trilateral Commission. Boy, I wish I had your sources so that my opinions wouldn't have to be based on common knowledge and well known facts. Then I could feel special. Like you.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9854817 - 02/24/09 08:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The sunni crescent has nothing to do with conspriracy therorists. You are cocky. But you are not changing your opinon, so what is the point.. believe what you will.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9854834 - 02/24/09 09:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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You aren't going to tell me anything I haven't heard already but why don't you enlighten the children here. Consider it your opportunity to teach.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9854886 - 02/24/09 09:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The sunni crescent, had to do with american forces establishing a seperate repersentation of the people(sunnis and shiites) to which represented a large problem, seeing as how the two groups were vastly different in size. This caused alot of blood shed(a hell of a lot more than ususal) and even more resentment towards america. Why no one I have this conversation with has ever heard of these events, I have no idea.. I guess "You control the info, you control the people". Plus, it sounds much better to tell the public, that the reason they want to hurt us, is because of our way of life and our freedoms.. It definitley summons up more support for senseless troop surges, and billons spent on stupidity. Sugar coated shit, is still just shit..
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9854893 - 02/24/09 09:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is one disjointed mess. Do you think you could find us a link to clarify just what the fuck you are trying to say?
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9854916 - 02/24/09 09:21 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.yahyabirt.com/?p=50
Here is a slight reference to such
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9854963 - 02/24/09 09:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I LOLed. A couple of snippets:
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Now there are similar portents of a sanguinary reprise in which the priority will once again be the containment of Iran through a vicious proxy war in Iraq
Seems a bit outdated, no? "written on Thursday, 11 January, 2007". Here's another insane beauty:
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With the execution of Saddam Hussain at the hands of Moqtada al-Sadr’s partisans on the day of Eid al-Adha, he has unimaginably been reinvented as a Sunni martyr
Ummmmm no and no.
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In his speech yesterday, Bush announced an increase in troop numbers, with most of the new troops being committed to take on the Shia militias, although some attention has been given to Sunni militias in Anbar Province. There is no political strategy here, let alone counter-insurgency tactics.
He pretty clearly got that wrong, too. Interesting choice for your first cite. Utterly nonsensical, in fact.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9854981 - 02/24/09 09:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your play on words does nothing to make you seem like an authority on this subject. Only a subjective, overly opinonated majority.. your opinons seem to run with the flock. That just seems so lazy.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9855000 - 02/24/09 09:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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What "play on words"? That was an astonishingly fact shy cite. And he was clearly wrong about a lot of it. So tell us chilluns just what the fuck point you are trying to make in regard to the Sunni crescent. Pleeuhze, enlighten us. We are all eager sponges.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9856119 - 02/24/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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flip3084 said: There are no dictators in true communist or socilist society, therefore the closest thing we have to offer is Sweden.
More Swedish happitude:
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The Davis Cup matches between Sweden and Israel will be played without spectators in Malmo next month after an attempt to move the venue to Stockholm fell through.
Swedish organizers Tuesday cited security concerns for the closed-door policy because anti-Israeli demonstrations are expected during the best-of-five series March 6-8.
A nation of cowards. Go along to get along pussies. Always has been.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9856141 - 02/24/09 01:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh please. That's all you can produce to show that Sweden is an inferior country just because it has adopted elements of socialism? Anti-Israel demonstrations?
Let's conveniently gloss over the fact that they, along with several other Western European countries are doing much better than the US on many fronts. I also like how none of the the free market zealots here responded to my post that debunked the American Dream myth.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
#9856198 - 02/24/09 01:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9856220 - 02/24/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zapp, you gone trolling again?
As long as we're discussing completely irrelevant historical facts in a half-assed attempt to discredit countries for lame things they've done in their past here ya go: http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/japan_internment_camps.htm
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
#9856237 - 02/24/09 01:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah. It's awful what socialists will due under stress, isn't it?
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9856282 - 02/24/09 01:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get this thread back on track - Obama's corrupt cabinet picks - or see it locked. Enough about Sweden already.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: flip3084]
#9856996 - 02/24/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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flip3084 said: Do you know why Iraq invaded Kuwait. Do you know anything of our dealings with sadam at that point, and why things changed? Do you know what the sunni crescent is? Your just repeating what our war mongers have fed to you, and the rest of this nation. Patrotism should never be blind, for that is more treason than anything. Instead, we should challenge our nations own ideals, and force it to better itself...
THis is arrogant and silly.
For no reason you identify you jjust presume zappa is ignorant and quizz him on shit rather than making any point whatsoever. He responsded to assertions that incorrectly stated iraq didn't begin agressions.
Seems like you read a few paragraphs on the history of our involvement in the region and now you're an expert. Why would you presume people wouldn't know the history of this area and our involvement in it? It just seems brash arrogance.
You're suggesting "you're ignorant if you don't think like me" without even dressing it up. Given you've refrenced nothing not insanely covered and popularized by even the popular press (newsweek, time, et cet) your inferences to intellectual superiority seems poorly justified.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#9857061 - 02/24/09 03:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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flip3084 said: There are no dictators in true communist or socilist society, therefore the closest thing we have to offer is Sweden.
More Swedish happitude:
It's also a no true scotsman fallacy so obvious as to be embarresed by.
The commies are forever saying "well that wasn't a socialist country..." or similar things when the examples all depart from their predictions of social harmony and respect for rights.
If you define socilist or communist country to exclude those you don't like you change teh meaning of teh word to soemthing that has nothing to do wtih the economic model you advance and allow equivocating like in the above example.
This is so plain as to be embarasing to read. The commie defenders also like to use words like "communist country" different from the public accepted use and yet not forewarn anyone to the bait and switch untill they are cornered and forced to equivocate. (i.e. USSR wasn't communist, cuz....) et cet Just equivocations and fallacies all around.
EDIT: Sorry phred didn't see the comment. Delete if you want I guess.
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Re: Obama's Cabinet Of Corruption (Do Democrats EVER Pay Taxes?) [Re: johnm214]
#9858015 - 02/24/09 06:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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John there is no conscious effort to define socialism in a way that excludes undesirable countries. The definition of the word is fixed, taking that into consideration, when you look back into history, you realize that most of the countries that have proclaimed themselves as socialist weren't socialist at all.
Often you will find that the cause of socialism is used as a front for power grubbing dictators, such is the case with Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.
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