NotImlay said:

Pan bispo - “WA”. Substrate is a bit nutrient poor. Just pasteurized coir and straw… pretty sad flush but I think I’ll have enough for an experience. I’ve wanted to try bispo’s for a long time.

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isn’t a magic view 🫠

Noah Keeper said:

If it's a box without artificial ventilation, air exchange happens naturally. No species aborts just because you mist it with a sprayer. Those problems are usually caused by the airflow created by artificial ventilation—most mushrooms simply don't like constant moving air.

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Not exactly sure why you quoted me, but without AIR, and a saturated casing to draw surface level humidity from in a passive tub style, they won't get that look I'm after.  Caps get cracked in the wild from high air and do just fine, not sure what you are getting at, or trying to convey.  All good, do what works for you and your environment, we all have to dial in, unless you have a fogger then it's a different ballgame. 

Example below of high open air fruits growing in 25% humidity currently, without me drenching the compost pile thoroughly, they would abort very quickly, evaporation at the surface level is much more important in my experience.  If you put yourself in the mushroom's shoes, or think what happens in nature naturally, heavy rains flood the area, it stops raining, surface level evap happens, BOOM... Disco! 

I enjoy the outdoor cap scars!








A few caps cutting teeth, a beautiful site to see!

Anomalocaris said:

Ms tree frog could I see what fogger you use for your dreamer please?

Also couple question about seed heating pads. Ill have 2 at the bottom of my dreamer (the trays will be elevated with racks)  with an inkbird temp controller.
They should be outside the tub? And how hot do they get, can they melt the plastic do I have to put a towel over them.

I will also add a thin layer of perlite at the bottom of my dreamer and there will be a fan lower to circulate the hot air.

And for the temp controller sensor where is the best spot I should put it. At tray lip level or higher?

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I don't have a traditional dreamer setup.  It's one AC Infiniti warm mist fogger that splits into two tubs.





There is also an aquarium heater in the tub the fogger runs into, but I'm not currently running it because it's Summer here.  Likewise I'm not curtently running warm mist (the fogger has the option for both).

A towel will help the seed mats distribute heat more evenly.  But it shouldn't melt the plastic.  And no I wouldn't put it inside of the tub because it can dry the substrate out too much.

I also have a combination temp/rH sensor, so I put mine closer to the top of the tub.  Also my seed mats are on top of the tub.  When I was running them on the bottom with perlite and no fogger, I put the sensor closer to the bottom so the substrates didn't dry out.  That will also create a lot of humidity by the way, making the need for a fogger much less (unless you want to use it to water casings).

Anyway, for a regular dreamer the small cool mist foggers work well.  And my setup is more than is really needed.  But it does give a lot of options for dialing in a setup as the seasons change.

Anomalocaris said:

Do you guys think pans grown in monotubs that didnt have their high fae requirement and look a bit unhappy of being there are less potent than awesome happy lookin fruits?

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Nah, they blast you just the same.

tree frog said:

Anomalocaris said:

Ms tree frog could I see what fogger you use for your dreamer please?

Also couple question about seed heating pads. Ill have 2 at the bottom of my dreamer (the trays will be elevated with racks)  with an inkbird temp controller.
They should be outside the tub? And how hot do they get, can they melt the plastic do I have to put a towel over them.

I will also add a thin layer of perlite at the bottom of my dreamer and there will be a fan lower to circulate the hot air.

And for the temp controller sensor where is the best spot I should put it. At tray lip level or higher?

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I don't have a traditional dreamer setup.  It's one AC Infiniti warm mist fogger that splits into two tubs.





There is also an aquarium heater in the tub the fogger runs into, but I'm not currently running it because it's Summer here.  Likewise I'm not curtently running warm mist (the fogger has the option for both).

A towel will help the seed mats distribute heat more evenly.  But it shouldn't melt the plastic.  And no I wouldn't put it inside of the tub because it can dry the substrate out too much.

I also have a combination temp/rH sensor, so I put mine closer to the top of the tub.  Also my seed mats are on top of the tub.  When I was running them on the bottom with perlite and no fogger, I put the sensor closer to the bottom so the substrates didn't dry out.  That will also create a lot of humidity by the way, making the need for a fogger much less (unless you want to use it to water casings).

Anyway, for a regular dreamer the small cool mist foggers work well.  And my setup is more than is really needed.  But it does give a lot of options for dialing in a setup as the seasons change.

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